The Le'Veon Bell watch continues......... oh yeah, the soap opera goes on.
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I'm fully aware, the steelers also restructure a lot which is favorable to the player. Rapoport also talks out of his butt A LOT. Did you forget to read the "rolling guaranteed" portion of that tweet from Mr. WRONG LOT?
So, anyone that says anything rightly critical of the Squealers talks out of their butt? Is that all we are going to get from you this year?
"You are talking out of your butt"
"You are talking out of your butt"
"You are talking out of your butt"
How do you know, unless you are down there sniffing our butts?
So, anyone that says anything rightly critical of the Squealers talks out of their butt? Is that all we are going to get from you this year?
"You are talking out of your butt"
"You are talking out of your butt"
"You are talking out of your butt"
How do you know, unless you are down there sniffing our butts?
You completely made up an issue with ownership. A complete and total fabrication based on nothing but your desire to type it out. I'm talking about ONLY that portion of your post. You do it allllllllllllllllllllllllll the time.
Art II has been an owner since 2003.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
So, they need to release the tag. But, if they release the tag, then can they not trade him for whatever? Even the third rounder they would get in comp?
Or would he become a complete FA? As for him just signing and him being fine....you are not getting my point: what if they don't want him there now anymore?
If he signs the tag, and he reports, then MUST they trade him for only the 2 1st round picks? Which for him, a 27 year old, possibly run down RB, is way to big of a load for any team.
They dont need to do anything. He signs the tag or he reports week 10. Every game he misses prior to week 10 he gives up nearly 900k. If he doesn't report he loses the season and it messes with his free agency status. The Steelers never negotiate contracts in season, never. It has zero to do with being cheap.
I'd take the two firsts in a heart beat but I don't believe a team offers it.
As far as rooney is concerned you talk out of your a$$ a lot. Bell is being greedy, he's the only one. It has zero to do with player respect for ownership. You should apply for a media position you drum up bs better than a dung beetle. Art II was in control of the team long before Dan rooney passed away.
They dont need to do anything. He signs the tag or he reports week 10. Every game he misses prior to week 10 he gives up nearly 900k. If he doesn't report he loses the season and it messes with his free agency status. The Steelers never negotiate contracts in season, never. It has zero to do with being cheap.
Oh, you poor, deluded child. They are cheap (but that does not mean I think they are wrong on this)
I'd take the two firsts in a heart beat but I don't believe a team offers it.
Sure, anyone would.....but I agree no one would offer that.
As far as rooney is concerned you talk out of your a$$ a lot.
No, you are clueless, as usual. Blind, really. and thee you go again sticking your nose in my arse. How does it smell?
Bell is being greedy, he's the only one.
I doubt he is the only one, just the only one that has taken it to this extent.
It has zero to do with player respect for ownership.
You completely have NO clue about human nature. Bell wants X dollars, Art II doesn't want to give it to him. Bell whines, complains, holds out, refuses to report. Art says, too bad, no soup for you. Do you REALLY think that Bell would NOT lose respect for Steeler ownership (even if he is misguided?) If , so, again, I say you do not understand human nature. I am in the human nature business, you sell like hot dogs or tacos or something. I think I understand human nature better than you do.
You should apply for a media position you drum up bs better than a dung beetle. Art II was in control of the team long before Dan rooney passed away.
It is not BS. Again, it is called understanding human nature. You are inept at that. When we want to know the recipe for chili dogs, we will contact you. When you want to know about life in America, someone else will need to be consulted.
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They dont need to do anything. He signs the tag or he reports week 10. Every game he misses prior to week 10 he gives up nearly 900k. If he doesn't report he loses the season and it messes with his free agency status. The Steelers never negotiate contracts in season, never. It has zero to do with being cheap.
Oh, you poor, deluded child. They are cheap (but that does not mean I think they are wrong on this)
I'd take the two firsts in a heart beat but I don't believe a team offers it.
Sure, anyone would.....but I agree no one would offer that.
