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How many wins does it take to make it tyrods team.

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  • Bigalow80 B
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    B Bigalow80 wrote on last edited by
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    If everything goes according to plan, then I would assume next year would be the year. The Browns are going to have to make some big decisions though as free agency is going to come into play. I will be curious to see how much TT has to do to get tagged. He's the only one on the list below whose probably worth the tag unless Robinson plays out of his mind at LT.  Also, the Browns could tag TT, just so they can try to trade him to someone else. With a very weak upcoming qb draft class, if there is a team out there that is desperate, it's possible to get at least the 3rd they gave up for him. However, the Browns will need to make a decision on how they are going to approach the Gordon contract and some of the younger guys as well such as Higgins, BBC, coley to name a few.

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/2019/all/cleveland-browns/

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      @babernakle said:

      As I see it from snap one there will be fan boys in the stands chanting baker, baker, baker.  Because there stupid and there football knowledge is low he’s not better than ty and probably never will be, as I see it,  But if ty goes out and beats the Steelers once and then goes 4 and 4 through the first half is it then his team.  Will fan boy shut his mouth.  What if ty takes the team to a wild card does baker become trade bait. Will we stay with him. 

      Nope, you would never trade the #1 overall pick after one year. Don't forget Rodgers sat behind Farve for several seasons. AND Baker has given every indication to this point he doesn't suck. Taylor will be the one who will leave. If Ty lights it up this year, he's going to be the one in line for a big payday.

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      B Babernakle wrote on last edited by
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      Nope, you would never trade the #1 overall pick after one year. Don't forget Rodgers sat behind Farve for several seasons. AND Baker has given every indication to this point he doesn't suck. Taylor will be the one who will leave. If Ty lights it up this year, he's going to be the one in line for a big payday.

      If ty lights it up they would be fooling not to trade him and get another need I believe in ty not only to win but not to lose. And it’s not like ty is at the end of his career. 16 million is a lot to not play him but ........ rg3, Kenny Britt. Let’s remember bakers has only played against 2’s and 3’s

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        Nope, you would never trade the #1 overall pick after one year. Don't forget Rodgers sat behind Farve for several seasons. AND Baker has given every indication to this point he doesn't suck. Taylor will be the one who will leave. If Ty lights it up this year, he's going to be the one in line for a big payday.

        If ty lights it up they would be fooling not to trade him and get another need I believe in ty not only to win but not to lose. And it’s not like ty is at the end of his career. 16 million is a lot to not play him but ........ rg3, Kenny Britt. Let’s remember bakers has only played against 2’s and 3’s

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        FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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        @babernakle said:

        Let’s remember bakers has only played against 2’s and 3’s

        Yeah, that's what Kurt Warner did with the Rams in 98 until Trent Green got hurt in the 99 preseason.  Then, he got to hand off to Marshall Faulk; and throw to Faulk, Holt and Bruce with help from Orlando Pace and the starting offensive line.  When he was playing with the 2s and 3s (against 2s and 3s) before that - nobody saw a guy ready to be a League MVP...   

        They went from worst in 98 to first in 99; so you can imagine the chance to succeed in that situation improved considerably when Warner got to work with the best players on a roster.  We're coming off a last place finish and we signed an experienced starter Tyrod Taylor (like the Rams signed Trent Green). In that 1 off season the Rams also drafted Holt, signed Faulk and finally got Ike Bruce to show up without a lingering hammy or groin pull.  This year we added a lot of play makers while we're hoping to finally get Gordon to play a full season.  Our off season response this time around resembled a lot of the efforts the Rams made in 1 year to jumper cable themselves back on the NFL Map.

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          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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          Unless this season is 2007 all over again, I just can't see Tyrod Taylor on a one year deal keeping the #1 pick with 40+ college starts off the field for more than maybe half the season. 

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            Unless this season is 2007 all over again, I just can't see Tyrod Taylor on a one year deal keeping the #1 pick with 40+ college starts off the field for more than maybe half the season. 

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            @dutch-oven said:

            Unless this season is 2007 all over again, I just can't see Tyrod Taylor on a one year deal keeping the #1 pick with 40+ college starts off the field for more than maybe half the season. 

