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    He had one tackle right around the line of scrimmage on a running play and that was the only time I saw him do ANYTHING.  When I would key on him at the snap in obvious passing downs, it seemed like he was talking an inside slant rush toward the QB rather than trying to go outside around the left tackle, which seemed to be playing into the Saints hands, but then I only keyed in on him at the snap a few times.  Anyone  have any insight on why he was such a non-factor against the Saints?

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      He had one tackle right around the line of scrimmage on a running play and that was the only time I saw him do ANYTHING.  When I would key on him at the snap in obvious passing downs, it seemed like he was talking an inside slant rush toward the QB rather than trying to go outside around the left tackle, which seemed to be playing into the Saints hands, but then I only keyed in on him at the snap a few times.  Anyone  have any insight on why he was such a non-factor against the Saints?

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      @onkyoreceiver said:

      He had one tackle right around the line of scrimmage on a running play and that was the only time I saw him do ANYTHING.  When I would key on him at the snap in obvious passing downs, it seemed like he was talking an inside slant rush toward the QB rather than trying to go outside around the left tackle, which seemed to be playing into the Saints hands, but then I only keyed in on him at the snap a few times.  Anyone  have any insight on why he was such a non-factor against the Saints?

      I'll watch the replay of the D on youtube since I did not have access to it live. My prediction was that they would get smart and double/triple team him every play and force the rest our D to step up. I will take a look and see if they did. I assume since we stayed in the game that the rest of the D played better.

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        @onkyoreceiver said:

        He had one tackle right around the line of scrimmage on a running play and that was the only time I saw him do ANYTHING.  When I would key on him at the snap in obvious passing downs, it seemed like he was talking an inside slant rush toward the QB rather than trying to go outside around the left tackle, which seemed to be playing into the Saints hands, but then I only keyed in on him at the snap a few times.  Anyone  have any insight on why he was such a non-factor against the Saints?

        I'll watch the replay of the D on youtube since I did not have access to it live. My prediction was that they would get smart and double/triple team him every play and force the rest our D to step up. I will take a look and see if they did. I assume since we stayed in the game that the rest of the D played better.

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        @texasag1969 said:

        I'll watch the replay of the D on youtube since I did not have access to it live. My prediction was that they would get smart and double/triple team him every play and force the rest our D to step up. I will take a look and see if they did. I assume since we stayed in the game that the rest of the D played better.

        It may be why Ogunjobi had 3 sacks.   If the are going to  double/triple team   5-0, then hopefully the other DL will step up like that with 3 sacks.

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          @texasag1969 said:

          I'll watch the replay of the D on youtube since I did not have access to it live. My prediction was that they would get smart and double/triple team him every play and force the rest our D to step up. I will take a look and see if they did. I assume since we stayed in the game that the rest of the D played better.

          It may be why Ogunjobi had 3 sacks.   If the are going to  double/triple team   5-0, then hopefully the other DL will step up like that with 3 sacks.

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          @the-gipper said:

          It may be why Ogunjobi had 3 sacks.   If the are going to  double/triple team   5-0, then hopefully the other DL will step up like that with 3 sacks.

          And I'm PO'd at my brother where I'm staying in Colorado. He does not have NFL Network AND the damn fool is having over relatives for dinner tonight so I can't even go to downtown Estes Park to watch it in a sports bar.

          Life is hard.  Please rub your thumb and forefinger together for me in a tiny violin gesture. LOL!?

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            Double teamed the entire game.  Like...every play.  And the Saints appeared to run opposite of him every play.  Garrett would've had a sack if Ogunjobi didn't get it.  Garrett was actually touching Brees as Larry dragged him down.  Don't worry about Myles, he was there.  The Saints literally schemed their entire offense around him.  

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              Double teamed the entire game.  Like...every play.  And the Saints appeared to run opposite of him every play.  Garrett would've had a sack if Ogunjobi didn't get it.  Garrett was actually touching Brees as Larry dragged him down.  Don't worry about Myles, he was there.  The Saints literally schemed their entire offense around him.  

