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  • PoeticG PoeticGP Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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    Football is football. 

    Football is not basketball. 

    Boxing is not basketball... so, imagine if they did to boxing what they are trying to do to football... it would not be boxing, it would be dancing. 

    Football is violent, football is sometimes nasty- despite what you've heard, football is not for everybody. It's natural to want to protect the player's health, but if you're going to call it football- you actually need to play football. I can't watch subjective penalties or whatnot being called on a whim. Penalties must have the ability to be challenged by a coach if they are going to impact a game in the magnitude that they are. It's too easy for refs to fix games or at least give off the vibe that they could be fixing the games to help Vegas lines.

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      Wow this is going to suck.  One of eight plays seems like a penalty during this preseason game.

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      @lbc-mike said:

      Wow this is going to suck.  One of eight plays seems like a penalty during this preseason game.

      After Shazier damn near paralyzed himself- they had to do something. 

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        I think its a bad rule.. Now you have to call it flag football.. This is gonna slow the game down to a crawl in reg season games..... Pete Rozelle must be in his grave laughing his A$$ off... Especially at "God'Dell

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          Wow this is going to suck.  One of eight plays seems like a penalty during this preseason game.

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          @lbc-mike said:

          Wow this is going to suck.  One of eight plays seems like a penalty during this preseason game.

          The zebras are always instructed to over call any new rules so the league can get their point across. They usually back off a bit a few games in. But they especially do that during the preseason games so players who play on the borderline get punished often enough that it starts to sink in. Expect a few to actually get tossed when it's over the borderline.

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            jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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            Great points Texas. We fans are going to have to live with the two-sided effects of this rule. The aggravation of the penalties (that will ALWAYS come on 3rd and long against us, lol) and the hopeful reduction in damaging head injuries. But honestly, I think the NFL will have to implement a replay system for these calls. A bang-bang call by the ref shouldn't change the game, and these calls are definitely going to affect the outcome. 

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              LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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              I saw a players helmet touch another players arm and it was called.   

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                DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                Pussies:

                Football Players Red Grange and Earl Britton, 1925.

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                • LBC mikeL LBC mike

                  I saw a players helmet touch another players arm and it was called.   

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                  @lbc-mike said:

                  I saw a players helmet touch another players arm and it was called.   

                  Early in the game? Yeah I think i saw the same play and the key was he moved his helmet in purposefully but just barely grazed the other guy's. I think that was one of those "we will enforce it" kind of calls that will get ignored later in the season.

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                    Pussies:

                    Football Players Red Grange and Earl Britton, 1925.

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                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                    Pussies:

                    Football Players Red Grange and Earl Britton, 1925.

                    Yeah look at how high that sissy  wears his pants.?

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                      PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by PoeticG
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                      Your head is in between both of your shoulders that you've been taught to hit with... what the Shmuck are you supposed to do? If a ball carrier dives through a hole, if I'm a defender I'm making his helmet hit me and calling foul- it's a 15 yard penalty and loss of down... this may be the straw that breaks the camels back. Football is dead.

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                        Your head is in between both of your shoulders that you've been taught to hit with... what the Shmuck are you supposed to do? If a ball carrier dives through a hole, if I'm a defender I'm making his helmet hit me and calling foul- it's a 15 yard penalty and loss of down... this may be the straw that breaks the camels back. Football is dead.

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                        Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                        @poeticg said:

                        Your head is in between both of your shoulders that you've been taught to hit with... what the Shmuck are you supposed to do? If a ball carrier dives through a hole, if I'm a defender I'm making his helmet hit me and calling foul- it's a 15 yard penalty and loss of down... this may be the straw that breaks the camels back. Football is dead.

                        So let me get this straight...

                        You can see red flags regarding the NFL's future, but are completely unable to see that Josh Gordon will never consistently help the Browns or that Kevin Hogan is considered at best a backup QB... Interesting. 