            Me either Dutch or we wouldn't have prioritized QB at the 1st pick overall after we brought Tyrod here.

            Just to piggyback a little here. When you think about it, even a cerebral QB like Bernie Kosar didn't start the first 6 games of his NFL career.  He sat behind an experienced QB at the very back end of Danielson's career. What else did we do in 85?   We surrounded the QBs with a strong running game where 2 RBs rushed for over 1000 yards apiece as we won the division with an 8-8 record.  Then we hired Infante in 86 with a plan to bury the blitz via 122 receptions from 4 different RBs to keep Kosar healthy and highly efficient in his 2nd year.  In the process we improved to 12-4 in 86.  

            It was good for Kosar to see from the sideline when the Vanilla Defenses went away as soon as the regular season started - how many different alignments, schemes and disguises a QB could be seeing ASIDE from finally having his own playbook at a comfort zone.   I'd rather begin the year with an experienced QB that has already seen the difference between pre-season Vanilla and regular season complexity.  Like Baker reminds us, he learned a lot as a red shirt in college where the complexity of defenses at that level doesn't even compare to the NFL.  That said, I don't think it needs to be more than 6-8 weeks unless Tyrod has some sort of dream season we shouldn't mess with.  The Danielson to Kosar time frame seems sensible IMO.

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              D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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              Barring injury, at the end of the day it will come down to the number in the wins column..... The more that are there and Tyrod will play every snap of every game. 

              Here's to hoping we don't see Baker once this season. 

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                GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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                Dude, don't be a jackoff. This is Baker's team. Tyrod is black Tarkenton. His job is to get hurt, and he will because he is a run-first RG3 clone. He is already hurt because of his running. His job is to play 4 games or more. At 8, he gets pulled and he is done. He Blows.

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                  OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                  How many wins does it take to make it tyrods team.

                  Probably the same number it takes for Hue to KEEP it as HIS team.

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                  • GhoolieG Ghoolie

                    Dude, don't be a jackoff. This is Baker's team. Tyrod is black Tarkenton. His job is to get hurt, and he will because he is a run-first RG3 clone. He is already hurt because of his running. His job is to play 4 games or more. At 8, he gets pulled and he is done. He Blows.

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                    Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                    @ghoolie said:

                    Dude, don't be a jackoff. This is Baker's team. Tyrod is black Tarkenton. His job is to get hurt, and he will because he is a run-first RG3 clone. He is already hurt because of his running. His job is to play 4 games or more. At 8, he gets pulled and he is done. He Blows.

                    I do agree with the bolded statements. Ideally, Baker needs to watch REAL (not vanilla) NFL D's before being thrown in to the fray & I think the time frame Ghoolie mentioned is very realistic.

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                      • GhoolieG Ghoolie

                        Dude, don't be a jackoff. This is Baker's team. Tyrod is black Tarkenton. His job is to get hurt, and he will because he is a run-first RG3 clone. He is already hurt because of his running. His job is to play 4 games or more. At 8, he gets pulled and he is done. He Blows.

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                        @ghoolie said:

                        Dude, don't be a jackoff. This is Baker's team. Tyrod is black Tarkenton. His job is to get hurt, and he will because he is a run-first RG3 clone. He is already hurt because of his running. His job is to play 4 games or more. At 8, he gets pulled and he is done. He Blows.

                        And too many of you continue to feed this jackoff troll. Shame

                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                          @ghoolie said:

                          Dude, don't be a jackoff. This is Baker's team. Tyrod is black Tarkenton. His job is to get hurt, and he will because he is a run-first RG3 clone. He is already hurt because of his running. His job is to play 4 games or more. At 8, he gets pulled and he is done. He Blows.

                          And too many of you continue to feed this jackoff troll. Shame

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                          mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                          @mld-woody said:

                          And too many of you continue to feed this jackoff troll. Shame

                          Yeah it gets too tempting at times to poke a stick at the idiot Quasimodo to see what he comes up with next. 😆

                          GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                            @ghoolie said:

                            Dude, don't be a jackoff. This is Baker's team. Tyrod is black Tarkenton. His job is to get hurt, and he will because he is a run-first RG3 clone. He is already hurt because of his running. His job is to play 4 games or more. At 8, he gets pulled and he is done. He Blows.

