OUR "Hard Knocks" Thread
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watched the last 2 episodes last night...found them on a torrent site. Here's my takes from them...
1) Im not sure Haley gives a fuk about Gordon, I think he wants Dez in the building as might Dorsey. Im honestly shocked at how well Dez seemed to be received yet nothing came of it. Gotta have something to do with Hue's boner for Gordon.....
2) Nassib made the cut. I chronicled the solo run plays he made against the eagles starters in the 1st half of that game. He's a lock. Orchard.....yeah I dunno. I think Orchards future with the Browns may depend on Avery.
3) I fukkin love the sht between haley and Williams. Fuk this ghoolie sht about those guys being Hue's coffee fetchers. Not only is that kind of disrespectful...it kind of diminishes how cool this hard knocks is for the Browns.
4) Following up on that last part in 3, it would be fukkin righteous if the Browns produced a show and broadcast it locally for us yearly. Essentially the same kind of format. This would be awesome for the brand. If it's locally broadcast, I don't see why the NFL wouldn't let any teams do this for their fanbase.
5) Garrett is on his way to greatness if he stays healthy. That man's skillset is "elite". Power, speed, strength, hands...it's all there. I talked in another thread about issues I saw with some of our other DE's getting arms collapsed...in that last episode of the eagles game, there's awesome footage of Myles holding off the OL with one arm so he can use his other arm to disengage quickly. Since im not going to rehash this argument in another thread, if you have the game still on tape...watch how the eagles used just their receiving TE to block the left side while they were trying to help their RT with garrett. Kendricks in his scouting report in epi 4 said Ertz is bullsht if you get up into him...yet #86 is exactly who they used to block the LDE. I'll leave it there.
6) as hopeful as I am of things turning around, I don't think we all should get too excited about potential wins. The offense isn't there. The defense will be good early but will tire out as the season wears on. They're gonna be out there "a lot". They may outright win us a few games. Hopefully we can run the ball well and keep them off the field. But points wise, I don't think we should be expecting any high octane offense even with a guy like Landry. The big plays are gonna happen when teams bring more into the box and Landry can sneak behind them. Maybe Gordon changes that equation if he's right....but im not calculating him into anything I see. I can't. It absolutely sucks that we didn't have him in camp so we can see where we're truly at with our WR's. It's possible we could have had talks with Dez earlier and had time to groom a trio of Dez, Gordon and Landry with some real nice young talent in Calloway coming in. Gordon's sht kind of fuks us again for the umpteenth time. I love the guy....I feel for the guy, but god dammit.
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Problem is Garett doesn't really want to be in Cleveland. Guarantee he will be gone when he is eligible.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Problem is Garett doesn't really want to be in Cleveland. Guarantee he will be gone when he is eligible.
Problem is Garett doesn't really want to be in Cleveland. Guarantee he will be gone when he is eligible.
I don't think so. Garrett will stay if the Browns are looking like a team worth staying for. He's a pretty loyal guy.
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watched the last 2 episodes last night...found them on a torrent site. Here's my takes from them...
1) Im not sure Haley gives a fuk about Gordon, I think he wants Dez in the building as might Dorsey. Im honestly shocked at how well Dez seemed to be received yet nothing came of it. Gotta have something to do with Hue's boner for Gordon.....
2) Nassib made the cut. I chronicled the solo run plays he made against the eagles starters in the 1st half of that game. He's a lock. Orchard.....yeah I dunno. I think Orchards future with the Browns may depend on Avery.
3) I fukkin love the sht between haley and Williams. Fuk this ghoolie sht about those guys being Hue's coffee fetchers. Not only is that kind of disrespectful...it kind of diminishes how cool this hard knocks is for the Browns.
4) Following up on that last part in 3, it would be fukkin righteous if the Browns produced a show and broadcast it locally for us yearly. Essentially the same kind of format. This would be awesome for the brand. If it's locally broadcast, I don't see why the NFL wouldn't let any teams do this for their fanbase.