As far as rooney is concerned you talk out of your a$$ a lot.
No, you are clueless, as usual. Blind, really. and thee you go again sticking your nose in my arse. How does it smell?
Bell is being greedy, he's the only one.
I doubt he is the only one, just the only one that has taken it to this extent.
It has zero to do with player respect for ownership.
You completely have NO clue about human nature. Bell wants X dollars, Art II doesn't want to give it to him. Bell whines, complains, holds out, refuses to report. Art says, too bad, no soup for you. Do you REALLY think that Bell would NOT lose respect for Steeler ownership (even if he is misguided?) If , so, again, I say you do not understand human nature. I am in the human nature business, you sell like hot dogs or tacos or something. I think I understand human nature better than you do.
You should apply for a media position you drum up bs better than a dung beetle. Art II was in control of the team long before Dan rooney passed away.
It is not BS. Again, it is called understanding human nature. You are inept at that. When we want to know the recipe for chili dogs, we will contact you. When you want to know about life in America, someone else will need to be consulted.
I don't care what bell thinks. You implied an issue with the entire team. Rooney has been an owner since 2003 and inherited his dad's share when Dan passed away. Bell at the time was offered the richest running back contract in the history of the league and he turned it down. They rode with him through two suspensions and a knee injury. If he doesn't respect art II and doesn't understand its a business from both ends he can get f**ked. Bring on the Connor era.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
So, anyone that says anything rightly critical of the Squealers talks out of their butt? Is that all we are going to get from you this year?
"You are talking out of your butt"
"You are talking out of your butt"
"You are talking out of your butt"
How do you know, unless you are down there sniffing our butts?
You completely made up an issue with ownership. A complete and total fabrication based on nothing but your desire to type it out. I'm talking about ONLY that portion of your post. You do it allllllllllllllllllllllllll the time.
Art II has been an owner since 2003.
You completely made up an issue with ownership. A complete and total fabrication based on nothing but your desire to type it out. I'm talking about ONLY that portion of your post. You do it allllllllllllllllllllllllll the time.
Art II has been an owner since 2003.
Jimmy Haslam was a Steeler partial owner in 2003. That don't mean he gets respect from Steeler players, does it?
And you have a litany of players who have had contract disputes with Steeler managment/ownership. Sorry, but that DOES affect the respect that people have for someone. Maybe they are all soft and cuddly with each other when times are good, but when they want paid? Not so much....as is happening now.
And how many top free agents have signed with Pisstown? None that I can recall. So, apparently, among the rest of the players of the league, Pittsburgh is definitely NOT considered a prime destination for them.
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And gipper you are Shmucking attorney not an astronaut. I know plenty of really bad ones and law schools pump em out at an alarming rate. I have a successful business that doesn't require slaving over other peoples cowpoop and eventually will lead to me sitting back and collecting pay checks while I do what I want. You also forget I went to school for political science, I nearly went to law school. (I had a 175 on my lsat, so spare me the bs and the back handed insult)
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
You completely made up an issue with ownership. A complete and total fabrication based on nothing but your desire to type it out. I'm talking about ONLY that portion of your post. You do it allllllllllllllllllllllllll the time.
Art II has been an owner since 2003.
Jimmy Haslam was a Steeler partial owner in 2003. That don't mean he gets respect from Steeler players, does it?
And you have a litany of players who have had contract disputes with Steeler managment/ownership. Sorry, but that DOES affect the respect that people have for someone. Maybe they are all soft and cuddly with each other when times are good, but when they want paid? Not so much....as is happening now.
And how many top free agents have signed with Pisstown? None that I can recall. So, apparently, among the rest of the players of the league, Pittsburgh is definitely NOT considered a prime destination for them.
Jimmy Haslam was a Steeler partial owner in 2003. That don't mean he gets respect from Steeler players, does it?
And you have a litany of players who have had contract disputes with Steeler managment/ownership. Sorry, but that DOES affect the respect that people have for someone. Maybe they are all soft and cuddly with each other when times are good, but when they want paid? Not so much....as is happening now.
