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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @lbc-mike said:

    Wow this is going to suck.  One of eight plays seems like a penalty during this preseason game.

    That's why there is a pre-season. The rule was needed... it just a James Harrison too late.

    Will be called very tightly and then "refined' thru the season. The one HOF game hit at the goal had to be more "defenseless WR"...and was a bad call on that count IMO.

    Someday soon the helmets will be wired to determine the degree to which it delivered the force of the hit. Until then there will have to be replay reviews as there is in College.

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    @tour2ma said:

    That's why there is a pre-season. The rule was needed... it just a James Harrison too late.

    Will be called very tightly and then "refined' thru the season. The one HOF game hit at the goal had to be more "defenseless WR"...and was a bad call on that count IMO.

    Someday soon the helmets will be wired to determine the degree to which it delivered the force of the hit. Until then there will have to be replay reviews as there is in College.

    And helmet cams built in with the impact detector. Easy peasy.

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      Maybe a cookie and milk dispensor on the sidelines if they need a timeout.

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        Maybe a cookie and milk dispensor on the sidelines if they need a timeout.

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        @diehardbrownsfan said:

        Maybe a cookie and milk dispensor on the sidelines if they need a timeout.

        After Huey abused the timeouts last year, they were abolished for the Browns to prevent further embarrassment.?

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          this is going to be a disastrous season for football. This new rule is insane. Ill admit i didnt follow this much during the offseason, i wanted a break from football period after 1-32 fir 2 seasons. Seeing this now, i dont know how football survives. 

          The ease with which the passing game can commence now is just stupid. 

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            this is going to be a disastrous season for football. This new rule is insane. Ill admit i didnt follow this much during the offseason, i wanted a break from football period after 1-32 fir 2 seasons. Seeing this now, i dont know how football survives. 

            The ease with which the passing game can commence now is just stupid. 

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            @clevfan4life said:

            this is going to be a disastrous season for football. This new rule is insane. Ill admit i didnt follow this much during the offseason, i wanted a break from football period after 1-32 fir 2 seasons. Seeing this now, i dont know how football survives. 

            The ease with which the passing game can commence now is just stupid. 

            Not good timing if that happens. 

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              @lbc-mike said:

              Wow this is going to suck.  One of eight plays seems like a penalty during this preseason game.

              It wont last.

              Last season they were buckling down early in the season and eventually stopped throwing so many flags.

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              @boo-fagley said:

              It wont last.

              When the cat got out of the bag (concussions are VERY bad for you....and football players get them A LOT) there was no putting it back in the bag.

              The NFL gets it's primary resource (human resource) from children growing up playing football.  Once parents understood (the cat out of the bag) then the NFL had NO CHOICE but to try and make the game less dangerous.  Especially with respect to the brain.  I'm not even sure that the NFL will be able to DO enough to keep overall society content.  

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                @boo-fagley said:

                It wont last.

                When the cat got out of the bag (concussions are VERY bad for you....and football players get them A LOT) there was no putting it back in the bag.

                The NFL gets it's primary resource (human resource) from children growing up playing football.  Once parents understood (the cat out of the bag) then the NFL had NO CHOICE but to try and make the game less dangerous.  Especially with respect to the brain.  I'm not even sure that the NFL will be able to DO enough to keep overall society content.  

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                @orion said:

                When the cat got out of the bag (concussions are VERY bad for you....and football players get them A LOT) there was no putting it back in the bag.

                The NFL gets it's primary resource (human resource) from children growing up playing football.  Once parents understood (the cat out of the bag) then the NFL had NO CHOICE but to try and make the game less dangerous.  Especially with respect to the brain.  I'm not even sure that the NFL will be able to DO enough to keep overall society content.  

                Lots of times QBs get concussions just being pushed down and having their heads hit the turf.

                They will never prevent brain injuries from occurring.

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                  @orion said:

                  When the cat got out of the bag (concussions are VERY bad for you....and football players get them A LOT) there was no putting it back in the bag.

