The Le'Veon Bell watch continues......... oh yeah, the soap opera goes on.
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You guys get the prize for most boring debate l’ve read in a while.
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I am certainly NOT going to defend the Browns terrible draft record. As for drafting "well"? Well, they have hit on a few, very important picks as well. The primary one being BR....but that was what? 14 years ago? And yes, they don't overspend on free agency...because they are too cheap to do so, just like I said.
They don't need to sign free agents the majority of the time. They also hit on more than BR. Lol
Just stop gipper. I'm walking away now, have a nice weekend looking at yourself in the mirror gipper smiley.
They don't need to sign free agents the majority of the time. They also hit on more than BR. Lol
Just stop gipper. I'm walking away now, have a nice weekend looking at yourself in the mirror gipper smiley.
Yes, they hit on Brown. That was the ONE big hit they had (even bigger than BR...who, after all was the #11 overall pick) Bell, a second rounder is a bit better than his draft status, sure. But that is all I am going to give you. If you claim that they hit on like their first and second round picks, well.....every team should hit on those, and most do. (all but the Browns, sure). DeCastro and Pouncey and Heyward were all like first rounders, no? If you had not hit on them you would have been in like Browns territory.
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You guys get the prize for most boring debate l’ve read in a while.
You guys get the prize for most boring debate l’ve read in a while.
Its called Football. Browns vs. Steelers. Ever hear of it?
Would you rather have another go round with Ghoolie?
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And despite that, he's been the best RB in the league. To not offer a similar contract which you clearly didn't know (see choco's post) is a slap in the face. You're not wrong about Gurley's contract, but his fully guaranteed money is north of $20 million. Maybe he could have handled the end game better, but the Steelers despite what you've said absolutely abused Bell the past three seasons. He absolutely deserves what he's asking for and the Steelers scoffed. It's their right to do it, but I'd see it as a huge slap in the face if I was Bell too. To franchise the guy twice despite all that is, put simply, a finger move.
They offered him the richest running back contract in the history of the league and he turned it down. Gurley signed after bell. They just don't overpay. He deserves 17m per year at the most volatile position in the league?
And how did they "abuse" him. He wants paid a Sheet load of money because of what he can do. Bell ain't the only cog in the wheel. Check the steelers record without him.
They offered him the richest running back contract in the history of the league and he turned it down. Gurley signed after bell. They just don't overpay. He deserves 17m per year at the most volatile position in the league?
And how did they "abuse" him. He wants paid a Sheet load of money because of what he can do. Bell ain't the only cog in the wheel. Check the steelers record without him.
He turned it down because he knew what the market was, and he was right. Gurley and Bell are of the same caliber, there's no reason that Bell should be getting over $10 million less in guaranteed money. Screw being the richest contract, that doesn't mean crap outside the guarantee and you should know that.
742 touches over two years is insane for a RB, so yes they abused his ability. He may not be the only cog in the machine, but they went 11-9 in games he didn't play before this season, which isn't exactly eye-popping. When dude came back and touched the ball 20+ times in 2016 the team went 10-1. You're just being delusional if you think he's not a factor back and the best in the league over the last 4 seasons. To not pay him as such in guaranteed money is again a slap in the face whether you want to believe that or not. Using the franchise tag like that is a crappy move in lieu of offering a contract, that's not an open secret.
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You completely made up an issue with ownership. A complete and total fabrication based on nothing but your desire to type it out. I'm talking about ONLY that portion of your post. You do it allllllllllllllllllllllllll the time.
Art II has been an owner since 2003.
Jimmy Haslam was a Steeler partial owner in 2003. That don't mean he gets respect from Steeler players, does it?
And you have a litany of players who have had contract disputes with Steeler managment/ownership. Sorry, but that DOES affect the respect that people have for someone. Maybe they are all soft and cuddly with each other when times are good, but when they want paid? Not so much....as is happening now.
And how many top free agents have signed with Pisstown? None that I can recall. So, apparently, among the rest of the players of the league, Pittsburgh is definitely NOT considered a prime destination for them.
Jimmy Haslam was a Steeler partial owner in 2003. That don't mean he gets respect from Steeler players, does it?
And you have a litany of players who have had contract disputes with Steeler managment/ownership. Sorry, but that DOES affect the respect that people have for someone. Maybe they are all soft and cuddly with each other when times are good, but when they want paid? Not so much....as is happening now.
And how many top free agents have signed with Pisstown? None that I can recall. So, apparently, among the rest of the players of the league, Pittsburgh is definitely NOT considered a prime destination for them.