And how many top free agents have signed with Pisstown? None that I can recall. So, apparently, among the rest of the players of the league, Pittsburgh is definitely NOT considered a prime destination for them.
Haslam isn't a rooney and comparing the two is comical. Three generations in Pittsburgh, you don't see the difference Mr. Human nature.
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I don't care what bell thinks. You implied an issue with the entire team. Rooney has been an owner since 2003 and inherited his dad's share when Dan passed away. Bell at the time was offered the richest running back contract in the history of the league and he turned it down. They rode with him through two suspensions and a knee injury. If he doesn't respect art II and doesn't understand its a business from both ends he can get f**ked. Bring on the Connor era.
I don't care what bell thinks. You implied an issue with the entire team. Rooney has been an owner since 2003 and inherited his dad's share when Dan passed away. Bell at the time was offered the richest running back contract in the history of the league and he turned it down. They rode with him through two suspensions and a knee injury. If he doesn't respect art II and doesn't understand its a business from both ends he can get f**ked. Bring on the Connor era.
I am not defending Bell...by any means. But, whatever is going on, you have the entire team acting like Animal House apparently.
As for Conner, you always do this: you always think that whomever replace Hall of Fame talent on that team will be just as good. Like when whomever replaced finger LeBeau. And Conner to take over for Bell and be as good? I would make a wager against that. Why dont' you just go ahead and sit BR down? After all, whomever would be there to replace him would become just as good, according to your philosophy.
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And the steelers don't overspend in free agency. They draft well and have players that demand substantial portions of the salary cap. They aren't the Browns who blow entire draft classes and have a bunch of nobodies that need paid until NOW where they are finally fielding a solid roster.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
I don't care what bell thinks. You implied an issue with the entire team. Rooney has been an owner since 2003 and inherited his dad's share when Dan passed away. Bell at the time was offered the richest running back contract in the history of the league and he turned it down. They rode with him through two suspensions and a knee injury. If he doesn't respect art II and doesn't understand its a business from both ends he can get f**ked. Bring on the Connor era.
I am not defending Bell...by any means. But, whatever is going on, you have the entire team acting like Animal House apparently.
As for Conner, you always do this: you always think that whomever replace Hall of Fame talent on that team will be just as good. Like when whomever replaced finger LeBeau. And Conner to take over for Bell and be as good? I would make a wager against that. Why dont' you just go ahead and sit BR down? After all, whomever would be there to replace him would become just as good, according to your philosophy.
I am not defending Bell...by any means. But, whatever is going on, you have the entire team acting like Animal House apparently.
As for Conner, you always do this: you always think that whomever replace Hall of Fame talent on that team will be just as good. Like when whomever replaced finger LeBeau. And Conner to take over for Bell and be as good? I would make a wager against that. Why dont' you just go ahead and sit BR down? After all, whomever would be there to replace him would become just as good, according to your philosophy.
Running back is the most replaceable position in the league. Connor has had a tremendous camp. He would have been a first round pick if not for the cancer based on his collegiate production. He won't be lev bell but behind our line he doesn't need to be.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
And gipper you are Shmucking attorney not an astronaut. I know plenty of really bad ones and law schools pump em out at an alarming rate. I have a successful business that doesn't require slaving over other peoples cowpoop and eventually will lead to me sitting back and collecting pay checks while I do what I want. You also forget I went to school for political science, I nearly went to law school. (I had a 175 on my lsat, so spare me the bs and the back handed insult)
And gipper you are Shmucking attorney not an astronaut. I know plenty of really bad ones and law schools pump em out at an alarming rate. I have a successful business that doesn't require slaving over other peoples cowpoop and eventually will lead to me sitting back and collecting pay checks while I do what I want. You also forget I went to school for political science, I nearly went to law school. (I had a 175 on my lsat, so spare me the bs and the back handed insult)
So? You think that astronauts know more about human nature than attorneys? Yea, right, I can see why you went into selling popcorn and bagels. More your intellect.