                  The NFL gets it's primary resource (human resource) from children growing up playing football.  Once parents understood (the cat out of the bag) then the NFL had NO CHOICE but to try and make the game less dangerous.  Especially with respect to the brain.  I'm not even sure that the NFL will be able to DO enough to keep overall society content.  

                  Lots of times QBs get concussions just being pushed down and having their heads hit the turf.

                  They will never prevent brain injuries from occurring.

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                  @boo-fagley said:

                  Lots of times QBs get concussions just being pushed down and having their heads hit the turf.

                  They will never prevent brain injuries from occurring.

                  Therein lies the dilemma.  

                  When Greg Robinson was in concussion protocol Hue said, these things happen, it's football.  - I'm certain that an NFL marketing man would've cringed hearing that.  

                  I've loved football since I was a little boy (the latter part of Jim Brown's career).  I now have two grandboys,  2 and 4  and a half years old respectively.  I wouldn't point them towards playing football.  It's not good at all for the human body and I couldn't, in good conscience,  advise it.  But I'll buy them a guitar, or whatever musical instrument they'd like to learn.   And they could play tennis, softball, basketball, etc, etc.

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                  • OrionO Orion

                    @boo-fagley said:

                    Lots of times QBs get concussions just being pushed down and having their heads hit the turf.

                    They will never prevent brain injuries from occurring.

                    Therein lies the dilemma.  

                    When Greg Robinson was in concussion protocol Hue said, these things happen, it's football.  - I'm certain that an NFL marketing man would've cringed hearing that.  

                    I've loved football since I was a little boy (the latter part of Jim Brown's career).  I now have two grandboys,  2 and 4  and a half years old respectively.  I wouldn't point them towards playing football.  It's not good at all for the human body and I couldn't, in good conscience,  advise it.  But I'll buy them a guitar, or whatever musical instrument they'd like to learn.   And they could play tennis, softball, basketball, etc, etc.

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                    @orion said:

                    Therein lies the dilemma.  

                    When Greg Robinson was in concussion protocol Hue said, these things happen, it's football.  - I'm certain that an NFL marketing man would've cringed hearing that.  

                    I've loved football since I was a little boy (the latter part of Jim Brown's career).  I now have two grandboys,  2 and 4  and a half years old respectively.  I wouldn't point them towards playing football.  It's not good at all for the human body and I couldn't, in good conscience,  advise it.  But I'll buy them a guitar, or whatever musical instrument they'd like to learn.   And they could play tennis, softball, basketball, etc, etc.

                    The NFL has to put on the good face that they are proactive warding off brain injuries for liability purposes.

                    The game has changed. Today, 200 lb DBs are fast and hit like LBs. There is no way to condition ligaments, connective tissue and brains for this type of impact.

                    Beginning of 2018 season the NFL will call 20 penalties a game for helmet contact and the product will suffer. End of the season you will see the same penalty called infrequently.

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                      @orion said:

                      When the cat got out of the bag (concussions are VERY bad for you....and football players get them A LOT) there was no putting it back in the bag.

                      The NFL gets it's primary resource (human resource) from children growing up playing football.  Once parents understood (the cat out of the bag) then the NFL had NO CHOICE but to try and make the game less dangerous.  Especially with respect to the brain.  I'm not even sure that the NFL will be able to DO enough to keep overall society content.  

                      Lots of times QBs get concussions just being pushed down and having their heads hit the turf.

                      They will never prevent brain injuries from occurring.

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                      mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                      @boo-fagley said:

                      Lots of times QBs get concussions just being pushed down and having their heads hit the turf.

                      They will never prevent brain injuries from occurring.

                      They can try to cut down on the number or severity of the head injuries -but- it is tackle football people are going to hit people,  players are better conditioned to run and hit than ever.

                      It would be like trying to get rid of fender benders in NASCAR.......and a big reason people watch both, to see the HITS!

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                        LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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                        Another aspect of pussyfieing everything .  give all the players a participation trophy and call it a season done .

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                          Another aspect of pussyfieing everything .  give all the players a participation trophy and call it a season done .

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                          mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                          @lbc-mike said:

                          Another aspect of pussyfieing everything .  give all the players a participation trophy and call it a season done .

