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  • chris smith/genard avery>ogbah. Smith was a pleasant surprise to me this past sunday. 

    my issue with this upcoming game is the turnaround. I noticed a slight dropoff in myles's getoff against the saints, which was enough for the LT to absorb his rush...the power edge moves just werent there and that was on a weeks rest. He played every single snap against the steelers. Our lack of DE depth now is gonna haunt us. 

  • short week, brings longer list  https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2018/9/18/17876526/browns-injury-report-growing-as-tnf-quickly-approaches maybe J.McKinnon up from PS?  

  • The Browns seem much improved, but I will NOT predict an outcome & I REFUSE to provide the Jets (or anyone else) "bulletin board material".

    Mike

  • I don't see how anyone can be confident about us beating anyone.

  • I don't see how anyone can be confident about us beating anyone.

    @orion said:

    I don't see how anyone can be confident about us beating anyone.

    I'm confident and optimistic that the Browns will win every single week.   Its just a matter of how long that feeling lasts.   Some games the last couple seasons it didn't last much beyond the coin toss but so far this season it's lasted much longer. 

  • @bob806 said:

    I'm worried about this game, we've lost to the Jets 5 times in a row.

    They can't let Darnold come in here and win. It's time to start WINNING home games.

    Darnold is very mobile AND throws weirdly accurate on the move, in addition to picking up yards on the ground.  Oh, we're also going to be without Ogbah (this is my surprised face!!  Can't believe it!!) and we're probably going to be without Damarious Randall!  Wow, it keeps getting better!!  Randall has a heel injury, and is listed as questionable I think.  In other words, he's not likely to play, especially because we play in two days.  No Ogbah, no Randall, no chance.  Randall has been playing pretty awesome football.  He got beat (badly) by Ted Ginn, but Brees underthrew him.  Besides that, he's been great.  Not having him?  Will destroy us.  Maybe I'm wrong and he plays, but I doubt it.  

    Bottom line?  We're in deep crap.  I don't care which players the Jets have lost off their defense, they still play very aggressively, and they'll make life impossible for us.  Our offensive line is STRUGGLING with simple stunts and lineman misdirection.  This is a symptom of our line not playing much together, and their communication suffering as a result.  The Jets' defensive line will torment us.  No running game.  No time to throw.  3rd and long all day long, with Tyrod throwing a bunch of 2 yards passes in hopes our receiver breaks 7 tackles and picks up the first down. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Darnold is very mobile AND throws weirdly accurate on the move, in addition to picking up yards on the ground.  Oh, we're also going to be without Ogbah (this is my surprised face!!  Can't believe it!!) and we're probably going to be without Damarious Randall!  Wow, it keeps getting better!!  Randall has a heel injury, and is listed as questionable I think.  In other words, he's not likely to play, especially because we play in two days.  No Ogbah, no Randall, no chance.  Randall has been playing pretty awesome football.  He got beat (badly) by Ted Ginn, but Brees underthrew him.  Besides that, he's been great.  Not having him?  Will destroy us.  Maybe I'm wrong and he plays, but I doubt it.  

    Bottom line?  We're in deep crap.  I don't care which players the Jets have lost off their defense, they still play very aggressively, and they'll make life impossible for us.  Our offensive line is STRUGGLING with simple stunts and lineman misdirection.  This is a symptom of our line not playing much together, and their communication suffering as a result.  The Jets' defensive line will torment us.  No running game.  No time to throw.  3rd and long all day long, with Tyrod throwing a bunch of 2 yards passes in hopes our receiver breaks 7 tackles and picks up the first down. 

    you are fuking high are o-line showed a lot of improvement since week one against a team that has 3 first round picks on their d-line which shows me with some more time to gel (they had no time together in the pre season) are running game will improve as will pass protection this is the same problem the giants are going through

  • I don't see how anyone can be confident about us beating anyone.

    @orion said:

    I don't see how anyone can be confident about us beating anyone.

    you on drugs again vette ?

  • chris smith/genard avery>ogbah. Smith was a pleasant surprise to me this past sunday. 

    my issue with this upcoming game is the turnaround. I noticed a slight dropoff in myles's getoff against the saints, which was enough for the LT to absorb his rush...the power edge moves just werent there and that was on a weeks rest. He played every single snap against the steelers. Our lack of DE depth now is gonna haunt us. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    chris smith/genard avery>ogbah. Smith was a pleasant surprise to me this past sunday. 

    my issue with this upcoming game is the turnaround. I noticed a slight dropoff in myles's getoff against the saints, which was enough for the LT to absorb his rush...the power edge moves just werent there and that was on a weeks rest. He played every single snap against the steelers. Our lack of DE depth now is gonna haunt us. 