Almost went to law school? That is like saying " I was almost pregnant". You didn't go to law school, and you are not pregnant. (and I can tell you that going to law school does not really prepare you for dealing with human beings and their problems. Only experience does that).
And by no means was I giving you a backhanded insult. By no means. It was a full, open handed frontal insult. If I had given you a back handed insult, you likely would not have been aware of it.
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And the steelers don't overspend in free agency. They draft well and have players that demand substantial portions of the salary cap. They aren't the Browns who blow entire draft classes and have a bunch of nobodies that need paid until NOW where they are finally fielding a solid roster.
And the steelers don't overspend in free agency. They draft well and have players that demand substantial portions of the salary cap. They aren't the Browns who blow entire draft classes and have a bunch of nobodies that need paid until NOW where they are finally fielding a solid roster.
I am certainly NOT going to defend the Browns terrible draft record. As for drafting "well"? Well, they have hit on a few, very important picks as well. The primary one being BR....but that was what? 14 years ago? And yes, they don't overspend on free agency...because they are too cheap to do so, just like I said.
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And gipper you are Shmucking attorney not an astronaut. I know plenty of really bad ones and law schools pump em out at an alarming rate. I have a successful business that doesn't require slaving over other peoples cowpoop and eventually will lead to me sitting back and collecting pay checks while I do what I want. You also forget I went to school for political science, I nearly went to law school. (I had a 175 on my lsat, so spare me the bs and the back handed insult)
So? You think that astronauts know more about human nature than attorneys? Yea, right, I can see why you went into selling popcorn and bagels. More your intellect.
Almost went to law school? That is like saying " I was almost pregnant". You didn't go to law school, and you are not pregnant. (and I can tell you that going to law school does not really prepare you for dealing with human beings and their problems. Only experience does that).
And by no means was I giving you a backhanded insult. By no means. It was a full, open handed frontal insult. If I had given you a back handed insult, you likely would not have been aware of it.
So? You think that astronauts know more about human nature than attorneys? Yea, right, I can see why you went into selling popcorn and bagels. More your intellect.
Almost went to law school? That is like saying " I was almost pregnant". You didn't go to law school, and you are not pregnant. (and I can tell you that going to law school does not really prepare you for dealing with human beings and their problems. Only experience does that).
And by no means was I giving you a backhanded insult. By no means. It was a full, open handed frontal insult. If I had given you a back handed insult, you likely would not have been aware of it.
It was more a knock on your supposed other worldly intelligence than it was a comparison of professions. I changed my mind on law school after preparing to go. I had no desire to throw myself into that rat race where every small town has 6-10 attorneys, who knows how many in major cities.
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And the steelers don't overspend in free agency. They draft well and have players that demand substantial portions of the salary cap. They aren't the Browns who blow entire draft classes and have a bunch of nobodies that need paid until NOW where they are finally fielding a solid roster.
I am certainly NOT going to defend the Browns terrible draft record. As for drafting "well"? Well, they have hit on a few, very important picks as well. The primary one being BR....but that was what? 14 years ago? And yes, they don't overspend on free agency...because they are too cheap to do so, just like I said.
I am certainly NOT going to defend the Browns terrible draft record. As for drafting "well"? Well, they have hit on a few, very important picks as well. The primary one being BR....but that was what? 14 years ago? And yes, they don't overspend on free agency...because they are too cheap to do so, just like I said.
They don't need to sign free agents the majority of the time. They also hit on more than BR. Lol
Just stop gipper. I'm walking away now, have a nice weekend looking at yourself in the mirror gipper smiley.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
I am not defending Bell...by any means. But, whatever is going on, you have the entire team acting like Animal House apparently.
As for Conner, you always do this: you always think that whomever replace Hall of Fame talent on that team will be just as good. Like when whomever replaced finger LeBeau. And Conner to take over for Bell and be as good? I would make a wager against that. Why dont' you just go ahead and sit BR down? After all, whomever would be there to replace him would become just as good, according to your philosophy.
