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  • @dutch-oven said:

    I do not in any instance blame Hue for today's loss. 

    I don't think he's doing a good job, I think he's gone at the end of the season, but today was on the player's. 

    They were in position to win, and THEY blew it. 

    Agree except for one point...

    Knowing your kicker is struggling with 8 seconds left I run one more play at the end of regulation to try to pick up a few more yards. Probably tell Haley to call a roll out and TT to throw an out quickly either to a receiver or OB.

    Hue was the one who made the call to kick it when we did.

    @mark-o said:

    Really only one player blew it.  

    No... this is never the case. Every player walked off that field thinking of plays they did not make that could have made a difference in the end result. The more skilled/specialized the position they play the greater the number.

    Zane's plays were simply the most obvious ones.

    @tour2ma said:

    Agree except for one point...

    Knowing your kicker is struggling with 8 seconds left I run one more play at the end of regulation to try to pick up a few more yards. Probably tell Haley to call a roll out and TT to throw an out quickly either to a receiver or OB.

    Hue was the one who made the call to kick it when we did.

    The guy missed two extra points. 

    This team is one decent kicker away from being 2-0, and Browns fans are just dying to fire Hue.

    Could you imagine what would happen to Hue if they run one more play and there's a bad snap, a holding call, a complete pass in-bounds, or any other thing that could happen when you have no timeouts and the Browns never even get to attempt a field goal?

    Another five yards wouldn't had mattered. There was no way in hell that kid was making that kick regardless if it was 52 yards or 42 yards. He had the yips. He was in full-blown Tin Cup mode. 

  • Agreed 100%. Hue made the only call to be made under the circumstances.

    Mike

  • @tour2ma said:

    Agree except for one point...

    Knowing your kicker is struggling with 8 seconds left I run one more play at the end of regulation to try to pick up a few more yards. Probably tell Haley to call a roll out and TT to throw an out quickly either to a receiver or OB.

    Hue was the one who made the call to kick it when we did.

    The guy missed two extra points. 

    This team is one decent kicker away from being 2-0, and Browns fans are just dying to fire Hue.

    Could you imagine what would happen to Hue if they run one more play and there's a bad snap, a holding call, a complete pass in-bounds, or any other thing that could happen when you have no timeouts and the Browns never even get to attempt a field goal?

    Another five yards wouldn't had mattered. There was no way in hell that kid was making that kick regardless if it was 52 yards or 42 yards. He had the yips. He was in full-blown Tin Cup mode. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Could you imagine what would happen to Hue if they run one more play and there's a bad snap, a holding call, a complete pass in-bounds, or any other thing that could happen when you have no timeouts and the Browns never even get to attempt a field goal?

    So your reply is to coach "scared"? That thinking can poison a team.

    See anything close to a bad snap all game long?

    Maybe the five yards would have made no difference... maybe it would have. We'll never know, will we?

  • @hoorta said:

    Scoreboard: Play maker Barf-ey now 0-2.  He's making a huge difference in the win column all righty.    For the record Trollie, the almighty Barf-ey currently has one more rushing yard, and one less touchdown than Carlos Hyde.  Maybe he "just needs more time" like Paxton Lynch. 😁 

    No, I don't miss Barf-ey at all, Mayfield and Ward were the correct draft picks. In fact, my not so bold prediction- echoed by football analysts who have more football smarts in their big toe than you have in your entire body- say THE GIANTS ARE GOING TO REGRET PASSING ON SAM DARNOLD. 

    Barkley has a 2.0 ypc average, if you take out the one big play he made. 

    But it may not be all his fault.   The Giants have a crap OL, that can't run block nor protect Eli.

    @the-gipper said:

    Barkley has a 2.0 ypc average, if you take out the one big play he made. 

    But it may not be all his fault.   The Giants have a crap OL, that can't run block nor protect Eli.

    Why would you take out the big play?

    He's had over 100 yards from scrimmage in both games he has played in the NFL and has a 4.6 ypc.

    Z

  • @the-gipper said:

    Barkley has a 2.0 ypc average, if you take out the one big play he made. 

    But it may not be all his fault.   The Giants have a crap OL, that can't run block nor protect Eli.

    Why would you take out the big play?

    He's had over 100 yards from scrimmage in both games he has played in the NFL and has a 4.6 ypc.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    Why would you take out the big play?

    He's had over 100 yards from scrimmage in both games he has played in the NFL and has a 4.6 ypc.

    Z

    But it is only like 2.0 without the big plays.   Sure, big plays count.  But he has a long way to go to prove anything.

  • Zombo said:

    Why would you take out the big play?

    He's had over 100 yards from scrimmage in both games he has played in the NFL and has a 4.6 ypc.

    Z

    But it is only like 2.0 without the big plays.   Sure, big plays count.  But he has a long way to go to prove anything.

    @the-gipper said:

    But it is only like 2.0 without the big plays.   Sure, big plays count.  But he has a long way to go to prove anything.

    If they count, why did you just subtract them again?

    He is third among NFL running backs in total yards.

    Zombo

  • @the-gipper said:

    But it is only like 2.0 without the big plays.   Sure, big plays count.  But he has a long way to go to prove anything.

    If they count, why did you just subtract them again?

    He is third among NFL running backs in total yards.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    If they count, why did you just subtract them again?

    He is third among NFL running backs in total yards.

    Zombo

    He plays for a different team.   I am not going to kiss his arse.   You can if you want.

  • Zombo said:

    If they count, why did you just subtract them again?

    He is third among NFL running backs in total yards.

    Zombo

    He plays for a different team.   I am not going to kiss his arse.   You can if you want.

    @the-gipper said:

    He plays for a different team.   I am not going to kiss his arse.   You can if you want.

    Not even rooting for him. Fuck the Giants. Just don't get your analysis.

    You wanna take Barry Sanders big gains away and see what his stats look like too?

    Barkley's projected numbers as of now are 1,072 yards rushing, 816 yards receiving, 8 TDs and 4.6 ypc.

    Zombo

  • @sd_tom said:

    I'll take baker and ward over saquon any day of the week. 

    Drafting a RB that high is madness. 

    @londonbrown said:

    Drafting a RB that high is madness. 

    I never did understand that pick unless they thought Darnold Allen and Rosen could not be franchise qb's 

  • @the-gipper said:

    He plays for a different team.   I am not going to kiss his arse.   You can if you want.

    Not even rooting for him. Fuck the Giants. Just don't get your analysis.

    You wanna take Barry Sanders big gains away and see what his stats look like too?

    Barkley's projected numbers as of now are 1,072 yards rushing, 816 yards receiving, 8 TDs and 4.6 ypc.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Just don't get your analysis.

    Easy, Z...

    If the stats don't support your analysis... change the stats.

    Some might call these "alternative stats"... ?

  • Zombo said:

    Just don't get your analysis.

    Easy, Z...

    If the stats don't support your analysis... change the stats.

    Some might call these "alternative stats"... ?

    @tour2ma said:

    Easy, Z...

    If the stats don't support your analysis... change the stats.

    Some might call these "alternative stats"... ?

    Don't have to do that.  Just have to say:    not sold yet.