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  • LBC mikeL LBC mike

    Wonder if Kava is banned by the nfl, if not Gordon should be taking it for his anxiety .

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    @lbc-mike said:

    Wonder if Kava is banned by the nfl, if not Gordon should be taking it for his anxiety .

    Need to make weed legal and just up the penalties for everything else 

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      @lbc-mike said:

      Can a team hire a chaperone?

      I’m pretty sure the Bengals had one for Pac-Man Jones and the WR that flew out the back of the pick up truck while he was trying to beat his girlfriend. Worked 50/50 in that case. 

      Dallas had one for someone at one point too I believe.  

      If I’m Hue, I’d hire one or a whole team of guys. Even if it cost me out of my own pocket. 

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      broganreynikB broganreynik wrote on last edited by
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      @hx214 said:

      I’m pretty sure the Bengals had one for Pac-Man Jones and the WR that flew out the back of the pick up truck while he was trying to beat his girlfriend. Worked 50/50 in that case. 

      Dallas had one for someone at one point too I believe.  

      If I’m Hue, I’d hire one or a whole team of guys. Even if it cost me out of my own pocket. 

      @kvoethe said:

      Cowboys had hired some guys to keep an eye on someone a few years ago

      That was Randy Gregory. I’d say it didn’t go well, but he’s playing again, faster than it took for Flash to get back.

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        The whole suspension is Retarded.  If he'd have killed someone,  he probably wouldn't have missed a game

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          The whole suspension is Retarded.  If he'd have killed someone,  he probably wouldn't have missed a game

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          LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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          @sd_tom said:

          The whole suspension is Retarded.  If he'd have killed someone,  he probably wouldn't have missed a game

          What did stallworth get ?

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            @sd_tom said:

            The whole suspension is Retarded.  If he'd have killed someone,  he probably wouldn't have missed a game

            What did stallworth get ?

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            @lbc-mike said:

            What did stallworth get ?

            Damn. He did miss a season. Now I remember, I was just surprised he didn't spend much time in jail. I'd still be locked up if I did that.

            I was thinking Ray Lewis, but he wasn't actually charged with murder, so he just got fined

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              with the wr corp we currently have i dont see the need to rush him. And i mean dez might still be on the table who knows.

              all this is up to landry imo. If landry says he can work with josh and dez, bring dez in. But if landry thinks either of em is the ball cancer........bye

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              @clevfan4life said:

              with the wr corp we currently have i dont see the need to rush him. And i mean dez might still be on the table who knows.

              all this is up to landry imo. If landry says he can work with josh and dez, bring dez in. But if landry thinks either of em is the ball cancer........bye

              It will be up to Hue & Dorsey. But, as I (and others) pointed out before- with Josh back where does (according to the Cowboys lost a step) Dez fit in? #1 Josh, #2 Callaway, slot Landry, #3 Higgins. Yeah, we have the money to buy a very expensive insurance policy in Bryant- but not if he's going to be whining he's not getting enough balls thrown his way. There's a reason he's still unemployed. 

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                Here's hoping he's here for the season... and beyond...

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                @tour2ma said:

                Here's hoping he's here for the season... and beyond...

                More importantly.. Lets hope Josh has his head on.. And his health in tow... I'm rooting for the kid... Callaway , too..

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                  JG is the man. Really hoping he can dominate the league again like he has in the past.

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                  @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                  JG is the man. Really hoping he can dominate the league again like he has in the past.

                  Easy there newbie from the limpdick state...

                  First thing is to win a starting job... which he may well do, but lotta rust on JG and in case you haven't noticed... we have three WRs ballin' out.

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                  More importantly.. Lets hope Josh has his head on.. And his health in tow... I'm rooting for the kid... Callaway , too..

                  Yup... sorta a major prereq to my happy ending.

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                    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                    JG is the man. Really hoping he can dominate the league again like he has in the past.

                    Easy there newbie from the limpdick state...

                    First thing is to win a starting job... which he may well do, but lotta rust on JG and in case you haven't noticed... we have three WRs ballin' out.

                    @nickers said:

                    More importantly.. Lets hope Josh has his head on.. And his health in tow... I'm rooting for the kid... Callaway , too..

                    Yup... sorta a major prereq to my happy ending.

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                    jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                    @tour2ma said:

                    Easy there newbie from the limpdick state...

                    First thing is to win a starting job... which he may well do, but lotta rust on JG and in case you haven't noticed... we have three WRs ballin' out.

                    Yup... sorta a major prereq to my happy ending.