Running back is the most replaceable position in the league. Connor has had a tremendous camp. He would have been a first round pick if not for the cancer based on his collegiate production. He won't be lev bell but behind our line he doesn't need to be.
Running back is the most replaceable position in the league. Connor has had a tremendous camp. He would have been a first round pick if not for the cancer based on his collegiate production. He won't be lev bell but behind our line he doesn't need to be.
Actually, I think he does, if the team wants to be serious contenders. I mean, maybe he could be good enough to hold the water bucket for Bell, but if the Steelers expect to beat the Jags, Pats, Chargers, and other top contenders in the AFC, they would likely need a Bell...or Bell like player. Of course, what you have should be good enough for the Steelers to take this weak division, but beyond that? Dunno.
As for Conner being a first round pick without having had cancer? That is the opinion of one and only one person: you. Like you said....RB is the most replaceable position. Give that, give his talent, he would have been rated like a 3rd rounder, maybe. But, at least you got one thing right, he does have the Mike Munchak OL to run behind, which is good for him. (but didn't Bell have that last year?)
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You guys get the prize for most boring debate l’ve read in a while.
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I am certainly NOT going to defend the Browns terrible draft record. As for drafting "well"? Well, they have hit on a few, very important picks as well. The primary one being BR....but that was what? 14 years ago? And yes, they don't overspend on free agency...because they are too cheap to do so, just like I said.
They don't need to sign free agents the majority of the time. They also hit on more than BR. Lol
Just stop gipper. I'm walking away now, have a nice weekend looking at yourself in the mirror gipper smiley.
They don't need to sign free agents the majority of the time. They also hit on more than BR. Lol
Just stop gipper. I'm walking away now, have a nice weekend looking at yourself in the mirror gipper smiley.
Yes, they hit on Brown. That was the ONE big hit they had (even bigger than BR...who, after all was the #11 overall pick) Bell, a second rounder is a bit better than his draft status, sure. But that is all I am going to give you. If you claim that they hit on like their first and second round picks, well.....every team should hit on those, and most do. (all but the Browns, sure). DeCastro and Pouncey and Heyward were all like first rounders, no? If you had not hit on them you would have been in like Browns territory.
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You guys get the prize for most boring debate l’ve read in a while.
You guys get the prize for most boring debate l’ve read in a while.
Its called Football. Browns vs. Steelers. Ever hear of it?
Would you rather have another go round with Ghoolie?
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And despite that, he's been the best RB in the league. To not offer a similar contract which you clearly didn't know (see choco's post) is a slap in the face. You're not wrong about Gurley's contract, but his fully guaranteed money is north of $20 million. Maybe he could have handled the end game better, but the Steelers despite what you've said absolutely abused Bell the past three seasons. He absolutely deserves what he's asking for and the Steelers scoffed. It's their right to do it, but I'd see it as a huge slap in the face if I was Bell too. To franchise the guy twice despite all that is, put simply, a finger move.
They offered him the richest running back contract in the history of the league and he turned it down. Gurley signed after bell. They just don't overpay. He deserves 17m per year at the most volatile position in the league?
And how did they "abuse" him. He wants paid a Sheet load of money because of what he can do. Bell ain't the only cog in the wheel. Check the steelers record without him.
They offered him the richest running back contract in the history of the league and he turned it down. Gurley signed after bell. They just don't overpay. He deserves 17m per year at the most volatile position in the league?
And how did they "abuse" him. He wants paid a Sheet load of money because of what he can do. Bell ain't the only cog in the wheel. Check the steelers record without him.
He turned it down because he knew what the market was, and he was right. Gurley and Bell are of the same caliber, there's no reason that Bell should be getting over $10 million less in guaranteed money. Screw being the richest contract, that doesn't mean crap outside the guarantee and you should know that.
