is hue gone on monday?
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Landry is a LEGIT #2 and would thrive opposite a player like Gordon. Now he's going to get all of the attention.
Gordon, Landry, Callaway, Higgings was the group. We're now missing a HUGE piece to the puzzle and that pisses me off.
If this was over a failed test or something like that I could understand. But, this was something different and it doesn't feel right. It feels vengeful or done in spite.
Wasn't well thought out, well planned or well executed. If they were going to trade him they should have built him up and done it before the trade deadline and they could have got a 1st/2nd rounder for him. Knee jerk reaction from a FO jerk that just got here in December.
Landry is a LEGIT #2 and would thrive opposite a player like Gordon. Now he's going to get all of the attention.
Gordon, Landry, Callaway, Higgings was the group. We're now missing a HUGE piece to the puzzle and that pisses me off.
If this was over a failed test or something like that I could understand. But, this was something different and it doesn't feel right. It feels vengeful or done in spite.
Wasn't well thought out, well planned or well executed. If they were going to trade him they should have built him up and done it before the trade deadline and they could have got a 1st/2nd rounder for him. Knee jerk reaction from a FO jerk that just got here in December.
Hardly knee jerk, they were most certainly aware of his history. Call it a cumulative effect. It's the other way around Po, the FO finally got tired of Josh jerking them around. Or would you want me to list the number of times he's been suspended? Just this year, training camp is about to start, and Josh "needs more time to get his head straight", and heads to rehab again. I've lost track of how many times. Then on the eve of heading to New Orleans- (after the game plan is in place) and Hue and Haley have made him a prominent part of it- he has a hamstring issue, which by Monday is miraculously gone.
Face it, if Josh was a fifth round nobody, he'd have been gone in 2013. The only reason we kept hanging on was because he's immensely talented. I have no doubt this year, he was given the terms of staying with the team in writing, and there was a zero tolerance policy if he screwed up again.
Here's the timeline Po, and it's why he isn't a Brown anymore. One more failed drug test, and he's done for good. http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/josh-gordon-timeline-news-cleveland-browns-nfl-reinstatement-denied-suspension/1m9gwhfoku9ns1ozy4pktmnj4k
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Knee jerk reaction?!!...he's had 4 years to sort himself out ?
Pats have taken a gamble on him...and thats exactly what he is...a gamble. The difference is the pats will have a look and if he steps out of line he'll be gone in the blink of an eye. They won't be relying on him like we are. They have a roster that is packed with talent.
Browns on the other hand have been relying on him for years...giving everyone false hope. A super talented WR is useless if he's not on the field. Hanging on to the hope he will sort himself out is unfair on other guys who really want it. I'd rather have Higgins on the field busting his gut every game.
Absolutely the correct call imo.
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Landry is a LEGIT #2 and would thrive opposite a player like Gordon. Now he's going to get all of the attention.
Gordon, Landry, Callaway, Higgings was the group. We're now missing a HUGE piece to the puzzle and that pisses me off.
If this was over a failed test or something like that I could understand. But, this was something different and it doesn't feel right. It feels vengeful or done in spite.
Wasn't well thought out, well planned or well executed. If they were going to trade him they should have built him up and done it before the trade deadline and they could have got a 1st/2nd rounder for him. Knee jerk reaction from a FO jerk that just got here in December.
Hardly knee jerk, they were most certainly aware of his history. Call it a cumulative effect. It's the other way around Po, the FO finally got tired of Josh jerking them around. Or would you want me to list the number of times he's been suspended? Just this year, training camp is about to start, and Josh "needs more time to get his head straight", and heads to rehab again. I've lost track of how many times. Then on the eve of heading to New Orleans- (after the game plan is in place) and Hue and Haley have made him a prominent part of it- he has a hamstring issue, which by Monday is miraculously gone.
Face it, if Josh was a fifth round nobody, he'd have been gone in 2013. The only reason we kept hanging on was because he's immensely talented. I have no doubt this year, he was given the terms of staying with the team in writing, and there was a zero tolerance policy if he screwed up again.
Here's the timeline Po, and it's why he isn't a Brown anymore. One more failed drug test, and he's done for good. http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/josh-gordon-timeline-news-cleveland-browns-nfl-reinstatement-denied-suspension/1m9gwhfoku9ns1ozy4pktmnj4k
Hardly knee jerk, they were most certainly aware of his history. Call it a cumulative effect. It's the other way around Po, the FO finally got tired of Josh jerking them around. Or would you want me to list the number of times he's been suspended? Just this year, training camp is about to start, and Josh "needs more time to get his head straight", and heads to rehab again. I've lost track of how many times. Then on the eve of heading to New Orleans- (after the game plan is in place) and Hue and Haley have made him a prominent part of it- he has a hamstring issue, which by Monday is miraculously gone.
