Josh Gordon Tweets He Will Not Be At Training Camp This Week
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Dors hee hee is still saying, "he'll be here"..not much more but this https://www.brownszone.com/2018/08/04/rashard-higgins-says-teammate-josh-gordon-in-good-spirits-will-be-ready-to-go-when-returns/ am more concerned about the timeframe to meet with A)On My own sweet time Roger.. B)What's Rogers re-re-instatement plan requires? C)Did Gordon fail his last reinstatement plan on Rogers paper? I'd get things moving well before Sept. 4th when HBO cameras are leaving ..
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tick-TOck.. https://www.brownszone.com/2018/08/05/if-josh-gordon-doesnt-report-by-tuesday-he-wont-be-eligible-for-free-agency-until-after-2019/ thought we owned his exclusive rights through 2018 anyhow? now here comes 2019 also?..it's truly became a reading like laser to my eyeballs year after year
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Long story short, Josh has to report to the team by Tuesday or else Browns possess his rights for the 2019 season with his current miniscule (comparatively) salary of around $1 million per year. If he does report, he'd be eligible for free agency, which could land him a small fortune. Yes, he'd have to be on the straight and narrow all year, something he hasn't been able to do, and yes, any contract would be insanely worded to include protective language against a suspension, but if Josh balls out this year SOMEONE will pay him.
Regardless of how Josh is doing with his recovery, he almost HAS to show up Tuesday. He's less than a year away from being able to sign a contract, and regardless of his demons, he'll still be in shape for a signing bonus that will eclipse his entire NFL earnings. He's on his way, boys.
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Zombo said:
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/07/jimmy_haslam_josh_gordon.html
Ok, so he's working out, which is excellent. I think it's safe to assume that we don't have all the facts, and we need to understand that we're probably never GOING to have them. My best guess is that the truth is somewhere in the middle of "catastrophe" and "no big deal". SOMETHING happened, but if it were something like a legit failed drug test, Josh would have already been suspended, and we'd all be hearing about how he's going to file an appeal, and how he has no idea what happened, and it must've been something he ate that the trainer gave him. But we didn't hear any of that. In fact, the NFL specifically said that Gordon is NOT suspended. Many have speculated that Gordon used while away from Cleveland, and he went back to rehab as a way to shield against testing positive. That's definitely a possibility, but I don't think that's the case. For one thing, I don't believe Josh would've tweeted out that positive message about feeling great mentally and physically. If he used, the message wouldn't come off THAT positive. There would've been SOME modicum of defeat or failure, even if it was ever so slight. Yeah, I know he uses publicists and has people write his stuff for him, but something tells me we would've known if he truly fell all the way off the wagon.
The PROBLEM is, we've all heard this before, many times. Every time a player gets in trouble for a substance, they seem to say the same denial. Josh hasn't even issued a denial, mainly because he isn't being accused of anything. There's a very real chance he's actually doing what he SAYS he's doing, and if it's part of his health, the Browns literally can't comment on it. Not at all. For all we know, the Browns, the medical director, and Josh Gordon had this planned for months. Right before the season starts, let's get one last "shot" of intense therapy in, so he's as prepared for the season as possible. If you look at Josh as a long term investment, it kind of makes sense. Is it better to have him miss some training camp in order to increase his chances of success, or should you hope he's ok and have him at camp early?
Josh will be back in camp sometime in the next two weeks, probably after the first preseason game. That game is always a crap-fest anyway, and I'm thinking that's the time we get him back. That would be about a month of separation for him, and presumably a month of treatment. If we don't get Josh back in this time-frame, I don't think we'll ever get him back.
Ok, so he's working out, which is excellent. I think it's safe to assume that we don't have all the facts, and we need to understand that we're probably never GOING to have them. My best guess is that the truth is somewhere in the middle of "catastrophe" and "no big deal". SOMETHING happened, but if it were something like a legit failed drug test, Josh would have already been suspended, and we'd all be hearing about how he's going to file an appeal, and how he has no idea what happened, and it must've been something he ate that the trainer gave him. But we didn't hear any of that. In fact, the NFL specifically said that Gordon is NOT suspended. Many have speculated that Gordon used while away from Cleveland, and he went back to rehab as a way to shield against testing positive. That's definitely a possibility, but I don't think that's the case. For one thing, I don't believe Josh would've tweeted out that positive message about feeling great mentally and physically. If he used, the message wouldn't come off THAT positive. There would've been SOME modicum of defeat or failure, even if it was ever so slight. Yeah, I know he uses publicists and has people write his stuff for him, but something tells me we would've known if he truly fell all the way off the wagon.
The PROBLEM is, we've all heard this before, many times. Every time a player gets in trouble for a substance, they seem to say the same denial. Josh hasn't even issued a denial, mainly because he isn't being accused of anything. There's a very real chance he's actually doing what he SAYS he's doing, and if it's part of his health, the Browns literally can't comment on it. Not at all. For all we know, the Browns, the medical director, and Josh Gordon had this planned for months. Right before the season starts, let's get one last "shot" of intense therapy in, so he's as prepared for the season as possible. If you look at Josh as a long term investment, it kind of makes sense. Is it better to have him miss some training camp in order to increase his chances of success, or should you hope he's ok and have him at camp early?
Josh will be back in camp sometime in the next two weeks, probably after the first preseason game. That game is always a crap-fest anyway, and I'm thinking that's the time we get him back. That would be about a month of separation for him, and presumably a month of treatment. If we don't get Josh back in this time-frame, I don't think we'll ever get him back.
Appreciate the post. We can go stir crazy with all the scenarios. When I was reading some of your thoughts all I could think of were the lyrics "What if God was one of us?" For starters, we wouldn't be needing to get the sour taste of 1-31 football out of our mouth.