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                          gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                          have ya seen this? https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/Fact-Sheet---Use-of-the-Helmet.aspx  how does a position coach, even coach this nonsense.. Somewhere Earl Campbell is laughing. Head on a swivel? hell put them in Ninja Turtle Suits with descending Necks..  

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                            Wow this is going to suck.  One of eight plays seems like a penalty during this preseason game.

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                            @lbc-mike said:

                            Wow this is going to suck.  One of eight plays seems like a penalty during this preseason game.

                            It wont last.

                            Last season they were buckling down early in the season and eventually stopped throwing so many flags.

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                              Wow this is going to suck.  One of eight plays seems like a penalty during this preseason game.

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                              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                              @lbc-mike said:

                              Wow this is going to suck.  One of eight plays seems like a penalty during this preseason game.

                              That's why there is a pre-season. The rule was needed... it just a James Harrison too late.

                              Will be called very tightly and then "refined' thru the season. The one HOF game hit at the goal had to be more "defenseless WR"...and was a bad call on that count IMO.

                              Someday soon the helmets will be wired to determine the degree to which it delivered the force of the hit. Until then there will have to be replay reviews as there is in College.

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                                @lbc-mike said:

                                Wow this is going to suck.  One of eight plays seems like a penalty during this preseason game.

                                That's why there is a pre-season. The rule was needed... it just a James Harrison too late.

                                Will be called very tightly and then "refined' thru the season. The one HOF game hit at the goal had to be more "defenseless WR"...and was a bad call on that count IMO.

                                Someday soon the helmets will be wired to determine the degree to which it delivered the force of the hit. Until then there will have to be replay reviews as there is in College.

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                                @tour2ma said:

                                That's why there is a pre-season. The rule was needed... it just a James Harrison too late.

                                Will be called very tightly and then "refined' thru the season. The one HOF game hit at the goal had to be more "defenseless WR"...and was a bad call on that count IMO.

                                Someday soon the helmets will be wired to determine the degree to which it delivered the force of the hit. Until then there will have to be replay reviews as there is in College.

                                And helmet cams built in with the impact detector. Easy peasy.

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                                  DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                  Maybe a cookie and milk dispensor on the sidelines if they need a timeout.

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                                    Maybe a cookie and milk dispensor on the sidelines if they need a timeout.

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                                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                    Maybe a cookie and milk dispensor on the sidelines if they need a timeout.

                                    After Huey abused the timeouts last year, they were abolished for the Browns to prevent further embarrassment.?

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                                      this is going to be a disastrous season for football. This new rule is insane. Ill admit i didnt follow this much during the offseason, i wanted a break from football period after 1-32 fir 2 seasons. Seeing this now, i dont know how football survives. 

                                      The ease with which the passing game can commence now is just stupid. 

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                                        this is going to be a disastrous season for football. This new rule is insane. Ill admit i didnt follow this much during the offseason, i wanted a break from football period after 1-32 fir 2 seasons. Seeing this now, i dont know how football survives. 

                                        The ease with which the passing game can commence now is just stupid. 

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                                        @clevfan4life said:

                                        this is going to be a disastrous season for football. This new rule is insane. Ill admit i didnt follow this much during the offseason, i wanted a break from football period after 1-32 fir 2 seasons. Seeing this now, i dont know how football survives. 

                                        The ease with which the passing game can commence now is just stupid. 

                                        Not good timing if that happens. 

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                                          @lbc-mike said:

                                          Wow this is going to suck.  One of eight plays seems like a penalty during this preseason game.

                                          It wont last.

                                          Last season they were buckling down early in the season and eventually stopped throwing so many flags.

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                                          @boo-fagley said:

                                          It wont last.

                                          When the cat got out of the bag (concussions are VERY bad for you....and football players get them A LOT) there was no putting it back in the bag.

                                          The NFL gets it's primary resource (human resource) from children growing up playing football.  Once parents understood (the cat out of the bag) then the NFL had NO CHOICE but to try and make the game less dangerous.  Especially with respect to the brain.  I'm not even sure that the NFL will be able to DO enough to keep overall society content.  

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