    I'm fine with the pick of Denzel Ward, but I'm still puzzled over people on here who didn't want Chubb because "we already have Ogbah" and it would be a wasted pick. That thinking is flawed. DLine is the one unit where you shuffle people in and out, and even if Ogbah was healthy, you'll find playing time for another quality DE. 

  • @clevfan4life said:

    chris smith/genard avery>ogbah. Smith was a pleasant surprise to me this past sunday. 

    my issue with this upcoming game is the turnaround. I noticed a slight dropoff in myles's getoff against the saints, which was enough for the LT to absorb his rush...the power edge moves just werent there and that was on a weeks rest. He played every single snap against the steelers. Our lack of DE depth now is gonna haunt us. 

    I'm fine with the pick of Denzel Ward, but I'm still puzzled over people on here who didn't want Chubb because "we already have Ogbah" and it would be a wasted pick. That thinking is flawed. DLine is the one unit where you shuffle people in and out, and even if Ogbah was healthy, you'll find playing time for another quality DE. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm fine with the pick of Denzel Ward, but I'm still puzzled over people on here who didn't want Chubb because "we already have Ogbah" and it would be a wasted pick. That thinking is flawed. DLine is the one unit where you shuffle people in and out, and even if Ogbah was healthy, you'll find playing time for another quality DE. 

    Ogbah so far is feeling like Courtney Brown pt 2 . To me... I like the kid... But.. he can't stay healthy.. I wish we wouldve kept Meder...

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    @orion said:

    I don't see how anyone can be confident about us beating anyone.

    you on drugs again vette ?

    @syd said:

    you on drugs again vette ?

    These days it's blood pressure medication.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I'm fine with the pick of Denzel Ward, but I'm still puzzled over people on here who didn't want Chubb because "we already have Ogbah" and it would be a wasted pick. That thinking is flawed. DLine is the one unit where you shuffle people in and out, and even if Ogbah was healthy, you'll find playing time for another quality DE. 

    Ogbah so far is feeling like Courtney Brown pt 2 . To me... I like the kid... But.. he can't stay healthy.. I wish we wouldve kept Meder...

    @nickers said:

    Ogbah so far is feeling like Courtney Brown pt 2 . To me... I like the kid... But.. he can't stay healthy.. I wish we wouldve kept Meder...

    I'm really hoping that the Browns have found their LT and can use their first rounder on a DLineman. 

    A DE opposite of Garrett would be nice, but I'd be thrilled with Houston DT Ed Oliver, too. His comparison is Aaron Donald, of the Rams. 

  • I don't see how anyone can be confident about us beating anyone.

    @orion said:

    I don't see how anyone can be confident about us beating anyone.

    Yet if you look at the trend in Yahoo Pick'em you'll see we are 2:1 favorites... and that's spotting NYJ 3 points.

  • @bobpound said:

    I have no idea what QB some of you are watching, when saying Darnold was the obvious choice for us at #1, it isn't the QB I am watching.

    The Week 1 Darnold was pretty damn good... that's the one I was watching  of the 3rd QB on my 2018 Big Board.

    Let's hope the Week 2 version shows Thursday nite.

    @tour2ma said:

    The Week 1 Darnold was pretty damn good... that's the one I was watching  of the 3rd QB on my 2018 Big Board.

    Let's hope the Week 2 version shows Thursday nite.

    If we play our week 1 D against his week 2 O, we have a very good chance.

    I'm still waiting for a week something O, but so far it can't kick it's way out of a wet paper bag.

  • @tour2ma said:

    The Week 1 Darnold was pretty damn good... that's the one I was watching  of the 3rd QB on my 2018 Big Board.

    Let's hope the Week 2 version shows Thursday nite.

    If we play our week 1 D against his week 2 O, we have a very good chance.

    I'm still waiting for a week something O, but so far it can't kick it's way out of a wet paper bag.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I'm still waiting for a week something O, but so far it can't kick it's way out of a wet paper bag.

    I see what you did there...

  • @tour2ma said:

    The Week 1 Darnold was pretty damn good... that's the one I was watching  of the 3rd QB on my 2018 Big Board.

    Let's hope the Week 2 version shows Thursday nite.

    If we play our week 1 D against his week 2 O, we have a very good chance.

    I'm still waiting for a week something O, but so far it can't kick it's way out of a wet paper bag.

    @texasag1969 said:

    If we play our week 1 D against his week 2 O, we have a very good chance.

    I'm still waiting for a week something O, but so far it can't kick it's way out of a wet paper bag.

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  • Oh, and there are two more reasons that we're in trouble.  We're playing against Terrell Pryor and Crowell.  I wasn't sad to see Crow leave us, but to this DAY I don't understand the Terrell Pryor debacle.  He wanted to stay here, and we wanted him to stay here....yet he's not here.  I really don't get it.  We cultivated him, taught him, and saw the potential...and now someone ELSE gets to use his services?  Uh...