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              @jiggins7919 said:

              Double teamed the entire game.  Like...every play.  

              u sure about that? cause i remember looking fir that and saying to myself "wow that LT is not doing too bad all alone"

              what i will say is that they did t run that way much. Myles held his edge exceptionally well, the dude has really worked on his edge defense. But his rush seemed flat to me. I wrote about this sunday.....i thought the minutes from the pgh game caught him. He wasnt using his power to setup the edge rush. When a tackle realuzes u dont have ur full arsenal, they'll jump out on the edge knowing thats thebone thing myles will always have. The power just wasnt there on sunday. 

              we have no DE rotation. Hopefully odegbo and zettel can take more quality snaps tonight

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                @jiggins7919 said:

                Double teamed the entire game.  Like...every play.  

                u sure about that? cause i remember looking fir that and saying to myself "wow that LT is not doing too bad all alone"

                what i will say is that they did t run that way much. Myles held his edge exceptionally well, the dude has really worked on his edge defense. But his rush seemed flat to me. I wrote about this sunday.....i thought the minutes from the pgh game caught him. He wasnt using his power to setup the edge rush. When a tackle realuzes u dont have ur full arsenal, they'll jump out on the edge knowing thats thebone thing myles will always have. The power just wasnt there on sunday. 

                we have no DE rotation. Hopefully odegbo and zettel can take more quality snaps tonight

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                jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                @clevfan4life said:

                u sure about that? cause i remember looking fir that and saying to myself "wow that LT is not doing too bad all alone"

                what i will say is that they did t run that way much. Myles held his edge exceptionally well, the dude has really worked on his edge defense. But his rush seemed flat to me. I wrote about this sunday.....i thought the minutes from the pgh game caught him. He wasnt using his power to setup the edge rush. When a tackle realuzes u dont have ur full arsenal, they'll jump out on the edge knowing thats thebone thing myles will always have. The power just wasnt there on sunday. 

                we have no DE rotation. Hopefully odegbo and zettel can take more quality snaps tonight

                Ok, so maybe it wasn't EVERY play, but Garrett got double teamed a BUNCH, and when he wasn't, Brees got the ball out QUICKLY, so there really wasn't much Garrett could do.  I'll tell you this though, I don't remember the Saints running over towards Garrett's direction.  The Saints' LT is pretty good I think, but Garrett did a fine job when I was watching.  

                That being said, Garrett has a MUCH more favorable match up this week.  Darnold will almost certainly hold the ball longer, and that will increase the chances of a big play.  

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                  @clevfan4life said:

                  u sure about that? cause i remember looking fir that and saying to myself "wow that LT is not doing too bad all alone"

                  what i will say is that they did t run that way much. Myles held his edge exceptionally well, the dude has really worked on his edge defense. But his rush seemed flat to me. I wrote about this sunday.....i thought the minutes from the pgh game caught him. He wasnt using his power to setup the edge rush. When a tackle realuzes u dont have ur full arsenal, they'll jump out on the edge knowing thats thebone thing myles will always have. The power just wasnt there on sunday. 

                  we have no DE rotation. Hopefully odegbo and zettel can take more quality snaps tonight

                  Ok, so maybe it wasn't EVERY play, but Garrett got double teamed a BUNCH, and when he wasn't, Brees got the ball out QUICKLY, so there really wasn't much Garrett could do.  I'll tell you this though, I don't remember the Saints running over towards Garrett's direction.  The Saints' LT is pretty good I think, but Garrett did a fine job when I was watching.  

                  That being said, Garrett has a MUCH more favorable match up this week.  Darnold will almost certainly hold the ball longer, and that will increase the chances of a big play.  

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                  @jiggins7919 said:

                  Ok, so maybe it wasn't EVERY play, but Garrett got double teamed a BUNCH, and when he wasn't, Brees got the ball out QUICKLY, so there really wasn't much Garrett could do.  I'll tell you this though, I don't remember the Saints running over towards Garrett's direction.  The Saints' LT is pretty good I think, but Garrett did a fine job when I was watching.  

