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Avery and Nassib should be our LDE rotation

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    @sd_tom said:

    Avery looks very good so far. 

    is he o.k last I saw he left the field looked hurt

    @syd said:

    is he o.k last I saw he left the field looked hurt

    when did that happen? didnt see that at all but i do the micro jump ffw in between plays

  •  Kendricks continues to be given a few reps stunting at LDE also..2 good ballers Williams is moving around.Chris Smith played well behind Garrett also..

  • ogbah and orchard are superfluous at this point imo. Our edge D immediately tightens up when Nassib comes in. He's still "meh" as a pass rusher but Avery looks like he should see some serious time at LDE this year so we know what we need and dont need in next years draft. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    ogbah and orchard are superfluous at this point imo. Our edge D immediately tightens up when Nassib comes in. He's still "meh" as a pass rusher but Avery looks like he should see some serious time at LDE this year so we know what we need and dont need in next years draft. 

    I thought Avery played ILB, not DE.

  • I have looked but still can't find any thing new about wards back

  • @clevfan4life said:

    ogbah and orchard are superfluous at this point imo. Our edge D immediately tightens up when Nassib comes in. He's still "meh" as a pass rusher but Avery looks like he should see some serious time at LDE this year so we know what we need and dont need in next years draft. 

    I thought Avery played ILB, not DE.

    @the-gipper said:

    I thought Avery played ILB, not DE.

    He's all over.  His main opportunities this season and most likely moving forward will be as a 2pt pass rusher. 

  • Williams likes Avery as a pass rush specialist. He needs to rest that hammy because he's going to have a significant role on Sundays.

    Nassib is definitely on the bubble as is Orchard.

    Chris Smith and Chad Thomas will be on the roster.

    Zombo

  • sydS syd

    I have looked but still can't find any thing new about wards back

    @syd said:

    I have looked but still can't find any thing new about wards back

    MRI scheduled for today.

  • @syd said:

    I have looked but still can't find any thing new about wards back

    MRI scheduled for today.

    @canton-dawg said:

    MRI scheduled for today.

    damn hope all go's well

    side note : surprised hue didn't try to put him back into the game

  • sydS syd

    @canton-dawg said:

    MRI scheduled for today.

    damn hope all go's well

    side note : surprised hue didn't try to put him back into the game

    @syd said:

    damn hope all go's well

    side note : surprised hue didn't try to put him back into the game

    better days ahead syd..you can bet some browns players watch hard knocks..When Haley & bless'em call this team was soft..you can bet the culture is changing behind those locker-room doors..Doc clears them to play.These guys want to ball..

  • @syd said:

    I have looked but still can't find any thing new about wards back

    MRI scheduled for today.

    @canton-dawg said:

    MRI scheduled for today.

    Reports are out that Avery's injury is a Hip..Hue's not a doctor(but likes anna & lynnic health flow charts) but Hopes to get Avery back by Week 1 ⛑️ ?

  • @canton-dawg said:

    MRI scheduled for today.

    Reports are out that Avery's injury is a Hip..Hue's not a doctor(but likes anna & lynnic health flow charts) but Hopes to get Avery back by Week 1 ⛑️ ?

    @gumby73 said:

    Reports are out that Avery's injury is a Hip..Hue's not a doctor(but likes anna & lynnic health charts) but Hopes to get Avery back by Week 1 ⛑️ ?

    I heard Hue say in his presser that TT shouldn’t miss any time, and Ward will miss a little time.

  • @gumby73 said:

    Reports are out that Avery's injury is a Hip..Hue's not a doctor(but likes anna & lynnic health charts) but Hopes to get Avery back by Week 1 ⛑️ ?

    I heard Hue say in his presser that TT shouldn’t miss any time, and Ward will miss a little time.

    @canton-dawg said:

    I heard Hue say in his presser that TT shouldn’t miss any time, and Ward will miss a little time.

    If hue was not a QB whispering idiot, it's the perfect time at practice to get Baker a few more reps with the 1's..but here comes Gordon practicing Saturday..I'll be watching the practice tweets (yawn,,,,what a life of a browns fan )

  • honestly I do not want hue anywhere  around Mayfield I feel he would do more damage than good

  • sydS syd

    honestly I do not want hue anywhere  around Mayfield I feel he would do more damage than good

    @syd said:

    honestly I do not want hue anywhere  around Mayfield I feel he would do more damage than good

    Exactly, Kizer didn’t stand a chance.

  • Williams likes Avery as a pass rush specialist. He needs to rest that hammy because he's going to have a significant role on Sundays.

    Nassib is definitely on the bubble as is Orchard.

    Chris Smith and Chad Thomas will be on the roster.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Williams likes Avery as a pass rush specialist. He needs to rest that hammy because he's going to have a significant role on Sundays.

    Nassib is definitely on the bubble as is Orchard.

    Chris Smith and Chad Thomas will be on the roster.

    Zombo

    Orchard had a pretty bad game last week.  He seriously needs to show off some pass rushing abilities, like quick, or he is on the way out. Guy can't make an open field tackle, and sets the edge pretty poorly.

    My guess is he is on his way out.