Face it, if Josh was a fifth round nobody, he'd have been gone in 2013. The only reason we kept hanging on was because he's immensely talented. I have no doubt this year, he was given the terms of staying with the team in writing, and there was a zero tolerance policy if he screwed up again.
Here's the timeline Po, and it's why he isn't a Brown anymore. One more failed drug test, and he's done for good. http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/josh-gordon-timeline-news-cleveland-browns-nfl-reinstatement-denied-suspension/1m9gwhfoku9ns1ozy4pktmnj4k
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Chicago won. But we have the huebatross.....1-32-1...how much longer?
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Promoting the DC or OC to HC won't call for a complete overhaul. Hue is useless as it is. Addition by subtraction. You all subscribe to that anyway.
Promoting the DC or OC to HC won't call for a complete overhaul. Hue is useless as it is. Addition by subtraction. You all subscribe to that anyway.
Sometimes a Coordinator is a better Coordinator than Head Coach right Wade Phillips? Right Norv Turner? Right Lindy Infante? Who's ready to take over as DC or OC on this staff? Have you thought about that? Zampese did a horrible job as OC in Cincy. Some of you guys are talking out your poop shoot on this... If if the Interim HC fails - then we bring in a brand new offense and a brand new defense again.
If Gregg Williams or Todd Haley was meant to be a Head Coach they would have remained in that capacity... I know you're thinking the same applies to Hue (and you may be right); but we're only 2 games deep into a new OC while our defense is improving. Let's see what happens. The time to hire an upgrade or keeper at HC isn't 2 games into a regular season.
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Hue is a spineless piece of garbage with NO redeeming qualities what-so-ever. A canned response machine that makes me sick to my stomach.
Yesterday he shied away from all Gordon questions and said he'd address them today. They trade him away and all the shitbag can say is, he's a patriot now and we're moving on, don't want to get into it, gutless chump- couldn't even dive into the lake by himself... he's so full of Sheet he'd probably sink to the bottom.
Hue is a spineless piece of garbage with NO redeeming qualities what-so-ever. A canned response machine that makes me sick to my stomach.
Yesterday he shied away from all Gordon questions and said he'd address them today. They trade him away and all the shitbag can say is, he's a patriot now and we're moving on, don't want to get into it, gutless chump- couldn't even dive into the lake by himself... he's so full of Sheet he'd probably sink to the bottom.
What would have had him say?
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Hue Jackson doesn't kick FG's. I can't blame him this season. He had our team in position to win each game, and true to form, we found ways NOT to win. I can't blame him, I really can't.
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Hardly knee jerk, they were most certainly aware of his history. Call it a cumulative effect. It's the other way around Po, the FO finally got tired of Josh jerking them around. Or would you want me to list the number of times he's been suspended? Just this year, training camp is about to start, and Josh "needs more time to get his head straight", and heads to rehab again. I've lost track of how many times. Then on the eve of heading to New Orleans- (after the game plan is in place) and Hue and Haley have made him a prominent part of it- he has a hamstring issue, which by Monday is miraculously gone.
Face it, if Josh was a fifth round nobody, he'd have been gone in 2013. The only reason we kept hanging on was because he's immensely talented. I have no doubt this year, he was given the terms of staying with the team in writing, and there was a zero tolerance policy if he screwed up again.
Here's the timeline Po, and it's why he isn't a Brown anymore. One more failed drug test, and he's done for good. http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/josh-gordon-timeline-news-cleveland-browns-nfl-reinstatement-denied-suspension/1m9gwhfoku9ns1ozy4pktmnj4k
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What's up with this "Sorry, you cannot add any more reactions today" feedback limit?
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What's up with this "Sorry, you cannot add any more reactions today" feedback limit?
I've hit the wall on likes a few times too Tour, not sure how many you get each day, but it's not unlimited. It rolls over on a 24 hour cycle.
What would have had him say?
LOL, here's the uncensored version. "We finally got so pissed off at Josh's antics, we decided enough was enough. Plus we thought he was probably back to doing drugs and booze again. that phony hamstring issue didn't sit well either."
