Baker time
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It's impossible to really know. What I've been saying FOREVER is that Tyrod can win you enough games IF you have solid defense AND special teams. With Tyrod, every extra point counts. Every yard of field position is crucial. Every, single FG is absolutely imperative. Tyrod has done enough to be 2-0. Has he played great? Not even close. Maybe he even cost us the first game, but we still had a chance to win and special teams effectively lost that opportunity. Same thing yesterday. Tyrod did enough to win but since he doesn't have the support of quality (or even DECENT) special teams, he's going to lose more than he wins.
So perhaps I've answered my own question. Since it's obvious we don't HAVE competent special teams, and we're not going to just "get better", maybe it IS time to start Baker Mayfield. I honestly don't know.
I think my biggest hesitation is that we have such a short week of preparation, seeing as how we play THURSDAY NIGHT somehow. And Darnold is the real deal btw. I know he didn't win yesterday, and he threw a costly pick in the end zone, but his receiver didn't do him ANY favors on that play, AND the corner made a RIDICULOUS play for that pick. We're in deep trouble, and this is really going to shock everyone, but I don't see us beating the Jets either. Shocker, I know. In fact, I think our team might be "broken". We lose Josh in a rather strange fashion, and we lose (the tie is a loss, let's be clear) every game in traditional, heart-breaking Browns fashion....we're broken. Wouldn't surprise me if we lose by 20+ points, our players get booed off the field, and Hue throws in Baker Mayfield in a last ditch effort to save his job but Baker gets his butt destroyed because we're down 3+ scores and the Jets know we're passing every down.
Mark it down.
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Dunno, darren... Allen had some moments yesterday. I think they have their guy.
As for Baker... I'm ready. And from his look in the sideline shots of him... so is he.
Dunno, darren... Allen had some moments yesterday. I think they have their guy.
As for Baker... I'm ready. And from his look in the sideline shots of him... so is he.
Those camera shots of Mayfield on the sideline crack me up. The camera crew game plans for the game just like the teams game plan for the opponent, mostly to not only tell the tale of the game but also to expound upon sub plot lines.
I noticed it last week too. After every 3 and out, or after every 3rd incompletion from Taylor, there’s a shot of Mayfield on the sideline. Bandana and game face on. Ready to heed the call!
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We could trade Tyrod to the Bills they need a QB
Yeh, like PIT could have gotten Martavis Bryant while he was out of football and traded him to the Raiders again for a 3rd round pick again.
I love Taylor, and his reputation for having a weak arm is wrong. That Taylor to Callaway pass was in the air for 65 yards and there was no tail wind.
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Mahomes sat...and sat to awesome results.
Baker mayfield needs to sit.
Tyrod did not lose us the game yesterday.
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I suppose we have to expect about 4 rocky games for the offense. But this defense is kickass like I figured.
Special teams - what a freaking disaster.
what the )(*& is up with the blockin in the back?
And our kicker - what ...the....
is he hurt? was hurt? just lost his mind and body at the same time?
Can they go back and get the kicker they cut? There are folks who think he
kicked so well that he won the position on the roster.
crap.
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Mahomes sat...and sat to awesome results.
Baker mayfield needs to sit.
Tyrod did not lose us the game yesterday.
Mahomes sat...and sat to awesome results.
Baker mayfield needs to sit.
Tyrod did not lose us the game yesterday.
true - the Chiefs do have an established LT, Fisher, Sammy Watkins and Tyreek Hill at wr,s, Kelce at TE,
and obviously well established Mitchell Swartz sp? at RT....
again, Baker has a magic about him - he isn't tentative, makes great decisions, has a lot stronger zip on this throws, is more
elusive in the pocket...etc.
But at least for another few games, Tyrod deserves the chance to rise to the occasion. I hope. Meanwhile, Baker is really learning a lot from watching Tyrod and the offense work.
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I would rather see Bake go through an Aaron Rodgers / Steve Young* development than get hammered for no reason a la Joey Harrington or Sam Bradford.
Browns are a gnats-butt from being 2-0 and the defense is playing lights-out. Win some games this year, get experience at winning as a team with TT for now.
There's time to bolster the O-line and prepare for the prepared Baker to go out and make a playoff run.
*HOF QBs
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Mahomes sat...and sat to awesome results.
Baker mayfield needs to sit.
Tyrod did not lose us the game yesterday.
Mahomes sat...and sat to awesome results.
Baker mayfield needs to sit.
Tyrod did not lose us the game yesterday.
