OUR "Hard Knocks" Thread
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So the "Hue being too easy on the players thing" isn't just me, or some of us here, but I've also seen many mentions of it on social media and various 'news' sites this morning as well.
However, Landry's tirade along with Haley's questioning of the culture out loud - and in front of the whole staff, may be exactly what was needed. I'm guessing before last night's show, there were probably 50-75 dudes on the team that never even heard about Landry's rant, much less knew its context...... but now they sure phucking do.
All these dudes either watched last night or have social media, or both, and they now know that some of them are considered 'soft' by their teammate(s), coaches and now the public. That can only be a good thing, as who the hell wants to come off as a pu$$y?
....... maybe that was Hue's genius plan all along?
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Nassib's had a good camp from what I've read. Fricking loved it, eyes were glued to the screen the entire show. Landry is going to blow up in this league like Antonio Brown, love the dude and he's been Dorsey's best decision so far. He's the leader this team's been lacking for years (sorry Joe Thomas). It's also obvious why they released (traded for peanuts) Corey Coleman, hopefully Callaway gets his act together but I doubt it.
I hear ya
I was recording and watched it live
My wife got home about twenty minutes after it ended. We sat down, watched it again.
Kept marveling at Landry and couldn’t stop thinking Paul Warfield.
Really good job of production, editing and continuity. Totally dug how they intercut between Chubb and Mayfield at the airport.
I liked how Baker came off throughout
Really good job of production, editing and continuity. Totally dug how they intercut between Chubb and Mayfield at the airport.
Yeah everyone knew Mayfield but Chubb was explaining what he did every step and some probably still think he was just a football player still @ Georgia since he never really elaborated until cornered. Fine with me. Let the play do the talking!
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Just watched the 1st episode on HBO Go. One player who really impressed me was Jarvis Landry. I loved his speech to the other receivers. We need everyone with his attitude.
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so nassib is being featured? why?
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Finally, I got to watch it after surfing for a while (420p but I'll take it). It was an entertaining episode, but apart from Landry being a blessing to the team, I sensed that not much action was going.
I know that they have limited contact training and they had to focus on Hue's family plotline, but I want to see some fights, some fire. There are 90 players in the roster, only 53 staying by the end of the month, on a 1-31 team. That should push each one to their limit.
Good to hear about Josh Gordon.
Funny thing: Mayfield starts the episode introducing the RV and saying that ''in other teams rookies get the drinks to the vets and all that... Not here''. 30 minutes later on the episode, 4th string rookie Quaterback is buying and filling the snacks for the rest of the QBs, lol.
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After sleeping on it and having it gnaw away at my subconscious all night, the whole "This is my chair, it's my call cause I sit in this chair. I used to sit in your chair" thing really came off as arrogant and was a microcosm of what makes Hue a 1-31/0-16 head coach.
You have multiple coaches, and a freaking stud PLAYER all saying the same thing, yet the "players coach" won't listen to a second of it...... Can you imaging Belichick being as soft as Hue?
Hue the man is a good dude - Hue the head coach is in way over his head.
After sleeping on it and having it gnaw away at my subconscious all night, the whole "This is my chair, it's my call cause I sit in this chair. I used to sit in your chair" thing really came off as arrogant and was a microcosm of what makes Hue a 1-31/0-16 head coach.
You have multiple coaches, and a freaking stud PLAYER all saying the same thing, yet the "players coach" won't listen to a second of it...... Can you imaging Belichick being as soft as Hue?
Hue the man is a good dude - Hue the head coach is in way over his head.
I felt exactly the same. I never like when someone uses as the argument ''I was in your position, and thought the same. But if you were in my position, you'd do as I''.
Maybe I didn't fully understand, but they were talking about making the injured players (or players with the risk of getting an injury) at least dress up for practice, right? They have to work on the work ethic and mentality. Even with the new additions, this team needs to play to its best to get a W. They're not earning one playing worse than the team in front of them, as some great teams do.
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I though Hue and the OC were going to get into an argument, but the OC let up.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Where's the love for the Georgia Bulldawg landing at the Airport waiting on his bag? Poor Nick Chubb gets some HK fairy fan that don't even know who he is.
..Poe'G we need you take one for the team..When da plane,da 
️ Plane gets back from Giants game we want 1st class service by the Poe'g-man waiting...with Chubb banners ?
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After sleeping on it and having it gnaw away at my subconscious all night, the whole "This is my chair, it's my call cause I sit in this chair. I used to sit in your chair" thing really came off as arrogant and was a microcosm of what makes Hue a 1-31/0-16 head coach.
You have multiple coaches, and a freaking stud PLAYER all saying the same thing, yet the "players coach" won't listen to a second of it...... Can you imaging Belichick being as soft as Hue?
Hue the man is a good dude - Hue the head coach is in way over his head.
After sleeping on it and having it gnaw away at my subconscious all night, the whole "This is my chair, it's my call cause I sit in this chair. I used to sit in your chair" thing really came off as arrogant and was a microcosm of what makes Hue a 1-31/0-16 head coach.
You have multiple coaches, and a freaking stud PLAYER all saying the same thing, yet the "players coach" won't listen to a second of it...... Can you imaging Belichick being as soft as Hue?
Hue the man is a good dude - Hue the head coach is in way over his head.
I've always protected Hue, but after watching Hard Knocks, I have to agree with you. Especially when Haley said the team was soft. Hue, you have to wake up, or you won't be the leader of this team much longer. As a matter of fact, I'd give him the first 5 games of the season. If the record is still bad, he's out.