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Knee jerk reaction?!!...he's had 4 years to sort himself out ?
Pats have taken a gamble on him...and thats exactly what he is...a gamble. The difference is the pats will have a look and if he steps out of line he'll be gone in the blink of an eye. They won't be relying on him like we are. They have a roster that is packed with talent.
Browns on the other hand have been relying on him for years...giving everyone false hope. A super talented WR is useless if he's not on the field. Hanging on to the hope he will sort himself out is unfair on other guys who really want it. I'd rather have Higgins on the field busting his gut every game.
Absolutely the correct call imo.
Knee jerk reaction?!!...he's had 4 years to sort himself out ?
Pats have taken a gamble on him...and thats exactly what he is...a gamble. The difference is the pats will have a look and if he steps out of line he'll be gone in the blink of an eye. They won't be relying on him like we are. They have a roster that is packed with talent.
Browns on the other hand have been relying on him for years...giving everyone false hope. A super talented WR is useless if he's not on the field. Hanging on to the hope he will sort himself out is unfair on other guys who really want it. I'd rather have Higgins on the field busting his gut every game.
Absolutely the correct call imo.
Actually the Pats are thin at WR, until Edelman comes back. I'm not going to go to NFL.com and dig up the article, but they spelled out pretty clearly why they took a flyer on Josh. The short version is losing to the Jags, they just double covered Gronk on every play, and dared Brady to beat them with the rest of his rag-tag group of WRs. With Gordon and Edleman on board, teams won't be able to do that.
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Knee jerk reaction?!!...he's had 4 years to sort himself out ?
Pats have taken a gamble on him...and thats exactly what he is...a gamble. The difference is the pats will have a look and if he steps out of line he'll be gone in the blink of an eye. They won't be relying on him like we are. They have a roster that is packed with talent.
Browns on the other hand have been relying on him for years...giving everyone false hope. A super talented WR is useless if he's not on the field. Hanging on to the hope he will sort himself out is unfair on other guys who really want it. I'd rather have Higgins on the field busting his gut every game.
Absolutely the correct call imo.
Actually the Pats are thin at WR, until Edelman comes back. I'm not going to go to NFL.com and dig up the article, but they spelled out pretty clearly why they took a flyer on Josh. The short version is losing to the Jags, they just double covered Gronk on every play, and dared Brady to beat them with the rest of his rag-tag group of WRs. With Gordon and Edleman on board, teams won't be able to do that.
Actually the Pats are thin at WR, until Edelman comes back. I'm not going to go to NFL.com and dig up the article, but they spelled out pretty clearly why they took a flyer on Josh. The short version is losing to the Jags, they just double covered Gronk on every play, and dared Brady to beat them with the rest of his rag-tag group of WRs. With Gordon and Edleman on board, teams won't be able to do that.
If Gordon is on the field, and like we've ALL said a 100 times, that's a giant if...but IF he's on the field with Gronk and Edelman, it's not going to be fun defending them. You've got Edelman on the choice routes, you've got Gronk in the middle, and you've got Josh flying around deep and wherever else. Here's the other thing: Josh is ABSOLUTELY electric with the ball in his hands. His YAC production and ability to separate after the catch are top notch. Does ANYONE hit receivers in stride better than Brady? I mean, not really, right? We couldn't Josh the ball in stride if we walked down the field and HANDED it to him, but that will NOT be an issue with the Patriots. As we know better than anybody, getting Josh actually ON the field is a difficult task, but if he's there....watch out.
Also, don't forget Josh is actually injured, too. He injured the hamstring right before coming to the preseason, and he re-injured it during his off the books promo shoot. He may be more injured than we think.
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What's up with this "Sorry, you cannot add any more reactions today" feedback limit?
I've hit the wall on likes a few times too Tour, not sure how many you get each day, but it's not unlimited. It rolls over on a 24 hour cycle.
What would have had him say?
LOL, here's the uncensored version. "We finally got so pissed off at Josh's antics, we decided enough was enough. Plus we thought he was probably back to doing drugs and booze again. that phony hamstring issue didn't sit well either."
I've hit the wall on likes a few times too Tour, not sure how many you get each day, but it's not unlimited. It rolls over on a 24 hour cycle.
LOL, here's the uncensored version. "We finally got so pissed off at Josh's antics, we decided enough was enough. Plus we thought he was probably back to doing drugs and booze again. that phony hamstring issue didn't sit well either."