5) Garrett is on his way to greatness if he stays healthy. That man's skillset is "elite". Power, speed, strength, hands...it's all there. I talked in another thread about issues I saw with some of our other DE's getting arms collapsed...in that last episode of the eagles game, there's awesome footage of Myles holding off the OL with one arm so he can use his other arm to disengage quickly. Since im not going to rehash this argument in another thread, if you have the game still on tape...watch how the eagles used just their receiving TE to block the left side while they were trying to help their RT with garrett. Kendricks in his scouting report in epi 4 said Ertz is bullsht if you get up into him...yet #86 is exactly who they used to block the LDE. I'll leave it there.
6) as hopeful as I am of things turning around, I don't think we all should get too excited about potential wins. The offense isn't there. The defense will be good early but will tire out as the season wears on. They're gonna be out there "a lot". They may outright win us a few games. Hopefully we can run the ball well and keep them off the field. But points wise, I don't think we should be expecting any high octane offense even with a guy like Landry. The big plays are gonna happen when teams bring more into the box and Landry can sneak behind them. Maybe Gordon changes that equation if he's right....but im not calculating him into anything I see. I can't. It absolutely sucks that we didn't have him in camp so we can see where we're truly at with our WR's. It's possible we could have had talks with Dez earlier and had time to groom a trio of Dez, Gordon and Landry with some real nice young talent in Calloway coming in. Gordon's sht kind of fuks us again for the umpteenth time. I love the guy....I feel for the guy, but god dammit.
4) Following up on that last part in 3, it would be fukkin righteous if the Browns produced a show and broadcast it locally for us yearly. Essentially the same kind of format. This would be awesome for the brand. If it's locally broadcast, I don't see why the NFL wouldn't let any teams do this for their fanbase.
There is the local show on STO called 'Building the Browns'.
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Just watched episode 4. Haley isn’t a fan of Gordon AT ALL. Even caught himself before he said something direct about him to Landry about.... “We can’t hope for..... ...someone to come in and save us” That’s the second time I’ve noticed it. First was when Hue was so excited about Gordon getting off the plane in Cleveland and Haley said in a “meh” voice..... “has he been working out?”
Can’t say I blame him.
Wylie needs his own show. His face when Myles Garrett had his old school music on... haha. “Turn that F—-in music off!!!”
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Problem is Garett doesn't really want to be in Cleveland. Guarantee he will be gone when he is eligible.
Problem is Garett doesn't really want to be in Cleveland. Guarantee he will be gone when he is eligible.
cause isn't he French and wants to play in the cfl
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Just watched episode 4. Haley isn’t a fan of Gordon AT ALL. Even caught himself before he said something direct about him to Landry about.... “We can’t hope for..... ...someone to come in and save us” That’s the second time I’ve noticed it. First was when Hue was so excited about Gordon getting off the plane in Cleveland and Haley said in a “meh” voice..... “has he been working out?”
Can’t say I blame him.
Wylie needs his own show. His face when Myles Garrett had his old school music on... haha. “Turn that F—-in music off!!!”
Just watched episode 4. Haley isn’t a fan of Gordon AT ALL. Even caught himself before he said something direct about him to Landry about.... “We can’t hope for..... ...someone to come in and save us” That’s the second time I’ve noticed it. First was when Hue was so excited about Gordon getting off the plane in Cleveland and Haley said in a “meh” voice..... “has he been working out?”
Can’t say I blame him.
Wylie needs his own show. His face when Myles Garrett had his old school music on... haha. “Turn that F—-in music off!!!”
oh yeah that interaction between hue and haley was super awkward. I understand haley completely too. And if hue convinced the brass to hold off on signing dez cause his boycrush was coming back, thats gonna end badly berween him and haley.
srsly, hues crush on gordon is super awkward
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I liked Jarvis doing a little one-on-one with Callaway, but hope I didn't see what looks like Landry disconnecting when things didn't go his way in the Eagles game.
The rookie skits were hilarious, the Jarvis impersonation was specifically great.
I really hope that the scene where Hue asks Nate Orchard if he's praying, and that he should be, was just creative editing, because if not that's a pretty finger thing to say.
There appears to be ZERO chemistry between Hue and Mayfield. Any interaction between the two seems incredibly forced.
Man, it is difficult to watch that episode and not get excited about Garrett's future.
