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  • @hoorta said:

    Tom at this point- it's not frustration- Gordon has frustrated us often enough. I my corner- it's disappointment that a guy with all the talent in the world didn't have enough discipline to use it. It would be so Browns for him to go on to another team and have a stellar career. Dorsey and Hue finally just ran out of patience- and the rest of us too.   

    Larry, we have been on the same page on this guy all along. I just spit fire and brimstone differently than you do. Along the way, I was condemning the NFL for what I thought was unfair punishment. Rather than mingle adjectives and feelings, my position is what I hope the organizations' is; It doesn't matter what happens in Gordon's future, we need to put him in our past. He needs to be gone. There are too many good players and positive energies with this team now to bee flucking around with this idiot.

    @ghoolie said:

    Larry, we have been on the same page on this guy all along. I just spit fire and brimstone differently than you do. Along the way, I was condemning the NFL for what I thought was unfair punishment. Rather than mingle adjectives and feelings, my position is what I hope the organizations' is; It doesn't matter what happens in Gordon's future, we need to put him in our past. He needs to be gone. There are too many good players and positive energies with this team now to bee flucking around with this idiot.

    Again- is this team cursed or what? We played well enough to win today. Then our kicker tries to do a Josh Allen imitation kicking- can't convert a kick. We win this game otherwise. It's always something...

  • Larry, it isn't always something. It is the same thing. Offense wins. Everything else is just fluff. Since 1999, you have argued with me, and the one thing consistent with the Browns is that they have purposely not participated in taking the top tier offensive playmakers. Ben, AP, Julio Jones, Trubisky, Barkley, and now this year? More meaningless players.

    Be honest, can you not at least look at the history of your posts and realize that maybe you continue to bark up the wrong tree? Larry, buddy, if I had a nickel for every time you have told me........

    • if not for that playu
    • if he just makes that catch
    • if they don't throw that flag
    • if he just makes that kick
    • we played good enough to win

    I really would have a lot of nickels. You think getting a new kicker will solve this plague? A KICKER? That's the magic? Larry, as long as I have known you, you treat the symptoms and not the illness. You don't draft a Zumba instructor and a midget QB, you don't sign a run-first QB, you don't fill the backfield with average backs, and expect to win football games. You don't draft an OL #1 when you have no ability to score.

    The reasons the Browns continue to lose is because they have no offensive weapons. They cannot put games away Offense always has, and offense always will make the difference between champions and nobodies.

    The only reason the Browns lost today is that they can't score touchdowns. You cannot depend on a kicker every single week. You look at 2 missed field goals and say to yourself " if only the kicker did this, we win"....I look at the entire game. I see a defense that holds the score down, I see two key turnovers, and I see a team that has every opportunity to win, but instead leaves the door open for teams to make a comeback. Bro, when you can't put a team away, you give away the momentum and you give away the game.

    Marty and Kosar go down in history as losers for the very same reason.

    The Browns missed the boat on this draft. Barkely was the right pick and one of the BIG QBs would have been available. HYOu mark my words, Mayfiled is not going to be much. If he was, he would have outshined Tarkenton. All season long, you will be saying the same thing...."we played good enough to win. The problem is, we don't draft good enough to win.

    It's sad, buddy. But jeezus, how many times are the Browns going to make the same exact choices and realize that it is offense, offense offense that is the missing link?

  • Larry, it isn't always something. It is the same thing. Offense wins. Everything else is just fluff. Since 1999, you have argued with me, and the one thing consistent with the Browns is that they have purposely not participated in taking the top tier offensive playmakers. Ben, AP, Julio Jones, Trubisky, Barkley, and now this year? More meaningless players.

    Be honest, can you not at least look at the history of your posts and realize that maybe you continue to bark up the wrong tree? Larry, buddy, if I had a nickel for every time you have told me........

    • if not for that playu
    • if he just makes that catch
    • if they don't throw that flag
    • if he just makes that kick
    • we played good enough to win

    I really would have a lot of nickels. You think getting a new kicker will solve this plague? A KICKER? That's the magic? Larry, as long as I have known you, you treat the symptoms and not the illness. You don't draft a Zumba instructor and a midget QB, you don't sign a run-first QB, you don't fill the backfield with average backs, and expect to win football games. You don't draft an OL #1 when you have no ability to score.

    The reasons the Browns continue to lose is because they have no offensive weapons. They cannot put games away Offense always has, and offense always will make the difference between champions and nobodies.