Sure, those are probably Hue's private feelings.
But I am asking POG what HE thinks Hue should say? I am looking for his warped interpretation of what the press conference should have been like.
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Knee jerk reaction?!!...he's had 4 years to sort himself out ?
Pats have taken a gamble on him...and thats exactly what he is...a gamble. The difference is the pats will have a look and if he steps out of line he'll be gone in the blink of an eye. They won't be relying on him like we are. They have a roster that is packed with talent.
Browns on the other hand have been relying on him for years...giving everyone false hope. A super talented WR is useless if he's not on the field. Hanging on to the hope he will sort himself out is unfair on other guys who really want it. I'd rather have Higgins on the field busting his gut every game.
Absolutely the correct call imo.
Actually the Pats are thin at WR, until Edelman comes back. I'm not going to go to NFL.com and dig up the article, but they spelled out pretty clearly why they took a flyer on Josh. The short version is losing to the Jags, they just double covered Gronk on every play, and dared Brady to beat them with the rest of his rag-tag group of WRs. With Gordon and Edleman on board, teams won't be able to do that.
Actually the Pats are thin at WR, until Edelman comes back. I'm not going to go to NFL.com and dig up the article, but they spelled out pretty clearly why they took a flyer on Josh. The short version is losing to the Jags, they just double covered Gronk on every play, and dared Brady to beat them with the rest of his rag-tag group of WRs. With Gordon and Edleman on board, teams won't be able to do that.
And the other comment I read was that it's basically a try out for them anways until Edelman comes back. If he can't cut it (and many can't with the Patriots) they'll just release him to...and boy wouldn't that be funny after the last 24 hours of whining around here?
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Actually the Pats are thin at WR, until Edelman comes back. I'm not going to go to NFL.com and dig up the article, but they spelled out pretty clearly why they took a flyer on Josh. The short version is losing to the Jags, they just double covered Gronk on every play, and dared Brady to beat them with the rest of his rag-tag group of WRs. With Gordon and Edleman on board, teams won't be able to do that.
If Gordon is on the field, and like we've ALL said a 100 times, that's a giant if...but IF he's on the field with Gronk and Edelman, it's not going to be fun defending them. You've got Edelman on the choice routes, you've got Gronk in the middle, and you've got Josh flying around deep and wherever else. Here's the other thing: Josh is ABSOLUTELY electric with the ball in his hands. His YAC production and ability to separate after the catch are top notch. Does ANYONE hit receivers in stride better than Brady? I mean, not really, right? We couldn't Josh the ball in stride if we walked down the field and HANDED it to him, but that will NOT be an issue with the Patriots. As we know better than anybody, getting Josh actually ON the field is a difficult task, but if he's there....watch out.
Also, don't forget Josh is actually injured, too. He injured the hamstring right before coming to the preseason, and he re-injured it during his off the books promo shoot. He may be more injured than we think.
Also, don't forget Josh is actually injured, too. He injured the hamstring right before coming to the preseason, and he re-injured it during his off the books promo shoot. He may be more injured than we think.
Had an MRI yesterday....the hamstring magically repaired itself as soon as he was traded.
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Also, don't forget Josh is actually injured, too. He injured the hamstring right before coming to the preseason, and he re-injured it during his off the books promo shoot. He may be more injured than we think.
Had an MRI yesterday....the hamstring magically repaired itself as soon as he was traded.
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Actually the Pats are thin at WR, until Edelman comes back. I'm not going to go to NFL.com and dig up the article, but they spelled out pretty clearly why they took a flyer on Josh. The short version is losing to the Jags, they just double covered Gronk on every play, and dared Brady to beat them with the rest of his rag-tag group of WRs. With Gordon and Edleman on board, teams won't be able to do that.
And the other comment I read was that it's basically a try out for them anways until Edelman comes back. If he can't cut it (and many can't with the Patriots) they'll just release him to...and boy wouldn't that be funny after the last 24 hours of whining around here?
And the other comment I read was that it's basically a try out for them anways until Edelman comes back. If he can't cut it (and many can't with the Patriots) they'll just release him to...and boy wouldn't that be funny after the last 24 hours of whining around here?
Only yesterday someone was bemoaning the fact that coleman was now with the pats....as in, he's not good enough for the browns but he is for them. Yeah well now he's not, binned in the blink of an eye. Josh could well go the same route...BB certainly won't be swayed by sentiment, it will be yes or no.
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