                            And too many of you continue to feed this jackoff troll. Shame

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            @mld-woody said:

                            And too many of you continue to feed this jackoff troll. Shame

                            Well you are also a jack off troll and we feed you so don’t feel so bad

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                              @mld-woody said:

                              And too many of you continue to feed this jackoff troll. Shame

                              Well you are also a jack off troll and we feed you so don’t feel so bad

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              @the-gipper said:

                              Well you are also a jack off troll and we feed you so don’t feel so bad

                              This was a very poor attempt at trolling on your part

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                                @the-gipper said:

                                Well you are also a jack off troll and we feed you so don’t feel so bad

                                This was a very poor attempt at trolling on your part

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @mld-woody said:

                                This was a very poor attempt at trolling on your part

                                No just telling the truth as it is sorry if you can’t comprehend it 

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                                  Z... you're on fire man...

                                  As for the OP....

                                  I think we have to start at least 2-2. Baker's coming on and will get a lot of PT in 4th preseason game. Of course 2-2 is good enough to be "in the hunt" for a playoff spot, but some of how we lose the 2 will come into play.

                                  Obviously a better record, being over .500 after 4 games, would lock TT in for a good while.

                                  A lesser record? 0-4 would prompt the change. 1-3? Depends on the "quality" of the loses to some extent, but if our being "flat" played a role, then (not than... 😉 ) we go to the bullpen. If HK has taught us nothing else it's that TT is a quiet leader whereas Baker can be a firestarter...

                                  ... just like Z.

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                                  hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  Z... you're on fire man...

                                  As for the OP....

                                  I think we have to start at least 2-2. Baker's coming on and will get a lot of PT in 4th preseason game. Of course 2-2 is good enough to be "in the hunt" for a playoff spot, but some of how we lose the 2 will come into play.

                                  Obviously a better record, being over .500 after 4 games, would lock TT in for a good while.

                                  A lesser record? 0-4 would prompt the change. 1-3? Depends on the "quality" of the loses to some extent, but if our being "flat" played a role, then (not than... 😉 ) we go to the bullpen. If HK has taught us nothing else it's that TT is a quiet leader whereas Baker can be a firestarter...

                                  ... just like Z.

                                  An 0-4 record may prompt a change in the Head Coach too Tour. 0-6 and Huey is gone. 

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                                    Look, you dumb bastards, if you think Black Tarkenton is going to stay healthy for 8 games on this dink-and-dump offense, you are bigger jackoffs than even I think you are.

                                    This is NOT EVER, NOT IN A MILLION PRETEND LIFETIMES that you jackoffs live in, going to be Black Tarkenton's team. Blow-Rod is here to do one thing, and one thing only.....get the snot knocked out of him, maybe win a few games, and then take residency at the House of crippled quarterbacks. 

                                    YOu think this is similar to Rodgers and FAVRE? HOO HOOOO HAAAA HAAAAA LMAO........ PIXXING MY PANTS LAUGHING AT THIS HORSE-SCHIDT. BLO-ROD = FAVRE? LMAO.

                                    Oh hell yeah, Blo Rod is so good Buffalo showed his axx the door and palmed him off on Cleveland. Favre? BLO ROD? HOOO HOOOO HAAAA WHEEEEEEE HEEEE HEEEEE HAAAAAAAA. Yeah, man, he is a real SB wunderkind. EVERYONE was lining up to catch BLO ROD being pinched out of Buffalo's AXX......there was a real feeding frenzy for this gem.

                                    Good grief man, he is here as a sacrifice. To buy time for Mayfield to take over. THAT IS BLO ROD's ONLY PURPOSE. 

                                    SO............................. HOW WILL HUE KEEP HIM HEALTHY?

                                    DINK AND DUMP OFFENSE.  DINK AND DUMP    DINK AND DUMP. That's Hue.