    The only reason the Browns lost today is that they can't score touchdowns. You cannot depend on a kicker every single week. You look at 2 missed field goals and say to yourself " if only the kicker did this, we win"....I look at the entire game. I see a defense that holds the score down, I see two key turnovers, and I see a team that has every opportunity to win, but instead leaves the door open for teams to make a comeback. Bro, when you can't put a team away, you give away the momentum and you give away the game.

    Marty and Kosar go down in history as losers for the very same reason.

    The Browns missed the boat on this draft. Barkely was the right pick and one of the BIG QBs would have been available. HYOu mark my words, Mayfiled is not going to be much. If he was, he would have outshined Tarkenton. All season long, you will be saying the same thing...."we played good enough to win. The problem is, we don't draft good enough to win.

    It's sad, buddy. But jeezus, how many times are the Browns going to make the same exact choices and realize that it is offense, offense offense that is the missing link?

    @ghoolie said:

    Larry, it isn't always something. It is the same thing. Offense wins. Everything else is just fluff. Since 1999, you have argued with me, and the one thing consistent with the Browns is that they have purposely not participated in taking the top tier offensive playmakers. Ben, AP, Julio Jones, Trubisky, Barkley, and now this year? More meaningless players.

    Be honest, can you not at least look at the history of your posts and realize that maybe you continue to bark up the wrong tree? Larry, buddy, if I had a nickel for every time you have told me........

    • if not for that playu
    • if he just makes that catch
    • if they don't throw that flag
    • if he just makes that kick
    • we played good enough to win

    I really would have a lot of nickels. You think getting a new kicker will solve this plague? A KICKER? That's the magic? Larry, as long as I have known you, you treat the symptoms and not the illness. You don't draft a Zumba instructor and a midget QB, you don't sign a run-first QB, you don't fill the backfield with average backs, and expect to win football games. You don't draft an OL #1 when you have no ability to score.

    The reasons the Browns continue to lose is because they have no offensive weapons. They cannot put games away Offense always has, and offense always will make the difference between champions and nobodies.

    The only reason the Browns lost today is that they can't score touchdowns. You cannot depend on a kicker every single week. You look at 2 missed field goals and say to yourself " if only the kicker did this, we win"....I look at the entire game. I see a defense that holds the score down, I see two key turnovers, and I see a team that has every opportunity to win, but instead leaves the door open for teams to make a comeback. Bro, when you can't put a team away, you give away the momentum and you give away the game.

    Marty and Kosar go down in history as losers for the very same reason.

    The Browns missed the boat on this draft. Barkely was the right pick and one of the BIG QBs would have been available. HYOu mark my words, Mayfiled is not going to be much. If he was, he would have outshined Tarkenton. All season long, you will be saying the same thing...."we played good enough to win. The problem is, we don't draft good enough to win.

    It's sad, buddy. But jeezus, how many times are the Browns going to make the same exact choices and realize that it is offense, offense offense that is the missing link?

    can't believe i'm going to say this but spot on

  • @tour2ma said:

    ... and the beat goes on...

    He hasn't been released yet...

    Released is being used, but I think "waived" is the proper term (kinda like collusion vs. conspiracy... but I digress).

    Anywho... were he waived he'd have to clear waivers to become an UFA, and the odds of that happening given the trade inquiries that came rolling in on the news are slim and none.

    He doesn't have to go through waivers.   He's a vested vet so if he's released he becomes a free agent.  That's why its put out that we are going to release him.  Find out who wants him bad enough to give us something for him.   Once he's released and a free agent he can go anywhere he wants to go.   Dallas and SF have shown interest.

    @mark-o said:

    He's a vested vet so if he's released he becomes a free agent.

    Is he? I thought he lost 2016 due his final game suspension with JFF... ?

  • That's what I read yesterday afternoon.   No idea if it's true or not.

  • With Gordon gone we have zero red zone threats on this team.

  • SOMEBODY BETTER MAN THE Shmuck UP AND ADMIT THAT THEY OVERREACTED!!!! APOLIGIZE FOR MAKING STUPID THREATS AND NOT KEEPING PLAYER DISIPLINE IN HOUSE... 

  • SOMEBODY BETTER MAN THE Shmuck UP AND ADMIT THAT THEY OVERREACTED!!!! APOLIGIZE FOR MAKING STUPID THREATS AND NOT KEEPING PLAYER DISIPLINE IN HOUSE... 