There appears to be ZERO chemistry between Hue and Mayfield. Any interaction between the two seems incredibly forced.
I get the impression Mayfield has his own way of handling superiors. Almost like he wants to treat them as equals in some respects instead of superiors, yet still knows his place, if that makes any sense.
I think back to the scene in episode 1 of HK where he’s getting ready to sign his contract and kinda ribs Dorsey to the camera with his “oh, he broke out the Browns sweatshirt for this” comment.
I figure it’s all part of his uber confidence schtick, and l’m not really sure this approach to interacting with superiors that way is a good or bad thing in the long run, but l figure it’s bound to rub some superiors the wrong way.
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4) Following up on that last part in 3, it would be fukkin righteous if the Browns produced a show and broadcast it locally for us yearly. Essentially the same kind of format. This would be awesome for the brand. If it's locally broadcast, I don't see why the NFL wouldn't let any teams do this for their fanbase.
There is the local show on STO called 'Building the Browns'.
There is the local show on STO called 'Building the Browns'.
did they stilp do it this year with hard knocks in town? have they been doing this show every year?
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There is the local show on STO called 'Building the Browns'.
did they stilp do it this year with hard knocks in town? have they been doing this show every year?
did they stilp do it this year with hard knocks in town? have they been doing this show every year?
I'm pretty sure they still do it.
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watched the last 2 episodes last night...found them on a torrent site. Here's my takes from them...
1) Im not sure Haley gives a fuk about Gordon, I think he wants Dez in the building as might Dorsey. Im honestly shocked at how well Dez seemed to be received yet nothing came of it. Gotta have something to do with Hue's boner for Gordon.....
2) Nassib made the cut. I chronicled the solo run plays he made against the eagles starters in the 1st half of that game. He's a lock. Orchard.....yeah I dunno. I think Orchards future with the Browns may depend on Avery.
3) I fukkin love the sht between haley and Williams. Fuk this ghoolie sht about those guys being Hue's coffee fetchers. Not only is that kind of disrespectful...it kind of diminishes how cool this hard knocks is for the Browns.
4) Following up on that last part in 3, it would be fukkin righteous if the Browns produced a show and broadcast it locally for us yearly. Essentially the same kind of format. This would be awesome for the brand. If it's locally broadcast, I don't see why the NFL wouldn't let any teams do this for their fanbase.
5) Garrett is on his way to greatness if he stays healthy. That man's skillset is "elite". Power, speed, strength, hands...it's all there. I talked in another thread about issues I saw with some of our other DE's getting arms collapsed...in that last episode of the eagles game, there's awesome footage of Myles holding off the OL with one arm so he can use his other arm to disengage quickly. Since im not going to rehash this argument in another thread, if you have the game still on tape...watch how the eagles used just their receiving TE to block the left side while they were trying to help their RT with garrett. Kendricks in his scouting report in epi 4 said Ertz is bullsht if you get up into him...yet #86 is exactly who they used to block the LDE. I'll leave it there.
6) as hopeful as I am of things turning around, I don't think we all should get too excited about potential wins. The offense isn't there. The defense will be good early but will tire out as the season wears on. They're gonna be out there "a lot". They may outright win us a few games. Hopefully we can run the ball well and keep them off the field. But points wise, I don't think we should be expecting any high octane offense even with a guy like Landry. The big plays are gonna happen when teams bring more into the box and Landry can sneak behind them. Maybe Gordon changes that equation if he's right....but im not calculating him into anything I see. I can't. It absolutely sucks that we didn't have him in camp so we can see where we're truly at with our WR's. It's possible we could have had talks with Dez earlier and had time to groom a trio of Dez, Gordon and Landry with some real nice young talent in Calloway coming in. Gordon's sht kind of fuks us again for the umpteenth time. I love the guy....I feel for the guy, but god dammit.
watched the last 2 episodes last night...found them on a torrent site. Here's my takes from them...
1) Im not sure Haley gives a fuk about Gordon, I think he wants Dez in the building as might Dorsey. Im honestly shocked at how well Dez seemed to be received yet nothing came of it. Gotta have something to do with Hue's boner for Gordon.....