                    Josh winning the starting job won't be immediate, and will obviously hinge on his knowledge of the offense more than anything else. His conditioning won't as good as other receivers, but it also won't be terrible either. The main issue will be whether or not he's a liability to our offense. Running the wrong routes, timing problems, etc. He's missed all of training camp so far, and that's not a minor thing, but let's also not forget that he was in the facility for minicamp and OTA's for the first time in his career. That has to count for something. 

                    In terms of winning the starting position, as long as he knows the offense, it obviously won't be an issue. As good as Higgins has looked, he's a far cry from Gordon. When I watched who Baker was throwing to against Buffalo, I couldn't help but think, "How would he be doing with our starting WRs?" 

                    Good luck Josh. You have more support than you know. 

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                      @clevfan4life said:

                      with the wr corp we currently have i dont see the need to rush him. And i mean dez might still be on the table who knows.

                      all this is up to landry imo. If landry says he can work with josh and dez, bring dez in. But if landry thinks either of em is the ball cancer........bye

                      It will be up to Hue & Dorsey. But, as I (and others) pointed out before- with Josh back where does (according to the Cowboys lost a step) Dez fit in? #1 Josh, #2 Callaway, slot Landry, #3 Higgins. Yeah, we have the money to buy a very expensive insurance policy in Bryant- but not if he's going to be whining he's not getting enough balls thrown his way. There's a reason he's still unemployed. 

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                      FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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                      @hoorta said:

                      It will be up to Hue & Dorsey. But, as I (and others) pointed out before- with Josh back where does (according to the Cowboys lost a step) Dez fit in? #1 Josh, #2 Callaway, slot Landry, #3 Higgins. Yeah, we have the money to buy a very expensive insurance policy in Bryant- but not if he's going to be whining he's not getting enough balls thrown his way. There's a reason he's still unemployed. 

                      Precisely!   If Dez had anything left, he would have never made it to Cleveland.  When his biggest fan on the planet (Jerruh) says "Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out" - it wasn't just the lost step or 2.  It was all the finger pointing, calling out Garrett's faves and being a Twittiot. 

                      If we're going to go with infectious - we already brought in the right kind of it with Jarvis Landry.  Why mess with that?  

                      Just an idea.  Larry Fitzgerald's career got jumper cabled when it appeared he was losing a step and Arians moved his veteran savvy/size to the slot. BABOOMBA!  Joe Jurevicius came here and in 2007 - we used his size advantage in the slot to our advantage especially on 3rd downs in particular.  Randy Moss was a rookie of the year in the Slot with Carter and Reed on the outsides.  So, Landry has been lining up outside a lot especially in training camp practices.  Why not move Gordon to a simplified world of facing 3rd corners where he can run slants, posts, flags and drags?   And how often is a 3rd corner just a little bit shorter/lighter than the 2 ahead of him in terms of the size advantage Gordon would have?  It seems like we should put our change of direction guys on the perimeter where they offer us the ability to run every route in the playbook.

                      The Safety attention Gordon and Njoku would command should prevent defenses from giving extra attention to Landry and Callaway/Higgins...

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                        @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                        JG is the man. Really hoping he can dominate the league again like he has in the past.

                        Easy there newbie from the limpdick state...

                        First thing is to win a starting job... which he may well do, but lotta rust on JG and in case you haven't noticed... we have three WRs ballin' out.

                        @nickers said:

                        More importantly.. Lets hope Josh has his head on.. And his health in tow... I'm rooting for the kid... Callaway , too..

                        Yup... sorta a major prereq to my happy ending.

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                        FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                        @tour2ma said:

                        Easy there newbie from the limpdick state...

                        First thing is to win a starting job... which he may well do, but lotta rust on JG and in case you haven't noticed... we have three WRs ballin' out.

                        Yup... sorta a major prereq to my happy ending.

                        When I read the title of this thread I thought somebody was a couple weeks late in honoring your return.

                        I was gonna say, he's been called a lot of things and Flash isn't one of them.  Speaking of late, glad to see you back and in regular season form already.

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                        • LBC mikeL LBC mike

                          Gordon is like a ticking alarm clock.  When wil he return to the team?  When will he practice?  When will he play?  When will he Shmuck up? When will go away?  So much drama with a guy that has played 5 games in the last 2 years.

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                          @lbc-mike said:

                          Gordon is like a ticking alarm clock.  When wil he return to the team?  When will he practice?  When will he play?  When will he Shmuck up? When will go away?  So much drama with a guy that has played 5 games in the last 2 years.

                          Hopefully he will help win a game or two while he's still on the active roster before the next inevitable departure...... 