Well Gip,most of the time when the Steelers let a player walk because he wants paid, they turn out to be nobodies. Plaxico Burress? We did the same with Terrell Pryor.
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They offered him the richest running back contract in the history of the league and he turned it down. Gurley signed after bell. They just don't overpay. He deserves 17m per year at the most volatile position in the league?
And how did they "abuse" him. He wants paid a Sheet load of money because of what he can do. Bell ain't the only cog in the wheel. Check the steelers record without him.
He turned it down because he knew what the market was, and he was right. Gurley and Bell are of the same caliber, there's no reason that Bell should be getting over $10 million less in guaranteed money. Screw being the richest contract, that doesn't mean crap outside the guarantee and you should know that.
742 touches over two years is insane for a RB, so yes they abused his ability. He may not be the only cog in the machine, but they went 11-9 in games he didn't play before this season, which isn't exactly eye-popping. When dude came back and touched the ball 20+ times in 2016 the team went 10-1. You're just being delusional if you think he's not a factor back and the best in the league over the last 4 seasons. To not pay him as such in guaranteed money is again a slap in the face whether you want to believe that or not. Using the franchise tag like that is a crappy move in lieu of offering a contract, that's not an open secret.
He turned it down because he knew what the market was, and he was right. Gurley and Bell are of the same caliber, there's no reason that Bell should be getting over $10 million less in guaranteed money. Screw being the richest contract, that doesn't mean crap outside the guarantee and you should know that.
742 touches over two years is insane for a RB, so yes they abused his ability. He may not be the only cog in the machine, but they went 11-9 in games he didn't play before this season, which isn't exactly eye-popping. When dude came back and touched the ball 20+ times in 2016 the team went 10-1. You're just being delusional if you think he's not a factor back and the best in the league over the last 4 seasons. To not pay him as such in guaranteed money is again a slap in the face whether you want to believe that or not. Using the franchise tag like that is a crappy move in lieu of offering a contract, that's not an open secret.
That ist't just rushing touches dip Sheet and part of the reason he wants as much as he does is because of his ability in the pass game. If those touches were minimized he would have less of a salary leg to stand on. As far as Gurley is concerned he's younger, hasn't been suspended twice and didn't blow out a knee.
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He turned it down because he knew what the market was, and he was right. Gurley and Bell are of the same caliber, there's no reason that Bell should be getting over $10 million less in guaranteed money. Screw being the richest contract, that doesn't mean crap outside the guarantee and you should know that.
742 touches over two years is insane for a RB, so yes they abused his ability. He may not be the only cog in the machine, but they went 11-9 in games he didn't play before this season, which isn't exactly eye-popping. When dude came back and touched the ball 20+ times in 2016 the team went 10-1. You're just being delusional if you think he's not a factor back and the best in the league over the last 4 seasons. To not pay him as such in guaranteed money is again a slap in the face whether you want to believe that or not. Using the franchise tag like that is a crappy move in lieu of offering a contract, that's not an open secret.
That ist't just rushing touches dip Sheet and part of the reason he wants as much as he does is because of his ability in the pass game. If those touches were minimized he would have less of a salary leg to stand on. As far as Gurley is concerned he's younger, hasn't been suspended twice and didn't blow out a knee.
That ist't just rushing touches dip Sheet and part of the reason he wants as much as he does is because of his ability in the pass game. If those touches were minimized he would have less of a salary leg to stand on. As far as Gurley is concerned he's younger, hasn't been suspended twice and didn't blow out a knee.
LOL what? So getting tackled after a pass catch is some great difference between after a rush? Honestly, now you're just sounding moronic. Yes, of course he wants the money based on his ability to catch the ball-that's the whole point. If the touches were down he would get less money, but they weren't. They were at all all-time highs and he should get paid for it. That's what organization largely do to reward players who have shown to be elite and worked for them.
Gurley's extension is for when he turns 26, exactly where Bell is now so that's not a valid argument either. You have any other straws to grasp at (of course noting you glanced right past the point about wins/losses)? Just face it, the organization doesn't wanna pay the guy despite him being worth the market value at the position. Bell has absolutely every right to be slighted by that. I'm not even necessarily calling out the Steelers for that, but stop beating around the bush. You're just wrong.