2) Nassib made the cut. I chronicled the solo run plays he made against the eagles starters in the 1st half of that game. He's a lock. Orchard.....yeah I dunno. I think Orchards future with the Browns may depend on Avery.
3) I fukkin love the sht between haley and Williams. Fuk this ghoolie sht about those guys being Hue's coffee fetchers. Not only is that kind of disrespectful...it kind of diminishes how cool this hard knocks is for the Browns.
4) Following up on that last part in 3, it would be fukkin righteous if the Browns produced a show and broadcast it locally for us yearly. Essentially the same kind of format. This would be awesome for the brand. If it's locally broadcast, I don't see why the NFL wouldn't let any teams do this for their fanbase.
5) Garrett is on his way to greatness if he stays healthy. That man's skillset is "elite". Power, speed, strength, hands...it's all there. I talked in another thread about issues I saw with some of our other DE's getting arms collapsed...in that last episode of the eagles game, there's awesome footage of Myles holding off the OL with one arm so he can use his other arm to disengage quickly. Since im not going to rehash this argument in another thread, if you have the game still on tape...watch how the eagles used just their receiving TE to block the left side while they were trying to help their RT with garrett. Kendricks in his scouting report in epi 4 said Ertz is bullsht if you get up into him...yet #86 is exactly who they used to block the LDE. I'll leave it there.
6) as hopeful as I am of things turning around, I don't think we all should get too excited about potential wins. The offense isn't there. The defense will be good early but will tire out as the season wears on. They're gonna be out there "a lot". They may outright win us a few games. Hopefully we can run the ball well and keep them off the field. But points wise, I don't think we should be expecting any high octane offense even with a guy like Landry. The big plays are gonna happen when teams bring more into the box and Landry can sneak behind them. Maybe Gordon changes that equation if he's right....but im not calculating him into anything I see. I can't. It absolutely sucks that we didn't have him in camp so we can see where we're truly at with our WR's. It's possible we could have had talks with Dez earlier and had time to groom a trio of Dez, Gordon and Landry with some real nice young talent in Calloway coming in. Gordon's sht kind of fuks us again for the umpteenth time. I love the guy....I feel for the guy, but god dammit.
Great write up Clevs! My advice to you is NEVER worry or apologize about putting a game face on for the season. My theory is if you show up to a fight thinking you're not supposed to win - you've just completely talked yourself out of the opportunity to win. If the 99 Rams listened to everybody following a 5-11 season - they wouldn't have won their division, the NFC Championship and the SB the very next season. The Eagles also finished last in their division in 2016. What did these 2 teams have in common? The made some ideal off season moves that jumper cabled themselves right out of park.
We don't know where the offense is yet especially considering how often we've seen Landry, Gordon, Callaway, Njoku and Hyde/Duke on the field at the same time. We have yet to see Zeitler suited up with the starting line-up. We went from a Pink Floyd "Is there anybody in there?" - to multiple choice of good guys to throw to. All of a sudden playing QB here doesn't seem so impossible. Refreshing? You bet!
I remember Nassib's first game with us. He was relentless. That's pretty much what Hard Knocks is showing us this year. This may sound outrageous - but his fun personality also inclusive of inner chest makes him a 2018 keeper. I am noticing that despite how tall he is - he keeps an ideal pad height that keeps his base/legs under him to perpetuate that competitive leverage. Forget last year, I think you might be right that he's outplaying Ogbah this year. You'll definitely get me to watch this more closely.
What might have sealed Orchard's fate were the 2 times nobody blocked him and he completely whiffed on gift wrapped sacks/tackles behind the line of scrimmage. He's still only listed at 255 lbs, which has made him a liability against the run from time to time. Seems like a lot of coaching staff and teammates want Orchard to make it. I found myself really pulling for him in that final preseason game he had a good game in. Unfortunately, that might have been too little too late for the expectation for his experience. I haven't really seen enough of the other DEs to know who's making the team and who isn't (ie; couldn't tell you a thing about Chris Smith we got from Cincy). The good news for some of them is Avery can now have Kendricks' roster spot as a LB (despite lining up on the edge on passing downs). Last year we were 3rd against the run in the AFC (7th in the NFL); but was that because nobody wasted time running on us when throwing on us was such a sure thing?