  • Orchard hasn’t done anything since he’s been here other than cash his check 

  • sydS syd

    honestly I do not want hue anywhere  around Mayfield I feel he would do more damage than good

    @syd said:

    honestly I do not want hue anywhere  around Mayfield I feel he would do more damage than good

    I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that one Syd but I'll guarantee you're not alone.  All we can do if he does get close is hope it's the Hue that got the best football out of Dalton in their 12-4 season.  David Carr recently brought up on the NFL Channel that Cincy's offense and Dalton haven't been the same since Hue left.  True or not, that's the coping mechanism I need to keep when it comes to Hue. 

    At least he hired Haley and let him install his offense.  I think I'm pumped about that.  Although watching us throw 4 passes after we got 1st and goal at the 1 yard line felt a lot like seeing a deer cross in front of me on the highway at the last split second while traveling 65 mph.   These bunched up cross/rub routes with that little room to maneuver didn't need to be called twice in a row.  Those didn't work all game even with more room.  In previous games, we've been flagged on those for offensive interference as we should have been.  Hopefully that's all trial and error stuff he boycotts when the regular season opens. 

  • ogbah and orchard are superfluous at this point imo. Our edge D immediately tightens up when Nassib comes in. He's still "meh" as a pass rusher but Avery looks like he should see some serious time at LDE this year so we know what we need and dont need in next years draft. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    ogbah and orchard are superfluous at this point imo. Our edge D immediately tightens up when Nassib comes in. He's still "meh" as a pass rusher but Avery looks like he should see some serious time at LDE this year so we know what we need and dont need in next years draft. 

    Since when has our edge D tightened up when Nassib came in?   That's a frat boy keg party commentary.  Look, I'll be the first to tell you I enjoy Nassib on Hard Knocks.  His college coach described him as not NFL material while Williams described Ogbah as excellent against the run as does PFF no matter how much Sigma Tappa Kegsies disagrees.

    Yes, Ogbah hasn't looked the same since a foot injury put him on IR last year.  Then again, did Myles Garrett playing on a pogo stick look anything like the healthy version we're watching this pre-season?  Hell no!  If you didn't see massive improvement in Ogbah last year - it's because you didn't want to or you predicted he'd suck so he needs to....  Sometimes, you also have to factor in Hue will x-stunt one of his defensive ends which excuses the DE from outside contain on that assignment.   That's not him free lancing or getting pushed/sucked inside - that's him playing TEAM defense his coordinator is asking of him.  When that happens, he has to trust someone else takes on the outside contain leverage.  I don't need you to recite what your last football coach taught you as if no-one else on this board ever played football or attended countless football camps.  None of that is required anyway if you're a football junkie.

    I'm glad we have guys that can step up but it sure seems like injuries keep phucking with the momentum of guys showing progress whether it's Ogbah last year or this brand new version of Lawrence Taylor we just power stealthed out of round 5.  Orchard's career never launched after closing his rookie year strong when he finally got action. The next 2 years he landed on IR to stunt his growth and development further.  His window of opportunity under a new regime is slamming closed as we speak. The main thing is we have some guys that can play; and more of them than you're willing to give credit to.  

  • Orchard hasn’t done anything since he’s been here other than cash his check 

    @7moses7 said:

    Orchard hasn’t done anything since he’s been here other than cash his check 

    I cringe every time he substitutes for Garrett because I know they will run right over him if they have a lick of sense. I think he has the right spirit of a Brown, but just not the talent to go with it.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    ogbah and orchard are superfluous at this point imo. Our edge D immediately tightens up when Nassib comes in. He's still "meh" as a pass rusher but Avery looks like he should see some serious time at LDE this year so we know what we need and dont need in next years draft. 

    Since when has our edge D tightened up when Nassib came in?   That's a frat boy keg party commentary.  Look, I'll be the first to tell you I enjoy Nassib on Hard Knocks.  His college coach described him as not NFL material while Williams described Ogbah as excellent against the run as does PFF no matter how much Sigma Tappa Kegsies disagrees.

    Yes, Ogbah hasn't looked the same since a foot injury put him on IR last year.  Then again, did Myles Garrett playing on a pogo stick look anything like the healthy version we're watching this pre-season?  Hell no!  If you didn't see massive improvement in Ogbah last year - it's because you didn't want to or you predicted he'd suck so he needs to....  Sometimes, you also have to factor in Hue will x-stunt one of his defensive ends which excuses the DE from outside contain on that assignment.   That's not him free lancing or getting pushed/sucked inside - that's him playing TEAM defense his coordinator is asking of him.  When that happens, he has to trust someone else takes on the outside contain leverage.  I don't need you to recite what your last football coach taught you as if no-one else on this board ever played football or attended countless football camps.  None of that is required anyway if you're a football junkie.

    I'm glad we have guys that can step up but it sure seems like injuries keep phucking with the momentum of guys showing progress whether it's Ogbah last year or this brand new version of Lawrence Taylor we just power stealthed out of round 5.  Orchard's career never launched after closing his rookie year strong when he finally got action. The next 2 years he landed on IR to stunt his growth and development further.  His window of opportunity under a new regime is slamming closed as we speak. The main thing is we have some guys that can play; and more of them than you're willing to give credit to.  

    @flugel said:

    Since when has our edge D tightened up when Nassib came in?  

    like i previously described...he fights upfield and gets the stack. Often he can shed as well and obstruct the runner, but he almost always forces the runner inside. Thats what the edge is supposed to do. Ive been listening for 3 years now about how thats not ogbahs job, yet when nassib comes in its noq the LDE's job?

    Ur a coach flugel, if u see one of ur edge defenders  jersey number while a run is breaking to the outside dont u chew him out fir getting turn blocked?