My guess is if Gordon didn't have plans to come back after the Hard Knocks Media Microscope - he wouldn't be training in the heat of Florida right now. There wouldn't be any need to just yet - especially if he was at least 2 months away from rejoining the team.
We shall see...
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tick-TOck.. https://www.brownszone.com/2018/08/05/if-josh-gordon-doesnt-report-by-tuesday-he-wont-be-eligible-for-free-agency-until-after-2019/ thought we owned his exclusive rights through 2018 anyhow? now here comes 2019 also?..it's truly became a reading like laser to my eyeballs year after year
tick-TOck.. https://www.brownszone.com/2018/08/05/if-josh-gordon-doesnt-report-by-tuesday-he-wont-be-eligible-for-free-agency-until-after-2019/ thought we owned his exclusive rights through 2018 anyhow? now here comes 2019 also?..it's truly became a reading like laser to my eyeballs year after year
Browns said they will not hold him to that deadline
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tick-TOck.. https://www.brownszone.com/2018/08/05/if-josh-gordon-doesnt-report-by-tuesday-he-wont-be-eligible-for-free-agency-until-after-2019/ thought we owned his exclusive rights through 2018 anyhow? now here comes 2019 also?..it's truly became a reading like laser to my eyeballs year after year
Browns said they will not hold him to that deadline
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tick-TOck.. https://www.brownszone.com/2018/08/05/if-josh-gordon-doesnt-report-by-tuesday-he-wont-be-eligible-for-free-agency-until-after-2019/ thought we owned his exclusive rights through 2018 anyhow? now here comes 2019 also?..it's truly became a reading like laser to my eyeballs year after year
Browns said they will not hold him to that deadline
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So, ignore my last post. Apparently Browns are going to waive the "report by Tuesday" stipulation and want Josh to focus on the treatment. If this is true, and if Josh is truly just trying to reinforce his sobriety, this approach and level of support is unheard of, and should be celebrated. Right now, fans are just too pessimistic to really believe ANYTHING we read about Josh, and for good reason. We've simply been burnt SO many times, and the last time really hurt us. We had Josh back, he just caught that touchdown bomb at the Tampa Bay preseason game, and right before the season started...he was gone again.
So when we're told anything by the media or especially Josh himself, we tend not to believe it. Or at the very least, think we're not getting the full story. I will say that this entire saga does feel differently than years past. The biggest thing regarding Josh that nobody really wants to talk about is even if he comes back, there's a bigger chance Josh suffers a setback as opposed to remaining in recovery. Addicts don't typically do well in "ultimatum scenarios" (although some can), and make no mistake, he's in one now. "Stay clean or you're gone forever". Still, it's obvious he's a different person now, and he's someone who admits the problem and works very hard on it. That's all we can ask of any human, and I so desperately want to see him succeed. For his family, for his fans, the team, and most of all....for himself.
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HEY JOSH GORDON!! Tom Heckert just passed away. He stuck his neck out for you! YOU OWE THAT MAN!!
HEY JOSH GORDON!! Tom Heckert just passed away. He stuck his neck out for you! YOU OWE THAT MAN!!
And how do you propose that Gordon "pay" him?
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And how do you propose that Gordon "pay" him?
Metaphorically?
noun- a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable inorder to suggest a resemblance, as in “A mighty fortress is our God.”Compare mixed metaphor, simile(def 1).
- something used, or regarded as being used, to represent something else; emblem; symbol.
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And how do you propose that Gordon "pay" him?
Metaphorically?
noun- a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable inorder to suggest a resemblance, as in “A mighty fortress is our God.”Compare mixed metaphor, simile(def 1).
- something used, or regarded as being used, to represent something else; emblem; symbol.
Metaphorically?
noun
- a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable inorder to suggest a resemblance, as in “A mighty fortress is our God.”Compare mixed metaphor, simile(def 1).
- something used, or regarded as being used, to represent something else; emblem; symbol.
It does not answer the question. What kind of "Metaphorical" payment must Josh Gordon make to Tom Heckert?
You could say that "well, now Josh has to prove to the world and to himself that Heckert putting his faith in him was not unwarranted by Josh coming back and keeping clean and having a great productive season."
See there...I did your job for you.
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Metaphorically?
noun
- a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable inorder to suggest a resemblance, as in “A mighty fortress is our God.”Compare mixed metaphor, simile(def 1).
- something used, or regarded as being used, to represent something else; emblem; symbol.
It does not answer the question. What kind of "Metaphorical" payment must Josh Gordon make to Tom Heckert?
You could say that "well, now Josh has to prove to the world and to himself that Heckert putting his faith in him was not unwarranted by Josh coming back and keeping clean and having a great productive season."
See there...I did your job for you.
It does not answer the question. What kind of "Metaphorical" payment must Josh Gordon make to Tom Heckert?
You could say that "well, now Josh has to prove to the world and to himself that Heckert putting his faith in him was not unwarranted by Josh coming back and keeping clean and having a great productive season."
See there...I did your job for you.
OK allegorically?
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It does not answer the question. What kind of "Metaphorical" payment must Josh Gordon make to Tom Heckert?
You could say that "well, now Josh has to prove to the world and to himself that Heckert putting his faith in him was not unwarranted by Josh coming back and keeping clean and having a great productive season."
See there...I did your job for you.
OK allegorically?
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Crocodilically
Did you mean Crocodillydilly??
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Crocodilically
Did you mean Crocodillydilly??
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Crocodilically
Actually they only way you can really make anything up to a deceased person is in their ulogy......or maybe offer to pay for the funeral.
But seriously may he RIP.
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