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Avery and Nassib should be our LDE rotation

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  • C Clevfan4life

    ok, so i got home today and realized i still had the eagles game taped. So i watched every defensive snap in the 1st half. First time through i never realized the eagles had ertz (their TE)  blocking ogbah. And that battle did not go well for og. Ertz caught both og and avery blind on a couple plays, which in itself is alarming cause the DE always has to.check off the TE lining up on his outsie shoulder. For comparison i never saw this work on the other side against garrett. But even more alarming was a play where ertz lined up heads up with og and drove him a ft or two back before og regained leverage. By that time the play was past. I saw a similiar pad height mistake by ogbah near the goal line when he was lining up inside as a DT, and their guard just rocked him up on his toes and shoved him back a couple ft. Had the play come over that side it would have been ugly.

    I watched that left side and nothing but for the whole first half, so i also saw all of nassibs plays. Pass rushing there was obviously nothing to write home about but there were 3 or 4 run tackles that nassib either made on his own or was directly responsible for the pursuit getting there at the point. One play nassib read perfectly as it ran over their LT and he slid to his right all the way over from the LDE spot while keeping blockers off him and he made the tackle solo from behind i beleive. Obviously the right side of our defense had a hand in holding the play up just long enough for that to happen, football is a ream sport after all. But watching nassibs techinique as he ran parallel to the line was not unimpressive. For comparison the afire mentioned similiar play with ogbah, he lets the TE deep into his pads and got pushed backwards as he tried to drift to his right tracking the play. Nassibs just a better run stopping edge player and its not even really close. 

    So now im going to let this go for a little bit to see maybe some players are just easy walking through preseason. Thats fine, we'll see on the 9th. 

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on
    #49

    @clevfan4life said:

    Nassibs just a better run stopping edge player and its not even really close. 

    So now im going to let this go for a little bit to see maybe some players are just easy walking through preseason. Thats fine, we'll see on the 9th. 

    It doesn't look like we need to wait until the 9th.  We got the results today (September 2nd) and Nassib didn't make the team while Ogbah is projected to start. 

    If it makes you feel any better, I really wanted Nassib to make the team and thought he did.  He was a fun kid full of hustle that looked like he was improving.  But, that's only from small portions of the 4 hours of Hard Knocks and limited parts of preseason action.   Our DC and former Philadelphia Eagle DE (now our dline coach) saw a lot more of Nassib and Ogbah in practice and on film to trust their disagreement with you about which guy offers us more.

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #50

    nassib got cut? srsly?

  • C Clevfan4life

    nassib got cut? srsly?

    NeroN Nero wrote on
    #51

    @clevfan4life said:

    nassib got cut? srsly?

    I think it is a big NO by Dorsey to this thread.

  • GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on
    #52

    Yeah, Nassib is really good. He had the best day ever today.

    The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
  • GhoolieG Ghoolie

    Yeah, Nassib is really good. He had the best day ever today.

    C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #53

    @ghoolie said:

    Yeah, Nassib is really good. He had the best day ever today.

    i never said he's really good. He was however our 3rd best DE and actually our best edge defender against the run. 

  • C Clevfan4life

    @ghoolie said:

    Yeah, Nassib is really good. He had the best day ever today.

    i never said he's really good. He was however our 3rd best DE and actually our best edge defender against the run. 

    stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on
    #54

    @clevfan4life said:

    i never said he's really good. He was however our 3rd best DE and actually our best edge defender against the run. 

    either dorsey or williams didn't like him enough to keep him.

  • stillmotionS stillmotion

    @clevfan4life said:

    i never said he's really good. He was however our 3rd best DE and actually our best edge defender against the run. 

    either dorsey or williams didn't like him enough to keep him.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #55

    @stillmotion said:

    either dorsey or williams didn't like him enough to keep him.

    It may not be so much that they didn't like him, but that they found someone on the waiver wire they liked better. Good thing he has that 10% thing going for him!??

    😂
  • T TexasAg1969

    @stillmotion said:

    either dorsey or williams didn't like him enough to keep him.

    It may not be so much that they didn't like him, but that they found someone on the waiver wire they liked better. Good thing he has that 10% thing going for him!??

    GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on
    #56

    @texasag1969 said:

    It may not be so much that they didn't like him, but that they found someone on the waiver wire they liked better. Good thing he has that 10% thing going for him!??

    This isn't really newsworthy, at least not to me. I harped all along last year that I would get rid of most of the team. It's not like a team of 0 - 16, 1 - 31 is going to be hurt even if you did cut decent players. I am okay with them mixing it up.

    The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
  • GhoolieG Ghoolie

    @texasag1969 said:

    It may not be so much that they didn't like him, but that they found someone on the waiver wire they liked better. Good thing he has that 10% thing going for him!??

    This isn't really newsworthy, at least not to me. I harped all along last year that I would get rid of most of the team. It's not like a team of 0 - 16, 1 - 31 is going to be hurt even if you did cut decent players. I am okay with them mixing it up.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #57

    @ghoolie said:

    This isn't really newsworthy, at least not to me. I harped all along last year that I would get rid of most of the team. It's not like a team of 0 - 16, 1 - 31 is going to be hurt even if you did cut decent players. I am okay with them mixing it up.

    Well, Dorsey did get rid of 1\2 the team that went 0-16. Don't quote me on the exact number, but I think it's 28 new guys.  

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #58

    let me be clear I would have been perfectly fine with these cuts....during the offseason or even at the beginning of camp. Not with a week to go till the home opener against pgh. We're seeing a retooling of the O line too so there seems to be a teamwide sort of "redo" happening. I don't know how I feel about that. The pgh game will tell. If our DL rotation gets in there to spell our starters, and they suck, than we know the Browns are in deep sht. Cause Meder, Nassib and Brantley all are competent players against other teams starters. Getting rid of them a week before the home opener is a head scratcher. Especially since this game against the steelers is prob one of the most important games in recent memory. We've just had national exposure and we can't open with a turd. If the Steelers doggy walk us at first energy, be "thankful" if at a few points during the season we scratch out a few wins. I want to be clear I wouldn't have been ok cutting ogbah at this stage in the season and my thoughts on him I've made abundantly clear. 

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