Why was the run defense so bad?
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if dorsey was solely reponsible for dumping meder and nassib, im cool on dorsey. We immediately missed their presence. How nassib gets cut after thosevtackles he made against the eagles first string is beyond me. And lo and behold a big shocker ogbah gets hurt first half of first game.......so now we have avery coming in who's a promising pass rusher but looks virtually helpless setting edges.
this is cleveland, this is the afc north.....ur going to get run on here. Weather goes south and teams run more. Its not advanced calculus. Keep guys u can sub in to shore up the run D
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I left the stoneage of RB protective goggles a couple of years ago. Now I actually wear about a 4 oz. hockey helmet with full face shield that can withstand the much harder force of a hockey puck. Added improvement of far better peripheral vision and can take a hit to the sidewalls (I've inadvertently tested that).
Wow... Does your husband play racquetball, too? Ya pussie...
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lol...
Meanwhile back at the thread...
As the PFF thread shows Kirksey played very poorly. He plays the same side as Nassib once did. I suspect he missed last year's DL's ability to keep him clean.
lol...
Meanwhile back at the thread...
As the PFF thread shows Kirksey played very poorly. He plays the same side as Nassib once did. I suspect he missed last year's DL's ability to keep him clean.
i couldnt commentbon that without viewing all his def snaps, but remembering the clips that tia posted there were all kinds of fat steelers at the 2nd level on every running play. So it would make sense what u say
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its more than mildly aggravating too.
its more than mildly aggravating too.
1)Zettel has jumped Chad Thomas on the depth chart. 2)Devaroe goes back to saints to steal us some formation calls.3) Odenigbo from Vikes should be better than Chris Smith in willie's system. D)Carl Davis will see more reps...our defensive pressure should get through Brees OL quicker than Bens. We may see a better D Sunday..
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
its more than mildly aggravating too.
1)Zettel has jumped Chad Thomas on the depth chart. 2)Devaroe goes back to saints to steal us some formation calls.3) Odenigbo from Vikes should be better than Chris Smith in willie's system. D)Carl Davis will see more reps...our defensive pressure should get through Brees OL quicker than Bens. We may see a better D Sunday..
1)Zettel has jumped Chad Thomas on the depth chart. 2)Devaroe goes back to saints to steal us some formation calls.3) Odenigbo from Vikes should be better than Chris Smith in willie's system. D)Carl Davis will see more reps...our defensive pressure should get through Brees OL quicker than Bens. We may see a better D Sunday..
carl davis is the one guy that intrigues me. Odenigbo looks like any journeyman DE we have in camp every year. We shall see. If these pickups prove mundane, with the vets we cut.....dorsey might have to fuk off. Those were not vets with high price tags we cut. Im wondering if dorsey thought mack was a lock so he prematurely gave up pieces he thought were superfluous with mack on the roster.
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I think the D line missed Danny Shelton in my opinion. No excuse for a running back on his first start to have a record day on us. Last year the run defense was good but we'd give up big plays to tight ends, this year we're giving up big plays to both.
I think the D line missed Danny Shelton in my opinion. No excuse for a running back on his first start to have a record day on us. Last year the run defense was good but we'd give up big plays to tight ends, this year we're giving up big plays to both.
Do you think that part of the Answer is because the Steelers have such a diverse offense it is difficult to shut them down in any phase? I said all along that Browns fans were going to be in for a rude awakening regarding Le Veon Bell. My belief was that like these Steeler a-holes always do, they seem to find great replacements out of nowhere. I think beating the Steelers requires a better than average offensive performance. Our D was shagged out. I just don't think it was a big failure to have a new guy run well. SO what? We jam the line and then Ben burns us downfield?
Given the rain and the Steelers talent, I think the defense more than accounted for itself. Garrett certainly kicked yours truly in the nutsack. I pray the guy stays healthy. He may not be vicious, but it doesn't matter, the sonofabitch is the most disruptive defensive player we have had since Eric Turner. If our O starts increasing the time of possession and putting up some points, I think the D gets even more disruptive.