YES! Nor did he lose game 1. The Cleveland Browns have between a zero and minus 32 chance to even get any shot at the 2018 playoffs why in the world would anybody want to rush another rookie into a starting QB job in the NFL only the hardest job in all of professional team sports. Didn't we lean anything from 2017?
Don't worry QB spot #30 will come soon enough like in one injury -but- hopefully that it a long time away yet.
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I would rather see Bake go through an Aaron Rodgers / Steve Young* development than get hammered for no reason a la Joey Harrington or Sam Bradford.
Browns are a gnats-butt from being 2-0 and the defense is playing lights-out. Win some games this year, get experience at winning as a team with TT for now.
There's time to bolster the O-line and prepare for the prepared Baker to go out and make a playoff run.
*HOF QBs
I would rather see Bake go through an Aaron Rodgers / Steve Young* development than get hammered for no reason a la Joey Harrington or Sam Bradford.
Browns are a gnats-butt from being 2-0 and the defense is playing lights-out. Win some games this year, get experience at winning as a team with TT for now.
There's time to bolster the O-line and prepare for the prepared Baker to go out and make a playoff run.
*HOF QBs
Welcome to the board, and good points.
I’m a big Baker guy myself, but have no qualms setting the table properly before he takes a seat.
Need the forks aligned properly, spoons and knives, bowls and cups and such, so that he can simply sit down, put a napkin on his lap, and Feast away.
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Mahomes sat...and sat to awesome results.
Baker mayfield needs to sit.
Tyrod did not lose us the game yesterday.
Mahomes sat...and sat to awesome results. Baker mayfield needs to sit. Tyrod did not lose us the game yesterday.
Wouldn't hurt if TT posted a career year as Alex Smith did in front of Mahommes last season... just sayin'...
and obviously well established Mitchell Swartz sp? at RT....
The name is: Schwartz...
It was nice watching him collapse the left side of the Steeler DL once when KC was trying to run out the clock late in the game. He looks huge now...
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Tyrod fukin blows...
But at least he's better than Kizer..
If he can't lead the offense this Thursday cut the chord on him... Throw in Baker
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We’ll see Baker start when the coaching seat starts getting hot for Hue.
What the exact win/loss ratio will be is subjective.
My opinion would be 0-4-1 and Hue will be in desperation mode.
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We’ll see Baker start when the coaching seat starts getting hot for Hue.
What the exact win/loss ratio will be is subjective.
My opinion would be 0-4-1 and Hue will be in desperation mode.
We’ll see Baker start when the coaching seat starts getting hot for Hue.
What the exact win/loss ratio will be is subjective.
My opinion would be 0-4-1 and Hue will be in desperation mode.
"IF" maybe the BROWNS had a half decent kicker, beat pizzburgh game 1 and were 2-0 right now the can hue and play Baker now talk would be a whole lot quieter.
A freaking kicker, hmmmmm. Oh well......
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It's not time to put Baker in. Tyrod played better this past week. Let Baker wait some more. Remember, the offensive supporting cast around the QB has taken a hit at WR with past 1st and 2nd round picks proving worthless.
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I would not play Mayfield until the running game improves. If you can’t run the ball Baker will be running for his life.
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Dunno, darren... Allen had some moments yesterday. I think they have their guy.
As for Baker... I'm ready. And from his look in the sideline shots of him... so is he.
As for Baker... I'm ready. And from his look in the sideline shots of him... so is he.
A little surprised you are already calling for Baker, Tour.
For me I don’t know if I’m ready, the offense has looked pitiful so far but I think it’s more scheme then Tyrods play.
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It doesn’t help when OC calls a reverse when we were up by 2 points with about 6 minutes left and trying to put together a nice drive to kill the clock out.
That shows no confidence in Tyrod. I was so mad, 2nd and 18 after that..
The other time the reverse to Callaway worked and setup the Hyde touchdown, but after that let the players play, coach!
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We’ll see Baker start when the coaching seat starts getting hot for Hue.
What the exact win/loss ratio will be is subjective.
My opinion would be 0-4-1 and Hue will be in desperation mode.
"IF" maybe the BROWNS had a half decent kicker, beat pizzburgh game 1 and were 2-0 right now the can hue and play Baker now talk would be a whole lot quieter.
A freaking kicker, hmmmmm. Oh well......
"IF" maybe the BROWNS had a half decent kicker, beat pizzburgh game 1 and were 2-0 right now the can hue and play Baker now talk would be a whole lot quieter.
A freaking kicker, hmmmmm. Oh well......
The Browns are a competent kicker away from the Browns being 2-0 and averaging 23.5 points a game.
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