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Touches = Carries + Receptions
Amazingly Bell's 406 season total in 2017 is only the 35th highest in NFL history.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/touches_single_season.htm
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Touches = Carries + Receptions
Amazingly Bell's 406 season total in 2017 is only the 35th highest in NFL history.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/touches_single_season.htm
Touches = Carries + Receptions
Amazingly Bell's 406 season total in 2017 is only the 35th highest in NFL history.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/touches_single_season.htm
I'm aware they are the same and I think it's ridiculous that people think he was "run into.the ground" or that the steelers would run him into the ground again. Fact of the matter is the steelers have a bunch of mouthes to feed, not just his and they offered him a huge contract and he shot it down. I don't have a problem with him holding out at all. He's not being paid until he does report BUT did say he was going to report like last year and now he isn't so the offensive line is pissed off. I don't care if he plays another down for the steelers. I also don't want the team to mortgage the farm to pay him what he wants, the market isn't what he's asking. You aren't going to suddenly see a slew of running backs asking for 17m per.
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Touches = Carries + Receptions
Amazingly Bell's 406 season total in 2017 is only the 35th highest in NFL history.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/touches_single_season.htm
Touches = Carries + Receptions
Amazingly Bell's 406 season total in 2017 is only the 35th highest in NFL history.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/touches_single_season.htm
Now, that's just in the Superbowl era, right? Stats don't count prior to that...
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Touches = Carries + Receptions
Amazingly Bell's 406 season total in 2017 is only the 35th highest in NFL history.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/touches_single_season.htm
Now, that's just in the Superbowl era, right? Stats don't count prior to that...
Now, that's just in the Superbowl era, right? Stats don't count prior to that...
Well you pretty much have to be at least 60+ years old to remember the whole super bowl era personally so that is what most matters to most of us.
I do remember every one!
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Well you pretty much have to be at least 60+ years old to remember the whole super bowl era personally so that is what most matters to most of us.
I do remember every one!
For now...
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Well you pretty much have to be at least 60+ years old to remember the whole super bowl era personally so that is what most matters to most of us.
I do remember every one!
Not bad! Compare that to a 65 year old Ghoolie that can't remember what he posted yesterday.
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Not bad! Compare that to a 65 year old Ghoolie that can't remember what he posted yesterday.
Well I'll be 68 this month and still can remember a whole lot......including how to spell and behave like an adult.
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still can remember a whole lot......including how to spell and behave like an adult.
Okay MJ, we'll work on those 2 things. When you're wife is able to tell someone her oldest kid just turned 68 - we'll know we did our job in here...
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Okay MJ, we'll work on those 2 things. When you're wife is able to tell someone her oldest kid just turned 68 - we'll know we did our job in here...
She does call me an idiot at times......unless she needs me to fix her computer.
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So.... idiot savant?
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Well since we play the steelrz again Halloween week and since Le'Veon Bell is still a football player there....I think I thought this was somewhat interesting from the Pittsburgh TRIB: https://triblive.com/sports/columnists/timbenz/breakfastwithbenz/14071803-74/did-steelers-leveon-bell-change-comeback-plan-after-teammates-comments
Do you think negative comments by Steelers players will keep running back Le'Veon Bell away from the team longer than he originally planned?36%Yes. His feelings were probably hurt by his teammates' reaction to his absence.37%No. He'll come back whenever he feels good and ready.22%I'm not sure, but it's going to be an interesting locker room this season.5%I don't follow the Steelers.Based on 1,387 responses-----> A better question might be if you offer an NFL player $14.4 million dollar contract as set forth by the NFL CBA is he just a spoiled brat if he just jumps ship right before GAME 1? Sticking up for his rights or a brat, just ask his teammates. -
Free agency isnt free. Regardless of whether you like or hate lev bell. The dude is getting jobbed hard.
Guy works his contract...busts his arse and looks to get paid in his next contract..
His team says...um no...we are franchising you..so instead of you making major bank...we get you for a bargain based on league average.
And they can do this indefinately..
Nflpa was dumb for allowing it.
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Ahhhhh the life of a young rich pampered professional athlete today from the Pittsburgh TRIB: https://triblive.com/sports/steelers/14069628-74/leveon-bell-spotted-partying-in-miami-as-steelers-prep-for-chiefs
Le'Veon Bell spotted partying in Miami as Steelers prep for Chiefs
Updated 20 hours ago
Le'Veon Bell reportedly pulled an all-nighter this week, but he wasn't studying the Pittsburgh Steelers' playbook.
Bell, who remains away from the team as the NFL season enters its second week, was hanging out in a Miami nightclub until the wee hours of Tuesday morning,TMZ Sports reported ........
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