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I think the D line missed Danny Shelton in my opinion. No excuse for a running back on his first start to have a record day on us. Last year the run defense was good but we'd give up big plays to tight ends, this year we're giving up big plays to both.
Do you think that part of the Answer is because the Steelers have such a diverse offense it is difficult to shut them down in any phase? I said all along that Browns fans were going to be in for a rude awakening regarding Le Veon Bell. My belief was that like these Steeler a-holes always do, they seem to find great replacements out of nowhere. I think beating the Steelers requires a better than average offensive performance. Our D was shagged out. I just don't think it was a big failure to have a new guy run well. SO what? We jam the line and then Ben burns us downfield?
Given the rain and the Steelers talent, I think the defense more than accounted for itself. Garrett certainly kicked yours truly in the nutsack. I pray the guy stays healthy. He may not be vicious, but it doesn't matter, the sonofabitch is the most disruptive defensive player we have had since Eric Turner. If our O starts increasing the time of possession and putting up some points, I think the D gets even more disruptive.
Do you think that part of the Answer is because the Steelers have such a diverse offense it is difficult to shut them down in any phase? I said all along that Browns fans were going to be in for a rude awakening regarding Le Veon Bell. My belief was that like these Steeler a-holes always do, they seem to find great replacements out of nowhere. I think beating the Steelers requires a better than average offensive performance. Our D was shagged out. I just don't think it was a big failure to have a new guy run well. SO what? We jam the line and then Ben burns us downfield?
Given the rain and the Steelers talent, I think the defense more than accounted for itself. Garrett certainly kicked yours truly in the nutsack. I pray the guy stays healthy. He may not be vicious, but it doesn't matter, the sonofabitch is the most disruptive defensive player we have had since Eric Turner. If our O starts increasing the time of possession and putting up some points, I think the D gets even more disruptive.
I was in the Tavern Sunday and made the observation that I was glad the O controlled the ball for a good deal of the time from the beginning of the 3rd Q because it gave our D an extra 10 minutes or so of added rest time to the halftime rest. It paid off big time in the 4th Q. So I totally agree that the more the O can stay on the field, the more disruptive the D can be in future games.
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Do you think that part of the Answer is because the Steelers have such a diverse offense it is difficult to shut them down in any phase? I said all along that Browns fans were going to be in for a rude awakening regarding Le Veon Bell. My belief was that like these Steeler a-holes always do, they seem to find great replacements out of nowhere. I think beating the Steelers requires a better than average offensive performance. Our D was shagged out. I just don't think it was a big failure to have a new guy run well. SO what? We jam the line and then Ben burns us downfield?
Given the rain and the Steelers talent, I think the defense more than accounted for itself. Garrett certainly kicked yours truly in the nutsack. I pray the guy stays healthy. He may not be vicious, but it doesn't matter, the sonofabitch is the most disruptive defensive player we have had since Eric Turner. If our O starts increasing the time of possession and putting up some points, I think the D gets even more disruptive.
I was in the Tavern Sunday and made the observation that I was glad the O controlled the ball for a good deal of the time from the beginning of the 3rd Q because it gave our D an extra 10 minutes or so of added rest time to the halftime rest. It paid off big time in the 4th Q. So I totally agree that the more the O can stay on the field, the more disruptive the D can be in future games.
I was in the Tavern Sunday and made the observation that I was glad the O controlled the ball for a good deal of the time from the beginning of the 3rd Q because it gave our D an extra 10 minutes or so of added rest time to the halftime rest. It paid off big time in the 4th Q. So I totally agree that the more the O can stay on the field, the more disruptive the D can be in future games.
They definately got an adrenaline rush in the last 8 minutes.
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its more than mildly aggravating too.
1)Zettel has jumped Chad Thomas on the depth chart. 2)Devaroe goes back to saints to steal us some formation calls.3) Odenigbo from Vikes should be better than Chris Smith in willie's system. D)Carl Davis will see more reps...our defensive pressure should get through Brees OL quicker than Bens. We may see a better D Sunday..
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