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                            JG is the man. Really hoping he can dominate the league again like he has in the past.

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                            @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                            JG is the man. Really hoping he can dominate the league again like he has in the past.

                            josh gordon dominated the league for one season  5 years ago....in the ten or so games he has played since then, he has been mediocre 

                            at best by most metrics

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                              medicinemanM medicineman wrote on last edited by
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                              Josh has what it takes, I am glad he is back, He will be our number 1. Laundry at number 2. I am behind this team no matter how much you guys want him to fail.

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                                LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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                                Callaway is having groin issues so Gordon better step up.

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                                  DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                  I don't want him to fail, I just think he will.

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                                    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                                    JG is the man. Really hoping he can dominate the league again like he has in the past.

                                    josh gordon dominated the league for one season  5 years ago....in the ten or so games he has played since then, he has been mediocre 

                                    at best by most metrics

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                                    @tacosman said:

                                    josh gordon dominated the league for one season  5 years ago....in the ten or so games he has played since then, he has been mediocre 

                                    at best by most metrics

                                    He dominated his matchups last year too. We simply didnt have any one who could throw the ball to him. His conditioning is light years ahead of the year he dominated. We have 2 QB's who are accurate with plenty of arm. He is about to bitch smack every DB in the division. 

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                                      @clevfan4life said:

                                      with the wr corp we currently have i dont see the need to rush him. And i mean dez might still be on the table who knows.

                                      all this is up to landry imo. If landry says he can work with josh and dez, bring dez in. But if landry thinks either of em is the ball cancer........bye

                                      It will be up to Hue & Dorsey. But, as I (and others) pointed out before- with Josh back where does (according to the Cowboys lost a step) Dez fit in? #1 Josh, #2 Callaway, slot Landry, #3 Higgins. Yeah, we have the money to buy a very expensive insurance policy in Bryant- but not if he's going to be whining he's not getting enough balls thrown his way. There's a reason he's still unemployed. 

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                                      @hoorta said:

                                       But, as I (and others) pointed out before- with Josh back where does ...... Dez fit in? 

                                      Dez & his agent were in town.  YOU KNOW that scenario was discussed.  Dez & his agent left town.

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                                        With addicts, you just never know when they'll get their recovery right.  Some never do, some get it right the first try (although very rare), but most take a while to figure out what will work for them and how to overcome their emotions which they've been chemically suppressing for years.  Just remember, nobody wakes up one day and says, "Gee, I want to be an addict!  That sounds great!"  It's a complicated affliction that NEVER goes away, and it's very difficult to "un-train" a person's brain.  Gordon could still be using, he could be a "dry drunk" (not using, but not working on his recovery), or he could legitimately be working on his sobriety and taking steps to live a better life.  Here's where it gets tricky:  Even IF Gordon is seriously working on his recovery (which seems like the case), he could slip up at any time.  It's the nature of being an addict, and most addicts who have 10+ years of sobriety didn't get there without slip-ups.  Still, Gordon obviously has a support network in place, and that's terrific.

                                        Assuming Gordon is sober, he's going to learn faster than ever.  Keep in mind that he basically never played sober, and I'm guessing his mental aptitude was seriously diminished.  Now, he's likely thinking clearly and will retain infinitely more data each day he's with the team.  In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see Gordon in the 4th preseason game.  I'd absolutely LOVE to see him play with Baker some!  That, and we need to make sure he gets some live bullets before our season opener.  Suffice to say that this is no normal opener, and winning this first game would go so very far into changing our narrative.  

                                        Jarvis Landry might be the star of practice everyday, and he apparently outplayed Gordon on a regular basis during minicamp and OTA's.  But don't get it twisted.  As amazing as Landry is (he's actually far better than I thought), Gordon is the guy who will terrify opposing CB's and defensive coordinators, and Gordon is the guy who will make you pay on single coverage.  You miss a tackle with Gordon or take a bad angle, and it's 6 points.  Additionally, Gordon is quite adept at playing the slot position, and can hurt you all over the field.  Oh, and good luck pressing him.

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                                          Did anyone catch the curiously phrased Hue quote on Josh’s return? Particularly the “how long he stays” part, almost implying he might take a leave of absence again. I’ll paste it below.

                                          “I am confident that he is here,” Jackson said. “I think that is the most important part. How long he stays, only Josh knows that, but I think he is in a much better place. I think we feel very good about where he is. I think all those things, as you guys know, are always fluid. That is always a concern, but at the same time, we are here to support, help and try to create the right environments for Josh.”

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