                  That being said, Garrett has a MUCH more favorable match up this week.  Darnold will almost certainly hold the ball longer, and that will increase the chances of a big play.  

                  we'll see. I wish ogbah wouldn't be hurt cause that means Smith could spell Garrett. Right now smith, who I think might be better than Ogbah, is the LDE. If ogbah was back starting Smith could sub for Garret over on the right and Avery could come in for Ogbah on passing downs. Im worried about this 4 day turn around. I wish we had a bye the following sunday so these guys got a solid 2 weeks off. 

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                    @jiggins7919 said:

                    Ok, so maybe it wasn't EVERY play, but Garrett got double teamed a BUNCH, and when he wasn't, Brees got the ball out QUICKLY, so there really wasn't much Garrett could do.  I'll tell you this though, I don't remember the Saints running over towards Garrett's direction.  The Saints' LT is pretty good I think, but Garrett did a fine job when I was watching.  

                    That being said, Garrett has a MUCH more favorable match up this week.  Darnold will almost certainly hold the ball longer, and that will increase the chances of a big play.  

                    we'll see. I wish ogbah wouldn't be hurt cause that means Smith could spell Garrett. Right now smith, who I think might be better than Ogbah, is the LDE. If ogbah was back starting Smith could sub for Garret over on the right and Avery could come in for Ogbah on passing downs. Im worried about this 4 day turn around. I wish we had a bye the following sunday so these guys got a solid 2 weeks off. 

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                    @clevfan4life said:

                    we'll see. I wish ogbah wouldn't be hurt cause that means Smith could spell Garrett. Right now smith, who I think might be better than Ogbah, is the LDE. If ogbah was back starting Smith could sub for Garret over on the right and Avery could come in for Ogbah on passing downs. Im worried about this 4 day turn around. I wish we had a bye the following sunday so these guys got a solid 2 weeks off. 

                    I think the Jets should be worried about so short a time to prep for our D. The Saints had a full week and  the D still got to them most of the time. And Brees is the best there is.

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                      @clevfan4life said:

                      we'll see. I wish ogbah wouldn't be hurt cause that means Smith could spell Garrett. Right now smith, who I think might be better than Ogbah, is the LDE. If ogbah was back starting Smith could sub for Garret over on the right and Avery could come in for Ogbah on passing downs. Im worried about this 4 day turn around. I wish we had a bye the following sunday so these guys got a solid 2 weeks off. 

                      I think the Jets should be worried about so short a time to prep for our D. The Saints had a full week and  the D still got to them most of the time. And Brees is the best there is.

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                      @texasag1969 said:

                      I think the Jets should be worried about so short a time to prep for our D. The Saints had a full week and  the D still got to them most of the time. And Brees is the best there is.

                      This will be the Jets 3rd game in 11 days. 

                      Hopefully they'll be tired. 

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                        @texasag1969 said:

                        I think the Jets should be worried about so short a time to prep for our D. The Saints had a full week and  the D still got to them most of the time. And Brees is the best there is.

                        This will be the Jets 3rd game in 11 days. 

                        Hopefully they'll be tired. 

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                        This will be the Jets 3rd game in 11 days. 

                        Hopefully they'll be tired. 

                        That's a bad scheduling, may I say.

                        MNF, Sunday and TNF? What were they thinking?

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                          @dutch-oven said:

                          This will be the Jets 3rd game in 11 days. 

                          Hopefully they'll be tired. 

                          That's a bad scheduling, may I say.

                          MNF, Sunday and TNF? What were they thinking?

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                          @nero said:

                          That's a bad scheduling, may I say.

                          MNF, Sunday and TNF? What were they thinking?

                          Shmuck YO' JETS, CHARLIE MURPHY! 

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                            @nero said:

                            That's a bad scheduling, may I say.

                            MNF, Sunday and TNF? What were they thinking?

                            Shmuck YO' JETS, CHARLIE MURPHY! 

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                            @dutch-oven said:

                            Shmuck YO' JETS, CHARLIE MURPHY! 

                            In moments like this I remember that there's an ocean and a language between us... What was that?

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                              Shmuck YO' JETS, CHARLIE MURPHY! 

                              In moments like this I remember that there's an ocean and a language between us... What was that?

