Japan warns that N. Korea may fire missile at U.S. (Hawaii)
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Seriously Steve.... your "understanding" of My other countries cease fire/containment issues is rudimentary AT BEST. The only thing you know is from a random news story you may have read all the way thru.
I need to pull MY head out of my ass about North korean tactics and foreign policy/internal domestic dynamics? OK mr I never served in any military, I am sure my understanding because I LIVED THERE,TRAINED THERE, I AM KOREAN WITH FAMILY IN THE NORTH, SATURATED WITH EDUCATION SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ANYTHING NORTH KOREAN. Vs well You who has probably never been there of really have any rudimentary historical,political or any sort of education about Korean peninsula problems...
Sure.
Let me set you straight quickly..... FIRST NORTH KOREA does not care what the U.S. really does with its foreign policy......WHY you ask..... BECAUSE OF CHINA. All they see the U.S. as truly is a unsurmountable MILITARY power..... that they can blackmail into paying them something.
CHINA is the MOST important player.... ask ANY Korean war veteran what turned the tide.... it was not the North Koreans.
So you can ignorantly talk about Obama and how his FP and your perception of his weaknesses or strengths on how this "no coincidence" behavior lmao correlates with the Norths current behavior....
This is purely about SUCCESSION/FACE/ECONOMICS not about U.S. leadership or policy. South korean leadership right now is not exactly what you may define as "liberal" the party in power is more like your extreme right wing led by Blackwater. THAT is also another HUGE piece to this puzzle. Like I said before you really should refrain from posting on this until you read and understand a whole hell of a lot more than you obviously do.
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Wow, Sev...
Crickets......
I really don't bother going to the news about North Korea, I'll just read your posts.
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Wow, Sev...
Crickets......
I really don't bother going to the news about North Korea, I'll just read your posts.
Wow, Sev...
Crickets......
I really don't bother going to the news about North Korea, I'll just read your posts.
Crickets?
As much time as I waste here I do other things as well.
Look if either of you guys wants to pretend that the POTUS, The US defense and state depts and foreign policy have no bearing nor effect in this situation and haven't over a great period of time you're out of your minds.
Sorry.
I can't even imagine a seriuous positive response to that idea even from anyone here.
WSS
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The problem is, Sev,
N. Korea got Carter to stupidly bribe them with $$$$$$, then secretly violated that.
Even Carter admitted he was a fool over that.
Now, you didn't see N. Korea trying to blackmail Pres Bush. He knew that wouldn't work.
But Obama has shown a huge display of weakness and pandering for world popularity.
Not workin much, now.
N. Korea wants to blackmail again? Been done, is counter productive, like the treaty to ban research
on non-defensive germ warfare research.
I wonder: China and the Soviets are there for the N. Koreans, why do they have to try to
blackmail the rest of the world?
I believe the alleged bluster by N, Korea is not a bluff, unless they are successful in
dominating the world opinion, and blackmail for giant profit.
Which, is why they wanted the nukes in the first place, apparently.
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They want nukes for the same reason we have them. It pretty much gaurantees outside nations dont invade you. They are not just secretive and obssesive they are borderline crazy.
They have elements in their military elite that believe the U.S. wants to invade them and force a unification. This most likely is not true but they believe it 100%.
Its not that the U.S. policy is not important, its just that they know the U.S. is really subject to Chinese influence first.
As for why North korea feels they can try to blackmail the rest of the world.... WHY NOT, if it worked in the past it more than likely will in the future.
Regardless of when they launch (imho) some test over the Pacific, the end result is cheaper for the world to pay them off in some way.
South Korea also has some "conservatives" in control and the best way to influence South korean leadership is thru international pressure ie blackmail bigger players.
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They want nukes for the same reason we have them. It pretty much gaurantees outside nations dont invade you. Sev
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Wait... they are threatening to nuke somebody if they don't get their way.
I don't think that's what we do with our nuke capability.
So, no, N. Korea, with China and Russia backing them up, don't have to
worry about being invaded. They wanted nukes to threaten and blackmail.
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Cal they dont fully trust the chinese and definately not the russians. They want to internally preserve themselves .
Would they use them to be a bully and blackmail the world? YES i dont want them to have them which is why i am for containment/ prolonging diplomatic tactics until they internally collapse
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We should still see N korea as an enemy, and if they do get their hands on Nukes dont be suprised if they use them.
Then all blame will go to the idiots running our country and not acting with diligence and responding in behalf of all Americans.
To bad they are all to busy getting ready for the next Hi-Society Party in DC.
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What would you guys do in this situation?
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