    @poeticg said:

    SOMEBODY BETTER MAN THE Shmuck UP AND ADMIT THAT THEY OVERREACTED!!!! APOLIGIZE FOR MAKING STUPID THREATS AND NOT KEEPING PLAYER DISIPLINE IN HOUSE... 

    Long time no see, PoG! 

    Here you go, your assignments for this season: defend Hue, Gonzalez and Josh Gordon. 

  • SOMEBODY BETTER MAN THE Shmuck UP AND ADMIT THAT THEY OVERREACTED!!!! APOLIGIZE FOR MAKING STUPID THREATS AND NOT KEEPING PLAYER DISIPLINE IN HOUSE... 

    @poeticg said:

    SOMEBODY BETTER MAN THE Shmuck UP AND ADMIT THAT THEY OVERREACTED!!!! APOLIGIZE FOR MAKING STUPID THREATS AND NOT KEEPING PLAYER DISIPLINE IN HOUSE... 

    ...... dude, I just can't even. 

  • @d-bone said:

    .... Don't forget Trent. 

    I'm trying to guess which is going to be the storyline this season for PoG. Have you got in mind any other dubious Browns player you think he can back? 

  • @poeticg said:

    SOMEBODY BETTER MAN THE Shmuck UP AND ADMIT THAT THEY OVERREACTED!!!! APOLIGIZE FOR MAKING STUPID THREATS AND NOT KEEPING PLAYER DISIPLINE IN HOUSE... 

    ...... dude, I just can't even. 

    @d-bone said:

    ...... dude, I just can't even. 

    It isn't even fun anymore. 

    This feels forced from him. Almost like "oh man, I forgot to completely spazz out about Gordon like I did Haden last year!". 

  • @d-bone said:

    .... Don't forget Trent. 

    I'm trying to guess which is going to be the storyline this season for PoG. Have you got in mind any other dubious Browns player you think he can back? 

    @nero said:

    I'm trying to guess which is going to be the storyline this season for PoG. Have you got in mind any other dubious Browns player you think he can back? 

    I'm still trying to forget his creepy obsession over Hogan. 

  • @nero said:

    I'm trying to guess which is going to be the storyline this season for PoG. Have you got in mind any other dubious Browns player you think he can back? 

    I'm still trying to forget his creepy obsession over Hogan. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm still trying to forget his creepy obsession over Hogan. 

    I bet you Hogan is too.

  • With Gordon gone we have zero red zone threats on this team.

    @baconhound said:

    With Gordon gone we have zero red zone threats on this team.

    njuko (whatever with the spelling) was supposed to be that guy to bad he can't catch

  • Hogan is going to take over that Bronco's team shortly. 

  • sydS syd

    @baconhound said:

    With Gordon gone we have zero red zone threats on this team.

    njuko (whatever with the spelling) was supposed to be that guy to bad he can't catch

    @syd said:

    njuko (whatever with the spelling) was supposed to be that guy to bad he can't catch

    Another great pick.  Gotta love drafting a project TE in the 1st round.  I need to do a draft search for all the fools who were talking up that pick.  Browns Kool-Aid causing delusion and amnesia since 1999

  • Hogan is going to take over that Bronco's team shortly. 

    @poeticg said:

    Hogan is going to take over that Bronco's team shortly. 

    they turn him into a receiver ?

  • Hogan is going to take over that Bronco's team shortly. 

    @poeticg said:

    Hogan is going to take over that Bronco's team shortly. 

    Ben Hogan? LOL

  • sydS syd

    @baconhound said:

    With Gordon gone we have zero red zone threats on this team.

    njuko (whatever with the spelling) was supposed to be that guy to bad he can't catch

    @syd said:

      42 minutes ago, BaconHound said:

    With Gordon gone we have zero red zone threats on this team.

    @syd said:

    njuko (whatever with the spelling) was supposed to be that guy to bad he can't catch

    DeValve was also supposed to be an end zone threat.  

    ....I guess Willies isn't anywhere near ready to see the field.  I like his size.  

  • With Gordon gone we have zero red zone threats on this team.

    @baconhound said:

    With Gordon gone we have zero red zone threats on this team.

    WTF? He isn't a red zone threat. Even if he was playing, Who TF is going to throw to him? Sockeyed Tarkenton? How the hell can anyone expect to win with a schidt QB?