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                              In moments like this I remember that there's an ocean and a language between us... What was that?

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                                @jiggins7919 said:

                                Double teamed the entire game.  Like...every play.  

                                u sure about that? cause i remember looking fir that and saying to myself "wow that LT is not doing too bad all alone"

                                what i will say is that they did t run that way much. Myles held his edge exceptionally well, the dude has really worked on his edge defense. But his rush seemed flat to me. I wrote about this sunday.....i thought the minutes from the pgh game caught him. He wasnt using his power to setup the edge rush. When a tackle realuzes u dont have ur full arsenal, they'll jump out on the edge knowing thats thebone thing myles will always have. The power just wasnt there on sunday. 

                                we have no DE rotation. Hopefully odegbo and zettel can take more quality snaps tonight

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                                @clevfan4life said:

                                u sure about that? cause i remember looking fir that and saying to myself "wow that LT is not doing too bad all alone"

                                what i will say is that they did t run that way much. Myles held his edge exceptionally well, the dude has really worked on his edge defense. But his rush seemed flat to me. I wrote about this sunday.....i thought the minutes from the pgh game caught him. He wasnt using his power to setup the edge rush. When a tackle realuzes u dont have ur full arsenal, they'll jump out on the edge knowing thats thebone thing myles will always have. The power just wasnt there on sunday. 

                                we have no DE rotation. Hopefully odegbo and zettel can take more quality snaps tonight

                                I think he met his match.  It's no big deal, it'll happen some games.  But overall, he will dominate most of his counterparts.  

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                                  In moments like this I remember that there's an ocean and a language between us... What was that?

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                                  @dutch-oven said:

                                  Sorry. Still don't get it. 

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    It may be why Ogunjobi had 3 sacks.   If the are going to  double/triple team   5-0, then hopefully the other DL will step up like that with 3 sacks.

                                    And I'm PO'd at my brother where I'm staying in Colorado. He does not have NFL Network AND the damn fool is having over relatives for dinner tonight so I can't even go to downtown Estes Park to watch it in a sports bar.

                                    Life is hard.  Please rub your thumb and forefinger together for me in a tiny violin gesture. LOL!?

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                                    @texasag1969 said:

                                    And I'm PO'd at my brother where I'm staying in Colorado. He does not have NFL Network AND the damn fool is having over relatives for dinner tonight so I can't even go to downtown Estes Park to watch it in a sports bar.

                                    Life is hard.  Please rub your thumb and forefinger together for me in a tiny violin gesture. LOL!?

                                    Use the nflstreams subreddit for hd feeds on phone

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                                      And I'm PO'd at my brother where I'm staying in Colorado. He does not have NFL Network AND the damn fool is having over relatives for dinner tonight so I can't even go to downtown Estes Park to watch it in a sports bar.

                                      Life is hard.  Please rub your thumb and forefinger together for me in a tiny violin gesture. LOL!?

                                      Use the nflstreams subreddit for hd feeds on phone

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                                      Use the nflstreams subreddit for hd feeds on phone

                                      As Nero might say, there is a generation gap and a half a continent between us. What did you say? ?

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                                        @kvoethe said:

                                        Use the nflstreams subreddit for hd feeds on phone

                                        As Nero might say, there is a generation gap and a half a continent between us. What did you say? ?

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                                        @texasag1969 said:

                                        As Nero might say, there is a generation gap and a half a continent between us. What did you say? ?

                                        Search 'NFL Streams reddit' in Google. Click on Browns' thread and try with the streams offered at the top of the page. I recommend using at least one adblocker extension and patience. 

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                                          @texasag1969 said:

                                          As Nero might say, there is a generation gap and a half a continent between us. What did you say? ?

                                          Search 'NFL Streams reddit' in Google. Click on Browns' thread and try with the streams offered at the top of the page. I recommend using at least one adblocker extension and patience. 

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                                          @nero said:

                                          Search 'NFL Streams reddit' in Google. Click on Browns' thread and try with the streams offered at the top of the page. I recommend using at least one adblocker extension and patience. 

                                          Any particular Browns  thread Nero

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