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  • @boo-fagley said:

    Dez is the pick of the litter.

    Lafail is nothing special and Maclin invisible some games with KC. The rest are JAGS.

    Perhaps, though, in looking at this more closely....it does seem that Bryant has a much lower catch to target ratio than even some of these guys. Only 52%.

    LaFell   58+%.  Coleman 62%.  Maclin 55.5%

    Why/how would that be?

    @the-gipper said:

    Perhaps, though, in looking at this more closely....it does seem that Bryant has a much lower catch to target ratio than even some of these guys. Only 52%.

    LaFell   58+%.  Coleman 62%.  Maclin 55.5%

    Why/how would that be?

    Approximately 30% of his passes are deep or bombs.

    Lower completion rate passes.

    https://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/24313/dez-bryant

  • @the-gipper said:

    Perhaps, though, in looking at this more closely....it does seem that Bryant has a much lower catch to target ratio than even some of these guys. Only 52%.

    LaFell   58+%.  Coleman 62%.  Maclin 55.5%

    Why/how would that be?

    Approximately 30% of his passes are deep or bombs.

    Lower completion rate passes.

    https://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/24313/dez-bryant

    @boo-fagley said:

    Approximately 30% of his passes are deep or bombs.

    Lower completion rate passes.

    https://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/24313/dez-bryant

    A reasonable explanation.

  • Bills fans must be excited, at least. Now they finally have their star Greg Little 2.0 WR to pair up with their rookie QB who can't hit the broad side of a barn.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    Bills fans must be excited, at least. Now they finally have their star Greg Little 2.0 WR to pair up with their rookie QB who can't hit the broad side of a barn.

    Just wait till you see TT in action. I don't know what Allen will amount to (career wise) But I'm well aware of who and what TT is.

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    Bills fans must be excited, at least. Now they finally have their star Greg Little 2.0 WR to pair up with their rookie QB who can't hit the broad side of a barn.

    Just wait till you see TT in action. I don't know what Allen will amount to (career wise) But I'm well aware of who and what TT is.

    @shady-mccoy said:

    Just wait till you see TT in action. I don't know what Allen will amount to (career wise) But I'm well aware of who and what TT is.

    And, just WTF do you think that is?

  • @shady-mccoy said:

    Just wait till you see TT in action. I don't know what Allen will amount to (career wise) But I'm well aware of who and what TT is.

    And, just WTF do you think that is?

    @the-gipper said:

    And, just WTF do you think that is?

    He plays it very safe, that helps him not turn it over. He doesn't throw into tight windows if you aren't wide open the ball will not be thrown.(2 steps or more) He won't see you if you are wide open at times due to his height. The OL has to be good because he holds the ball the longest of any QB in the league. If you fall behind 10 or more points in a game in the second half you can just assume it is a loss, since he has NEVER comeback from that insurmountable 10pt deficit. Expect most games to be in the 200 yard range passing. He had 1 300 yard game in Buffalo and he needed OT to get it. 2 or 3 games a year he will surprise you with less than 100 yards passing. BTW these aren't things I think, these are the facts. I like TT but he's just an average QB if that.

  • @the-gipper said:

    And, just WTF do you think that is?

    He plays it very safe, that helps him not turn it over. He doesn't throw into tight windows if you aren't wide open the ball will not be thrown.(2 steps or more) He won't see you if you are wide open at times due to his height. The OL has to be good because he holds the ball the longest of any QB in the league. If you fall behind 10 or more points in a game in the second half you can just assume it is a loss, since he has NEVER comeback from that insurmountable 10pt deficit. Expect most games to be in the 200 yard range passing. He had 1 300 yard game in Buffalo and he needed OT to get it. 2 or 3 games a year he will surprise you with less than 100 yards passing. BTW these aren't things I think, these are the facts. I like TT but he's just an average QB if that.

    @shady-mccoy said:

    He plays it very safe, that helps him not turn it over. He doesn't throw into tight windows if you aren't wide open the ball will not be thrown.(2 steps or more) He won't see you if you are wide open at times due to his height. The OL has to be good because he holds the ball the longest of any QB in the league. If you fall behind 10 or more points in a game in the second half you can just assume it is a loss, since he has NEVER comeback from that insurmountable 10pt deficit. Expect most games to be in the 200 yard range passing. He had 1 300 yard game in Buffalo and he needed OT to get it. 2 or 3 games a year he will surprise you with less than 100 yards passing. BTW these aren't things I think, these are the facts. I like TT but he's just an average QB if that.

    ah great, now another Buff-a-homo fan to join Mahom-a-homo fan..We will have to make this quick cause Josh Allen may miss your barn & take out your rabbit ear wifi antenna 🙂. That btw would make espn's top 10..  A) Do all you Bills fans meet in the same mother's basement to give us the same tyrod scouting report? B.)How many offensive weapons could you count after McCoy,with Tyrod? C) Count ours.. than D)ever heard of Todd Haley?   

  • @the-gipper said:

    And, just WTF do you think that is?