    The story line is just too perfect.  "Sam Darnold shows Browns why they shouldn't have passed on him, and Crow and Pryor shine as Browns futility is stronger than ever."

    It just makes way too much sense.  You remember when Carson Wentz was a rookie?  You also remember we played them the first game?  What happened in that game?  That's right, Wentz beat us as a rookie, like every rookie does.  The immediate story afterwards was, "Did the Browns screw up by not drafting Wentz?!"   

    Uhhhhh....ya think?

  • Oh, and there are two more reasons that we're in trouble.  We're playing against Terrell Pryor and Crowell.  I wasn't sad to see Crow leave us, but to this DAY I don't understand the Terrell Pryor debacle.  He wanted to stay here, and we wanted him to stay here....yet he's not here.  I really don't get it.  We cultivated him, taught him, and saw the potential...and now someone ELSE gets to use his services?  Uh...

    The story line is just too perfect.  "Sam Darnold shows Browns why they shouldn't have passed on him, and Crow and Pryor shine as Browns futility is stronger than ever."

    It just makes way too much sense.  You remember when Carson Wentz was a rookie?  You also remember we played them the first game?  What happened in that game?  That's right, Wentz beat us as a rookie, like every rookie does.  The immediate story afterwards was, "Did the Browns screw up by not drafting Wentz?!"   

    Uhhhhh....ya think?

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Oh, and there are two more reasons that we're in trouble.  We're playing against Terrell Pryor and Crowell.  I wasn't sad to see Crow leave us, but to this DAY I don't understand the Terrell Pryor debacle.  He wanted to stay here, and we wanted him to stay here....yet he's not here.  I really don't get it.  We cultivated him, taught him, and saw the potential...and now someone ELSE gets to use his services?  Uh...

    The story line is just too perfect.  "Sam Darnold shows Browns why they shouldn't have passed on him, and Crow and Pryor shine as Browns futility is stronger than ever."

    It just makes way too much sense.  You remember when Carson Wentz was a rookie?  You also remember we played them the first game?  What happened in that game?  That's right, Wentz beat us as a rookie, like every rookie does.  The immediate story afterwards was, "Did the Browns screw up by not drafting Wentz?!"   

    Uhhhhh....ya think?

    Wow are you a miserable, negative person.   Why even bother watching since in your mind it's always going to end badly?   I don't get it. 

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Oh, and there are two more reasons that we're in trouble.  We're playing against Terrell Pryor and Crowell.  I wasn't sad to see Crow leave us, but to this DAY I don't understand the Terrell Pryor debacle.  He wanted to stay here, and we wanted him to stay here....yet he's not here.  I really don't get it.  We cultivated him, taught him, and saw the potential...and now someone ELSE gets to use his services?  Uh...

    The story line is just too perfect.  "Sam Darnold shows Browns why they shouldn't have passed on him, and Crow and Pryor shine as Browns futility is stronger than ever."

    It just makes way too much sense.  You remember when Carson Wentz was a rookie?  You also remember we played them the first game?  What happened in that game?  That's right, Wentz beat us as a rookie, like every rookie does.  The immediate story afterwards was, "Did the Browns screw up by not drafting Wentz?!"   

    Uhhhhh....ya think?

    Wow are you a miserable, negative person.   Why even bother watching since in your mind it's always going to end badly?   I don't get it. 

    @mark-o said:

    Wow are you a miserable, negative person.   Why even bother watching since in your mind it's always going to end badly?   I don't get it. 

    Before the season, I was the most optimistic person there was.  Now, I realize nothing has changed.  It's not a matter of BEING negative.  It's a matter of expecting results based on historical context.  Let me ask you a question.  If the same result basically happens 34 times in a row, who is the miserable person?  The person who expects the same thing, or the person who expects it to change?

  • Spin it however you want.  You're negative. 

  • @mark-o said:

    Wow are you a miserable, negative person.   Why even bother watching since in your mind it's always going to end badly?   I don't get it. 

    Before the season, I was the most optimistic person there was.  Now, I realize nothing has changed.  It's not a matter of BEING negative.  It's a matter of expecting results based on historical context.  Let me ask you a question.  If the same result basically happens 34 times in a row, who is the miserable person?  The person who expects the same thing, or the person who expects it to change?

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Before the season, I was the most optimistic person there was.  Now, I realize nothing has changed.  It's not a matter of BEING negative.  It's a matter of expecting results based on historical context.  Let me ask you a question.  If the same result basically happens 34 times in a row, who is the miserable person?  The person who expects the same thing, or the person who expects it to change?

    This team is better than last years team. I’m not sure yet how much better, but they’re definitely better. And to answer your question... the person that expects the same thing... without hope of something different