                          Yeah here's your little plastic atta' boy for playing trophy.......and your NFL players'  league minimum contract of $1,000,000 just for making the team showing up.

                          Is this a great game or what! 😉

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                            @boo-fagley said:

                            Lots of times QBs get concussions just being pushed down and having their heads hit the turf.

                            They will never prevent brain injuries from occurring.

                            Therein lies the dilemma.  

                            When Greg Robinson was in concussion protocol Hue said, these things happen, it's football.  - I'm certain that an NFL marketing man would've cringed hearing that.  

                            I've loved football since I was a little boy (the latter part of Jim Brown's career).  I now have two grandboys,  2 and 4  and a half years old respectively.  I wouldn't point them towards playing football.  It's not good at all for the human body and I couldn't, in good conscience,  advise it.  But I'll buy them a guitar, or whatever musical instrument they'd like to learn.   And they could play tennis, softball, basketball, etc, etc.

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                            gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                            @orion said:

                            Therein lies the dilemma.  

                            My local NC paper  https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/under-the-dome/article197213314.html  I travel to the biggest friday night lights in town. It's down & the talent pool is down too..We kickoff the year this friday night

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                              @orion said:

                              Therein lies the dilemma.  

                              My local NC paper  https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/under-the-dome/article197213314.html  I travel to the biggest friday night lights in town. It's down & the talent pool is down too..We kickoff the year this friday night

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                              @gumby73 said:

                              My local NC paper  https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/under-the-dome/article197213314.html  I travel to the biggest friday night lights in town. It's down & the talent pool is down too..

                              I first saw the CTE story years back on PBS and wasn't sure how factual and serious it was, turns out it is very much for real. Still not every person that plays tackle football will get concussions or have serious long term effects (like me) I've been knocked out in the late 1960s and am 67 now with no apparent after effects but that is not true everywhere in every case.

                              Plus there is more evidence and awareness like this:

                              .........

                              Concussion awareness is at an all-time high. Will Smith starred in “Concussion,” a 2015 movie that chronicles the discovery of CTE – chronic traumatic encephalopathy – in former NFL players’ brains. All levels of football have tried to address hits to the head.

                              Foxworth, as president of the NFL Players’ Association, led negotiations with the NFL to limit the amount of contact allowed in practices. The North Carolina High School Activities Association limits teams to 60 minutes of “live action contact” — defined as contact at game speed where players execute full tackles — per group per week during the regular season. The association also places limits on contact at the beginning of the season and during two-a-day practices.

                              Teevens’ Dartmouth teams do not hit each other at practice. The team practices tackling against robotic dummies and other inanimate objects.......

                              It's not over yet. 

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                                @orion said:

                                When the cat got out of the bag (concussions are VERY bad for you....and football players get them A LOT) there was no putting it back in the bag.

                                The NFL gets it's primary resource (human resource) from children growing up playing football.  Once parents understood (the cat out of the bag) then the NFL had NO CHOICE but to try and make the game less dangerous.  Especially with respect to the brain.  I'm not even sure that the NFL will be able to DO enough to keep overall society content.  

                                Lots of times QBs get concussions just being pushed down and having their heads hit the turf.

                                They will never prevent brain injuries from occurring.

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                                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                @boo-fagley said:

                                Lots of times QBs get concussions just being pushed down and having their heads hit the turf.

                                They will never prevent all brain injuries from occurring.

                                FIFY...

                                Another moronic "can't-cure-it-completely,-so-why-try" argument?

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                                  @boo-fagley said:

                                  Lots of times QBs get concussions just being pushed down and having their heads hit the turf.

                                  They will never prevent all brain injuries from occurring.

                                  FIFY...

                                  Another moronic "can't-cure-it-completely,-so-why-try" argument?

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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  FIFY...

                                  Another moronic "can't-cure-it-completely,-so-why-try" argument?

                                  Mini Mel, where do I state "dont try?"

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                                    LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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                                    Shove a crap load of bubble wrap in their helmets.  

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                                      The solution has already been arrived at......a long time ago in a galaxy far far away:

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