Garrett's showing why he was a 1st overall pick talent. Watching him play on 2 healthy ankles for the first since he's been here is a blast! Look how much that changes everything in the performance of our overall defense. This is just the beginning of it all too... Having corners that can challenge the quick throws this time around will also allow people notice his impact. That's why Gregg Williams wanted him some Ohio State with that #4 overall pick. When I explained the 28 examples Williams claimed Garrett was within 1-1.5 steps (1 tenth of a second) - it's why he wanted him some some Denzel Ward at #4 overall and was thrilled about Dorsey addressing our talent/depth at corner this off season.
The frustration about Gordon getting on the field over the years has been well documented in here. This was the first year Gordon made the decision to get clean and commit to that. In the past, he only got treatment (after being told he needed it) to fool people while keeping the same stupid plan he was just going to outsmart the drug testing process he's never outsmarted. The huge difference there could be just as huge on the field. For example, this is the first time he's eligible to play week 1. That's the guy I had always hoped we drafted. Someone that learned from his past and cherished the golden opportunity this franchise extended him. He's put a lot of work in on and off the field hoping to get back to a Pro Bowl level at just 27 years of age (w/ minimal wear and tear). This is probably the most excited I've ever been about the guy considering how often I used to post I wanted us to trade him.
Great point about Williams and Haley! One of the funniest things I saw was when Gregg Williams was welcoming Brad Paisley off to the side. He said something along the line of "Welcome! If you're allergic to the word PHUCK - you better have a prescription."
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i was rolling when williams screamed "well than u better block em" after haley yelled about his qb's having some down comforters thrown at em. Fukkin sht is great.
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i was rolling when williams screamed "well than u better block em" after haley yelled about his qb's having some down comforters thrown at em. Fukkin sht is great.
i was rolling when williams screamed "well than u better block em" after haley yelled about his qb's having some down comforters thrown at em. Fukkin sht is great.
Garrett just played "tag you're it". Not even a hit.
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i was rolling when williams screamed "well than u better block em" after haley yelled about his qb's having some down comforters thrown at em. Fukkin sht is great.
Garrett just played "tag you're it". Not even a hit.
Garrett just played "tag you're it". Not even a hit.
i think the altercation revolved around something nassib did, thats why nasdib and haley were jawing at each other
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Garrett just played "tag you're it". Not even a hit.
i think the altercation revolved around something nassib did, thats why nasdib and haley were jawing at each other
i think the altercation revolved around something nassib did, thats why nasdib and haley were jawing at each other
Yeah I think he shoved the OLineman right into the QB right after Haley bitched about his QB getting hit from a previous play.
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So I haven't watched Hard Knocks in forever, I think it might have been one of the times the Bengals were on there and they had drafted RT Andre Smith and he was a hold-out....
For you guys who have watched this show every year, how has this season compared? The same? Worse? Way more interesting? Boring?
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So I haven't watched Hard Knocks in forever, I think it might have been one of the times the Bengals were on there and they had drafted RT Andre Smith and he was a hold-out....
For you guys who have watched this show every year, how has this season compared? The same? Worse? Way more interesting? Boring?
So I haven't watched Hard Knocks in forever, I think it might have been one of the times the Bengals were on there and they had drafted RT Andre Smith and he was a hold-out....
For you guys who have watched this show every year, how has this season compared? The same? Worse? Way more interesting? Boring?
its the browns dude. fukking watch. who cares about past seasons
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So I haven't watched Hard Knocks in forever, I think it might have been one of the times the Bengals were on there and they had drafted RT Andre Smith and he was a hold-out....
For you guys who have watched this show every year, how has this season compared? The same? Worse? Way more interesting? Boring?
its the browns dude. fukking watch. who cares about past seasons
its the browns dude. fukking watch. who cares about past seasons
I have watched this season, I was asking how it compared to the previous seasons.
Settle down, Francis.
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its the browns dude. fukking watch. who cares about past seasons
I have watched this season, I was asking how it compared to the previous seasons.
Settle down, Francis.
I have watched this season, I was asking how it compared to the previous seasons.
Settle down, Francis.
dont tell me settle down u settle down
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