    He plays it very safe, that helps him not turn it over. He doesn't throw into tight windows if you aren't wide open the ball will not be thrown.(2 steps or more) He won't see you if you are wide open at times due to his height. The OL has to be good because he holds the ball the longest of any QB in the league. If you fall behind 10 or more points in a game in the second half you can just assume it is a loss, since he has NEVER comeback from that insurmountable 10pt deficit. Expect most games to be in the 200 yard range passing. He had 1 300 yard game in Buffalo and he needed OT to get it. 2 or 3 games a year he will surprise you with less than 100 yards passing. BTW these aren't things I think, these are the facts. I like TT but he's just an average QB if that.

    @shady-mccoy said:

    He plays it very safe, that helps him not turn it over. He doesn't throw into tight windows if you aren't wide open the ball will not be thrown.(2 steps or more) He won't see you if you are wide open at times due to his height. The OL has to be good because he holds the ball the longest of any QB in the league. If you fall behind 10 or more points in a game in the second half you can just assume it is a loss, since he has NEVER comeback from that insurmountable 10pt deficit. Expect most games to be in the 200 yard range passing. He had 1 300 yard game in Buffalo and he needed OT to get it. 2 or 3 games a year he will surprise you with less than 100 yards passing. BTW these aren't things I think, these are the facts. I like TT but he's just an average QB if that.

    Despite what some of our "optimistic" Browns fans think of Taylor, I feel that is an accurate description of him.

    He's a QB who won't lose you many games, but won't win many for you either. A guy who will always have a job, but whose team will always be looking to upgrade from. 

    That being said, he'll be light-years better than anything the Browns had last year. 

  • @shady-mccoy said:

    He plays it very safe, that helps him not turn it over. He doesn't throw into tight windows if you aren't wide open the ball will not be thrown.(2 steps or more) He won't see you if you are wide open at times due to his height. The OL has to be good because he holds the ball the longest of any QB in the league. If you fall behind 10 or more points in a game in the second half you can just assume it is a loss, since he has NEVER comeback from that insurmountable 10pt deficit. Expect most games to be in the 200 yard range passing. He had 1 300 yard game in Buffalo and he needed OT to get it. 2 or 3 games a year he will surprise you with less than 100 yards passing. BTW these aren't things I think, these are the facts. I like TT but he's just an average QB if that.

    Despite what some of our "optimistic" Browns fans think of Taylor, I feel that is an accurate description of him.

    He's a QB who won't lose you many games, but won't win many for you either. A guy who will always have a job, but whose team will always be looking to upgrade from. 

    That being said, he'll be light-years better than anything the Browns had last year. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Despite what some of our "optimistic" Browns fans think of Taylor, I feel that is an accurate description of him.

    He's a QB who won't lose you many games, but won't win many for you either. A guy who will always have a job, but whose team will always be looking to upgrade from. 

    That being said, he'll be light-years better than anything the Browns had last year. 

    Agree... and that'll drive Hue nuts just like Kess did.

    I'm still lookin' for Baker by the 1/4-pole.

  • @shady-mccoy said:

    He plays it very safe, that helps him not turn it over. He doesn't throw into tight windows if you aren't wide open the ball will not be thrown.(2 steps or more) He won't see you if you are wide open at times due to his height. The OL has to be good because he holds the ball the longest of any QB in the league. If you fall behind 10 or more points in a game in the second half you can just assume it is a loss, since he has NEVER comeback from that insurmountable 10pt deficit. Expect most games to be in the 200 yard range passing. He had 1 300 yard game in Buffalo and he needed OT to get it. 2 or 3 games a year he will surprise you with less than 100 yards passing. BTW these aren't things I think, these are the facts. I like TT but he's just an average QB if that.

    ah great, now another Buff-a-homo fan to join Mahom-a-homo fan..We will have to make this quick cause Josh Allen may miss your barn & take out your rabbit ear wifi antenna 🙂. That btw would make espn's top 10..  A) Do all you Bills fans meet in the same mother's basement to give us the same tyrod scouting report? B.)How many offensive weapons could you count after McCoy,with Tyrod? C) Count ours.. than D)ever heard of Todd Haley?   

    @gumby73 said:

    ah great, now another Buff-a-homo fan to join Mahom-a-homo fan..We will have to make this quick cause Josh Allen may miss your barn & take out your rabbit ear wifi antenna 🙂. That btw would make espn's top 10..  A) Do all you Bills fans meet in the same mother's basement to give us the same tyrod scouting report? B.)How many offensive weapons could you count after McCoy,with Tyrod? C) Count ours.. than D)ever heard of Todd Haley?   

    Remember that time you tried to use corny insults because someone explained what they saw week in and week out. I don't live in Buffalo ??. Anyway we had Sammy Watkins and Robert Woods. I wonder why Woods had a career year after leaving the Bills.?? 

  • MCGAHEE21 said:

    I love the browns. 2nd behind blo

    Who is blo?

  • MCGAHEE21 said:

    B-uffa-lo

    Blo

    Right on, l didn’t know that was a thing. We could go with cnd, but not very catchy.

    Coleman trade. Good for you guys l think. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    And, just WTF do you think that is?

