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  • O OhioJet wrote on last edited by
    #8

    I feel as Dez brings more risk than reward to an already loaded WR group. IMO

  • we missed gordon in the redzone tonight. That small forward at wr tgat can outjump everyone. Landry's unguardable everywhere else but in the zone, we need more physicality. I know gordons coming back, but it would be nice to have both until we know if we got the old gordon or not.

    plus deep sets with dez and gordon would be sick

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
    #9

    @clevfan4life said:

    we missed gordon in the redzone tonight. That small forward at wr tgat can outjump everyone. Landry's unguardable everywhere else but in the zone, we need more physicality. I know gordons coming back, but it would be nice to have both until we know if we got the old gordon or not.

    plus deep sets with dez and gordon would be sick

    This^^Dez is 6'2 220lbs. Are under 6ft, under 200lb. smurfs group of WR's could not get open last night. The 4 redzone shots vs 4 runs were called to get Landry a score. And, we stunk in the redzone last season badly,it needed called in preseason games..Njoku,Willies were TD's thrown high to tall receivers. The seattle quick slant play should have been picked again also..Callaway maybe 5'11 but at least he's over 200lbs..we could work a rotation of Dez,Gordon,Callaway all getting time to stay fresh.Higgins can still get his reps also..For once in quite a while I'd like see our WR core bigger & more physical than that team in the Penn.. 

  • L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
    #10

    No see Britt and Bowe for details......but I expect the football guy to do it

  • chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
    #11

    I see no reason to jettison a promising young player for a head case one year rental

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
    #12

    No.. He's a phony POS.

  • I feel as Dez brings more risk than reward to an already loaded WR group. IMO

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #13

    @ohiojet said:

    I feel as Dez brings more risk than reward to an already loaded WR group. IMO

    That's possible -plus- the new BROWNS braintrust might be playing this thing out in their own way. I think they might know more than we mere mortals on Flash and other things. 

    Better no Dez than an overpriced prima donna headcase.

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #14

    Yes yes yes. 

  • we missed gordon in the redzone tonight. That small forward at wr tgat can outjump everyone. Landry's unguardable everywhere else but in the zone, we need more physicality. I know gordons coming back, but it would be nice to have both until we know if we got the old gordon or not.

    plus deep sets with dez and gordon would be sick

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #15

    @clevfan4life said:

    we missed gordon in the redzone tonight. That small forward at wr tgat can outjump everyone. Landry's unguardable everywhere else but in the zone, we need more physicality. I know gordons coming back, but it would be nice to have both until we know if we got the old gordon or not.

    plus deep sets with dez and gordon would be sick

    Njoku and DeValve should be our redzone (at least 5 yard line and in)  go to guys.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    we missed gordon in the redzone tonight. That small forward at wr tgat can outjump everyone. Landry's unguardable everywhere else but in the zone, we need more physicality. I know gordons coming back, but it would be nice to have both until we know if we got the old gordon or not.

    plus deep sets with dez and gordon would be sick

    Njoku and DeValve should be our redzone (at least 5 yard line and in)  go to guys.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #16

    @the-gipper said:

    Njoku and DeValve should be our redzone (at least 5 yard line and in)  go to guys.

    And throw in Landry with TT or BM and call the PAT team.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Njoku and DeValve should be our redzone (at least 5 yard line and in)  go to guys.

    And throw in Landry with TT or BM and call the PAT team.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #17

    @mjp28 said:

    And throw in Landry with TT or BM and call the PAT team.

    Well...all the attempts to get the ball to Landry down there failed last night.  

  • @mjp28 said:

    And throw in Landry with TT or BM and call the PAT team.

    Well...all the attempts to get the ball to Landry down there failed last night.  

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #18

    @the-gipper said:

    Well...all the attempts to get the ball to Landry down there failed last night.  

    With an NFL record 400 catches in his first four years I don't think that will be a problem. 

      Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds      
    Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch APYd Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV
    Career       64 57 570 400 4038 10.1 22 71 6.3 63.1   26 119 1 22 4.6 1.9 0.4 562 6231 11.1 4157 23 14 33
    2014 22 MIA WR 14 16 11 112 84 758 9.0 5 25 5.3 47.4 75.0% 2 -4 0 4 -2.0 -0.3 0.1 145 1912 13.2 754 5 7 7
    2015* 23 MIA WR 14 16 14 166 110 1157 10.5 4 50 6.9 72.3 66.3% 18 113 1 22 6.3 7.1 1.1 177 1947 11.0 1270 5 1 9
    2016* 24 MIA WR 14 16 16 131 94 1136 12.1 4 71 5.9 71.0 71.8% 5 17 0 13 3.4 1.1 0.3 115 1316 11.4 1153 4 2 10
    2017* 25 MIA WR 14 16 16 161 112 987 8.8 9 49 7.0 61.7 69.6% 1 -7 0 -7 -7.0 -0.4 0.1 125 1056 8.4 980 9 4 7
  • @the-gipper said:

    Well...all the attempts to get the ball to Landry down there failed last night.  

    With an NFL record 400 catches in his first four years I don't think that will be a problem. 

      Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds      
    Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch APYd Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV
    Career       64 57 570 400 4038 10.1 22 71 6.3 63.1   26 119 1 22 4.6 1.9 0.4 562 6231 11.1 4157 23 14 33
    2014 22 MIA WR 14 16 11 112 84 758 9.0 5 25 5.3 47.4 75.0% 2 -4 0 4 -2.0 -0.3 0.1 145 1912 13.2 754 5 7 7
    2015* 23 MIA WR 14 16 14 166 110 1157 10.5 4 50 6.9 72.3 66.3% 18 113 1 22 6.3 7.1 1.1 177 1947 11.0 1270 5 1 9
    2016* 24 MIA WR 14 16 16 131 94 1136 12.1 4 71 5.9 71.0 71.8% 5 17 0 13 3.4 1.1 0.3 115 1316 11.4 1153 4 2 10
    2017* 25 MIA WR 14 16 16 161 112 987 8.8 9 49 7.0 61.7 69.6% 1 -7 0 -7 -7.0 -0.4 0.1 125 1056 8.4 980 9 4 7
    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #19

    @mjp28 said:

    With an NFL record 400 catches in his first four years I don't think that will be a problem. 

      Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds      
    Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch APYd Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV
    Career       64 57 570 400 4038 10.1 22 71 6.3 63.1   26 119 1 22 4.6 1.9 0.4 562 6231 11.1 4157 23 14 33
    2014 22 MIA WR 14 16 11 112 84 758 9.0 5 25 5.3 47.4 75.0% 2 -4 0 4 -2.0 -0.3 0.1 145 1912 13.2 754 5 7 7
    2015* 23 MIA WR 14 16 14 166 110 1157 10.5 4 50 6.9 72.3 66.3% 18 113 1 22 6.3 7.1 1.1 177 1947 11.0 1270 5 1 9
    2016* 24 MIA WR 14 16 16 131 94 1136 12.1 4 71 5.9 71.0 71.8% 5 17 0 13 3.4 1.1 0.3 115 1316 11.4 1153 4 2 10
    2017* 25 MIA WR 14 16 16 161 112 987 8.8 9 49 7.0 61.7 69.6% 1 -7 0 -7 -7.0 -0.4 0.1 125 1056 8.4 980 9 4 7

    I would hope not...though...except for last year, his TD totals not all that impressive.

  • @mjp28 said:

    With an NFL record 400 catches in his first four years I don't think that will be a problem. 

      Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds      
    Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch APYd Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV
    Career       64 57 570 400 4038 10.1 22 71 6.3 63.1   26 119 1 22 4.6 1.9 0.4 562 6231 11.1 4157 23 14 33
    2014 22 MIA WR 14 16 11 112 84 758 9.0 5 25 5.3 47.4 75.0% 2 -4 0 4 -2.0 -0.3 0.1 145 1912 13.2 754 5 7 7
    2015* 23 MIA WR 14 16 14 166 110 1157 10.5 4 50 6.9 72.3 66.3% 18 113 1 22 6.3 7.1 1.1 177 1947 11.0 1270 5 1 9
    2016* 24 MIA WR 14 16 16 131 94 1136 12.1 4 71 5.9 71.0 71.8% 5 17 0 13 3.4 1.1 0.3 115 1316 11.4 1153 4 2 10
    2017* 25 MIA WR 14 16 16 161 112 987 8.8 9 49 7.0 61.7 69.6% 1 -7 0 -7 -7.0 -0.4 0.1 125 1056 8.4 980 9 4 7

    I would hope not...though...except for last year, his TD totals not all that impressive.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #20

    @the-gipper said:

    I would hope not...though...except for last year, his TD totals not all that impressive.

    Yes he has been more of a possession move the chains guy, hopefully he will be a more important role with the still somewhat unsettled WR BROWNS team.

    Flash - long guy, Landry/Johnson the short, in between guys.

  • @mjp28 said:

    And throw in Landry with TT or BM and call the PAT team.

    Well...all the attempts to get the ball to Landry down there failed last night.  

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #21

    @the-gipper said:

    Well...all the attempts to get the ball to Landry down there failed last night.  

    I'm not sure their is a football team on Earth worse at throwing fades than the Browns, regardless of who is throwing them. 

  • LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by hoorta
    #22
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #23

    I vote "not to"...

  • I vote "not to"...

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #24

    @tour2ma said:

    I vote "not to"...

    Does "the dez" operate on three year cycles?

    ....Bryant is coming off three down seasons after registering at least 1,200 yards and 12 touchdowns in three straight campaigns from 2012-2014.....

    What a conundrum for the BROWNS, what do you offer and hope for with this dude? I think he's definitely in the Prima Donna class.

  • W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
    #25

    Will he accept the low offer? Will he accept his position as last man up? Can Callaway and Gordon keep their noses clean?

    WSS

  • KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
    #26

    He could be just doing what the last few FA have done...come..get paid...do nothing before you retire.

    Im sure veterans around the league were salivating until dorsey showed up

  • @tour2ma said:

    I vote "not to"...

    Does "the dez" operate on three year cycles?

    ....Bryant is coming off three down seasons after registering at least 1,200 yards and 12 touchdowns in three straight campaigns from 2012-2014.....

    What a conundrum for the BROWNS, what do you offer and hope for with this dude? I think he's definitely in the Prima Donna class.

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
    #27

    @mjp28 said:

    Does "the dez" operate on three year cycles?

     I think he's definitely in the Prima Donna class.

    Classic Mike Singletary has been working on 3 year cycles..  

      Now a LB coach at Rams..Take Dez off the list in LA 😁