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Really good job of production, editing and continuity. Totally dug how they intercut between Chubb and Mayfield at the airport.
Yeah everyone knew Mayfield but Chubb was explaining what he did every step and some probably still think he was just a football player still @ Georgia since he never really elaborated until cornered. Fine with me. Let the play do the talking!
Yeah everyone knew Mayfield but Chubb was explaining what he did every step and some probably still think he was just a football player still @ Georgia since he never really elaborated until cornered. Fine with me. Let the play do the talking!
I noticed that. Even when the guy asked what team he played for and he replied Georgia, you would think the guy would have known we drafted him in the 2nd round. But you could tell that guy was not a football fan. Ask him a Baseball or Basketball question and i'll bet he could answer it. We need our fans back and after this season or next, we definitely should.
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haven't watched the episode yet, but it's hard to imagine a 1-32 coach having a big disagreement with anybody about whether your team is soft or not. I know there's multiple variances why we're 1-32. I don't think the Browns are poosies by any stretch, these kids played hard for most of last year...they just sucked. But to a certain extent you have to acknowledge a 1-32 team has some issues with being soft. Maybe not physically so much but mentally for sure. If that's not dawning on Hue in year 3....well......I've also given him a lot of leash but that comes to a decisive end this year if the team still plays like it has for 2 years.
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Finally, I got to watch it after surfing for a while (420p but I'll take it). It was an entertaining episode, but apart from Landry being a blessing to the team, I sensed that not much action was going.
I know that they have limited contact training and they had to focus on Hue's family plotline, but I want to see some fights, some fire. There are 90 players in the roster, only 53 staying by the end of the month, on a 1-31 team. That should push each one to their limit.
Good to hear about Josh Gordon.
Funny thing: Mayfield starts the episode introducing the RV and saying that ''in other teams rookies get the drinks to the vets and all that... Not here''. 30 minutes later on the episode, 4th string rookie Quaterback is buying and filling the snacks for the rest of the QBs, lol.
Finally, I got to watch it after surfing for a while (420p but I'll take it). It was an entertaining episode, but apart from Landry being a blessing to the team, I sensed that not much action was going.
I know that they have limited contact training and they had to focus on Hue's family plotline, but I want to see some fights, some fire. There are 90 players in the roster, only 53 staying by the end of the month, on a 1-31 team. That should push each one to their limit.
Good to hear about Josh Gordon.
Funny thing: Mayfield starts the episode introducing the RV and saying that ''in other teams rookies get the drinks to the vets and all that... Not here''. 30 minutes later on the episode, 4th string rookie Quaterback is buying and filling the snacks for the rest of the QBs, lol.
Nero, you will see more fights as the show progresses. I think the players knew they were on TV and just need it to settle in.
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hue said if I am not mistaken that only the final 53 will earn their stripes,,,,,so on thursrday night are we going to be playing in just orange helmets ?
hue said if I am not mistaken that only the final 53 will earn their stripes,,,,,so on thursrday night are we going to be playing in just orange helmets ?
Good question! Though, maybe he means that they will earn them to wear at practice.
I wonder if NFL rules allows for different (experimental?) uniform/helmet variations for the preseason that would not apply to the regular season. I don't see why not, especially where a team may want to gauge how different looks go over.
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I though Hue and the OC were going to get into an argument, but the OC let up.
I though Hue and the OC were going to get into an argument, but the OC let up.
or did Haley swallow his canary in the end, cause those camera's were in the room? ?
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson -
Anyone spot Coleman laying on the floor?
Little wonder they shipped his azz to another team for a 6 pack.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
I though Hue and the OC were going to get into an argument, but the OC let up.
or did Haley swallow his canary in the end, cause those camera's were in the room? ?
or did Haley swallow his canary in the end, cause those camera's were in the room? ?
You can tell Haley grew as a coach under Parcells.
The big tuna wouldn’t tolerate soft players.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
hue said if I am not mistaken that only the final 53 will earn their stripes,,,,,so on thursrday night are we going to be playing in just orange helmets ?
Good question! Though, maybe he means that they will earn them to wear at practice.
I wonder if NFL rules allows for different (experimental?) uniform/helmet variations for the preseason that would not apply to the regular season. I don't see why not, especially where a team may want to gauge how different looks go over.
Good question! Though, maybe he means that they will earn them to wear at practice.
I wonder if NFL rules allows for different (experimental?) uniform/helmet variations for the preseason that would not apply to the regular season. I don't see why not, especially where a team may want to gauge how different looks go over.
put the ELF on the helmet
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I though Hue and the OC were going to get into an argument, but the OC let up.
or did Haley swallow his canary in the end, cause those camera's were in the room? ?
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Just added HBO for a month...15 bux for a month...get me thru
Me too K! I added it for 9 and change on DirecTV.
I really enjoyed the 1st episode. I don't know what I'm celebrating most about Jarvis Landry - talent, work ethic or brains. I'll take all 3. That's about as close to walking on water as it gets from the WR position in Cleveland. No wonder why he uses the term "Blessed".
Me too K! I added it for 9 and change on DirecTV.
I really enjoyed the 1st episode. I don't know what I'm celebrating most about Jarvis Landry - talent, work ethic or brains. I'll take all 3. That's about as close to walking on water as it gets from the WR position in Cleveland. No wonder why he uses the term "Blessed".
I've got a confession... Bless'em then~
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