742 touches over two years is insane for a RB, so yes they abused his ability. He may not be the only cog in the machine, but they went 11-9 in games he didn't play before this season, which isn't exactly eye-popping. When dude came back and touched the ball 20+ times in 2016 the team went 10-1. You're just being delusional if you think he's not a factor back and the best in the league over the last 4 seasons. To not pay him as such in guaranteed money is again a slap in the face whether you want to believe that or not. Using the franchise tag like that is a crappy move in lieu of offering a contract, that's not an open secret.
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You completely made up an issue with ownership. A complete and total fabrication based on nothing but your desire to type it out. I'm talking about ONLY that portion of your post. You do it allllllllllllllllllllllllll the time.
Art II has been an owner since 2003.
Jimmy Haslam was a Steeler partial owner in 2003. That don't mean he gets respect from Steeler players, does it?
And you have a litany of players who have had contract disputes with Steeler managment/ownership. Sorry, but that DOES affect the respect that people have for someone. Maybe they are all soft and cuddly with each other when times are good, but when they want paid? Not so much....as is happening now.
And how many top free agents have signed with Pisstown? None that I can recall. So, apparently, among the rest of the players of the league, Pittsburgh is definitely NOT considered a prime destination for them.
Jimmy Haslam was a Steeler partial owner in 2003. That don't mean he gets respect from Steeler players, does it?
And you have a litany of players who have had contract disputes with Steeler managment/ownership. Sorry, but that DOES affect the respect that people have for someone. Maybe they are all soft and cuddly with each other when times are good, but when they want paid? Not so much....as is happening now.
And how many top free agents have signed with Pisstown? None that I can recall. So, apparently, among the rest of the players of the league, Pittsburgh is definitely NOT considered a prime destination for them.
Well Gip,most of the time when the Steelers let a player walk because he wants paid, they turn out to be nobodies. Plaxico Burress? We did the same with Terrell Pryor.
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They offered him the richest running back contract in the history of the league and he turned it down. Gurley signed after bell. They just don't overpay. He deserves 17m per year at the most volatile position in the league?
And how did they "abuse" him. He wants paid a Sheet load of money because of what he can do. Bell ain't the only cog in the wheel. Check the steelers record without him.
He turned it down because he knew what the market was, and he was right. Gurley and Bell are of the same caliber, there's no reason that Bell should be getting over $10 million less in guaranteed money. Screw being the richest contract, that doesn't mean crap outside the guarantee and you should know that.
742 touches over two years is insane for a RB, so yes they abused his ability. He may not be the only cog in the machine, but they went 11-9 in games he didn't play before this season, which isn't exactly eye-popping. When dude came back and touched the ball 20+ times in 2016 the team went 10-1. You're just being delusional if you think he's not a factor back and the best in the league over the last 4 seasons. To not pay him as such in guaranteed money is again a slap in the face whether you want to believe that or not. Using the franchise tag like that is a crappy move in lieu of offering a contract, that's not an open secret.
He turned it down because he knew what the market was, and he was right. Gurley and Bell are of the same caliber, there's no reason that Bell should be getting over $10 million less in guaranteed money. Screw being the richest contract, that doesn't mean crap outside the guarantee and you should know that.
742 touches over two years is insane for a RB, so yes they abused his ability. He may not be the only cog in the machine, but they went 11-9 in games he didn't play before this season, which isn't exactly eye-popping. When dude came back and touched the ball 20+ times in 2016 the team went 10-1. You're just being delusional if you think he's not a factor back and the best in the league over the last 4 seasons. To not pay him as such in guaranteed money is again a slap in the face whether you want to believe that or not. Using the franchise tag like that is a crappy move in lieu of offering a contract, that's not an open secret.
That ist't just rushing touches dip Sheet and part of the reason he wants as much as he does is because of his ability in the pass game. If those touches were minimized he would have less of a salary leg to stand on. As far as Gurley is concerned he's younger, hasn't been suspended twice and didn't blow out a knee.
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