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                                      First and foremost, "wins" are what will determine Tyrod's length of stay behind center above all else.  That being said, the other factor will be how many plays Tyrod MISSES.  Just listening to the game breakdown and my own personal observations, Tyrod missed a BUNCH of plays on Thursday.  He missed Njoku on a seam pass where Njoku completely turned his man around and was so open with only a deep safety left to beat.  One missed tackle and it's a LONG TD, at worst it's a 30 yard gain.  Tyrod missed Higgins TWICE on the infamous "4 straight passes from the 1" debacle, and he had a terrible deep floating knuckleball to Landry that wasn't within 20 feet down the sideline.  We know that no QB makes every play, but Tyrod missed virtually every big play available in his limited time.  

                                      If Tyrod is "winning", and has like a 3-4 record through the first 7 games, it's likely we never see Baker until we're mathematically eliminated.  My guess has always been that we'll see Baker during the last 4 games, but if we're somehow still in playoff contention (stop laughing), I don't think we'll see Baker unless there's an injury.  I really don't.  

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                                        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                        I don't care who is QB as long as we are winning.

                                        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                          Look, you dumb bastards, if you think Black Tarkenton is going to stay healthy for 8 games on this dink-and-dump offense, you are bigger jackoffs than even I think you are.

                                          This is NOT EVER, NOT IN A MILLION PRETEND LIFETIMES that you jackoffs live in, going to be Black Tarkenton's team. Blow-Rod is here to do one thing, and one thing only.....get the snot knocked out of him, maybe win a few games, and then take residency at the House of crippled quarterbacks. 

                                          YOu think this is similar to Rodgers and FAVRE? HOO HOOOO HAAAA HAAAAA LMAO........ PIXXING MY PANTS LAUGHING AT THIS HORSE-SCHIDT. BLO-ROD = FAVRE? LMAO.

                                          Oh hell yeah, Blo Rod is so good Buffalo showed his axx the door and palmed him off on Cleveland. Favre? BLO ROD? HOOO HOOOO HAAAA WHEEEEEEE HEEEE HEEEEE HAAAAAAAA. Yeah, man, he is a real SB wunderkind. EVERYONE was lining up to catch BLO ROD being pinched out of Buffalo's AXX......there was a real feeding frenzy for this gem.

                                          Good grief man, he is here as a sacrifice. To buy time for Mayfield to take over. THAT IS BLO ROD's ONLY PURPOSE. 

                                          SO............................. HOW WILL HUE KEEP HIM HEALTHY?

                                          DINK AND DUMP OFFENSE.  DINK AND DUMP    DINK AND DUMP. That's Hue.

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                                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                          @ghoolie said:

                                          Look, you dumb bastards, if you think Black Tarkenton is going to stay healthy for 8 games on this dink-and-dump offense, you are bigger jackoffs than even I think you are.

                                          This is NOT EVER, NOT IN A MILLION PRETEND LIFETIMES that you jackoffs live in, going to be Black Tarkenton's team. Blow-Rod is here to do one thing, and one thing only.....get the snot knocked out of him, maybe win a few games, and then take residency at the House of crippled quarterbacks. 

                                          YOu think this is similar to Rodgers and FAVRE? HOO HOOOO HAAAA HAAAAA LMAO........ PIXXING MY PANTS LAUGHING AT THIS HORSE-SCHIDT. BLO-ROD = FAVRE? LMAO.

                                          Oh hell yeah, Blo Rod is so good Buffalo showed his axx the door and palmed him off on Cleveland. Favre? BLO ROD? HOOO HOOOO HAAAA WHEEEEEEE HEEEE HEEEEE HAAAAAAAA. Yeah, man, he is a real SB wunderkind. EVERYONE was lining up to catch BLO ROD being pinched out of Buffalo's AXX......there was a real feeding frenzy for this gem.

                                          Good grief man, he is here as a sacrifice. To buy time for Mayfield to take over. THAT IS BLO ROD's ONLY PURPOSE. 

                                          SO............................. HOW WILL HUE KEEP HIM HEALTHY?

                                          DINK AND DUMP OFFENSE.  DINK AND DUMP    DINK AND DUMP. That's Hue.

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