    He plays it very safe, that helps him not turn it over. He doesn't throw into tight windows if you aren't wide open the ball will not be thrown.(2 steps or more) He won't see you if you are wide open at times due to his height. The OL has to be good because he holds the ball the longest of any QB in the league. If you fall behind 10 or more points in a game in the second half you can just assume it is a loss, since he has NEVER comeback from that insurmountable 10pt deficit. Expect most games to be in the 200 yard range passing. He had 1 300 yard game in Buffalo and he needed OT to get it. 2 or 3 games a year he will surprise you with less than 100 yards passing. BTW these aren't things I think, these are the facts. I like TT but he's just an average QB if that.

    @shady-mccoy said:

    He plays it very safe, that helps him not turn it over. He doesn't throw into tight windows if you aren't wide open the ball will not be thrown.(2 steps or more) He won't see you if you are wide open at times due to his height. The OL has to be good because he holds the ball the longest of any QB in the league. If you fall behind 10 or more points in a game in the second half you can just assume it is a loss, since he has NEVER comeback from that insurmountable 10pt deficit. Expect most games to be in the 200 yard range passing. He had 1 300 yard game in Buffalo and he needed OT to get it. 2 or 3 games a year he will surprise you with less than 100 yards passing. BTW these aren't things I think, these are the facts. I like TT but he's just an average QB if that.

    Playing it safe may be OK for the Browns at this point.  Did you pay any attention to the turnover machine we had at QB last year?

    Nevertheless,  at some point we all expect Mayfield to take over.   Mayfield looks like a guy who is perhaps a fairly big risk taker.  If TT can teach  BM to temper his risky nature at times...I see no problem with that.

  • @londonbrown said:

    Another new regime dumping players from the old one. The cycle continues ?

    This could partly be it. Of course, in 99% of the cases, the guys dumped deserved to be, and never really produced much elsewhere.  About the only guy I can think of is Dion Lewis....who went from here to New England.   And maybe much of his success had to do with the fact that they had Tom Brady throwing to him.

    Can anyone name any other Browns player who was let go/traded because the Browns thought they were not productive, but who went elsewhere and did quite well?

    @the-gipper said:

    This could partly be it. Of course, in 99% of the cases, the guys dumped deserved to be, and never really produced much elsewhere.  About the only guy I can think of is Dion Lewis....who went from here to New England.   And maybe much of his success had to do with the fact that they had Tom Brady throwing to him.

    Can anyone name any other Browns player who was let go/traded because the Browns thought they were not productive, but who went elsewhere and did quite well?

    The safety that ended up in Denver?

  • @londonbrown said:

    Another new regime dumping players from the old one. The cycle continues ?

    This could partly be it. Of course, in 99% of the cases, the guys dumped deserved to be, and never really produced much elsewhere.  About the only guy I can think of is Dion Lewis....who went from here to New England.   And maybe much of his success had to do with the fact that they had Tom Brady throwing to him.

    Can anyone name any other Browns player who was let go/traded because the Browns thought they were not productive, but who went elsewhere and did quite well?

    @the-gipper said:

    This could partly be it. Of course, in 99% of the cases, the guys dumped deserved to be, and never really produced much elsewhere.  About the only guy I can think of is Dion Lewis....who went from here to New England.   And maybe much of his success had to do with the fact that they had Tom Brady throwing to him.

    Can anyone name any other Browns player who was let go/traded because the Browns thought they were not productive, but who went elsewhere and did quite well?

    Mack and Gabriel

  • @the-gipper said:

    This could partly be it. Of course, in 99% of the cases, the guys dumped deserved to be, and never really produced much elsewhere.  About the only guy I can think of is Dion Lewis....who went from here to New England.   And maybe much of his success had to do with the fact that they had Tom Brady throwing to him.

    Can anyone name any other Browns player who was let go/traded because the Browns thought they were not productive, but who went elsewhere and did quite well?

    The safety that ended up in Denver?

    @mohican said:

    The safety that ended up in Denver?

    We mentioned that TJ Ward left here as a Free Agent.

  • @the-gipper said:

    This could partly be it. Of course, in 99% of the cases, the guys dumped deserved to be, and never really produced much elsewhere.  About the only guy I can think of is Dion Lewis....who went from here to New England.   And maybe much of his success had to do with the fact that they had Tom Brady throwing to him.

    Can anyone name any other Browns player who was let go/traded because the Browns thought they were not productive, but who went elsewhere and did quite well?

    Mack and Gabriel

    @mohican said:

    Mack and Gabriel

    Mack was also a Free agent.    See above for the conversation about Gabriel.    He may be one that fits. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    So we basically gave away Coleman for a 7th rounder in 2020?

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24294944/cleveland-browns-trade-wr-corey-coleman-buffalo-bills-draft-pick

    Sashi would have at least gotten a 2019 7th... 😉

  • @texasag1969 said:

    So we basically gave away Coleman for a 7th rounder in 2020?

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24294944/cleveland-browns-trade-wr-corey-coleman-buffalo-bills-draft-pick

    Sashi would have at least gotten a 2019 7th... 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    Sashi would have at least gotten a 2019 7th... 😉

    Sorry Tour- if Sashi was still here, Coleman would still be on the team...