Please FIRE HUE!
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Hypocrite.
No, that would be YOU. You now have everything to cheer about and you want to gripe.
I am consistent. I have said all along...............
1) I am here mostly because of my past connection with the real/original Browns, and the many friends I have here.
2) I have no emotional connection to the team, and do not consider it in any way, shape or form to be the real Cleveland Browns. No amount of winning will ever change that. I don't care to engage in mental masturbation with you. The records show the Browns were moved and renamed. Then changed back to what it is now.
3) I publicly ate crow and admitted right here. I was wrong about Dorsey. The guy NAILED IT.
Here is the problem you have. You are so driven by hate and your calling people FRAKS, you really have no social life without it. You have a narrative that you want to hold true, and god-damnit you are not going to let facts get in the way of your pretend, Walter-Mitty world. YOu and guys like MJP/Aka Dutch Oven were PRAYING FOR........... DYING FOR...............ACHING FOR THE DAY when the Browns would start winning and Ghoolie would come running back saying.......... " THE BROWNS ARE MY TEAM.....I KNEW IT ALL ALONG................ I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO GET A REACTION.................I ALWAYS BELIEVED IN THIS FO..............
But that's not happening for you, is it? How frustrated you must be. GHOOLIE IS THE MODEL OF CONSISTENCY........................... There were things I was dead butt wrong about and i have no problem eating crow.........I was also right about a lot, (and as I described, OL being a dime a dozen, coordinators being coffee fetchers...as Baker clearly showed)
- I did not believe in Dorsey
- I thought Mayfield was a mistake, and also Ward
- I wanted Barkley
Admitting to being wrong is actually the opposite of being a hypocrite.
So for instance, you and other predicted that my tune would change when the Browns turned a corner. BUT BUT BUT............that hasn't happened, has it McFly? Are you and those who predicted this man enough to admit YOU were wrong?
Dutch Oven and others went on and on and on about how I have multiple screen names. Some of you want your narrative to be true SOOOOOOOOOO BADLY that you INSISTED, only I could agree with me. But, as the poll showed, many do agree with me, AND even in his height of anger with me.....Hoorta told you clearly....."Ghoolie has no other screen names. I never did. NEVER.................. only in a one-post jest that was obvious to anyone,,, except people like you, Dutch, MJP and others, who just have to have that narrative.............
So look dude, you can choke on your FRAK and Hypocrisy talk for all I care. You're not going to get "Ghoolie" out of me. Baker revived the team, he put Ghoolie back in the box.
I have interest in Browns dealings, and I hope they delight the living daylights out of the fans. But, and I know your pea brain just can't comprehend this.....even if they go 14 -1 - 1, and then 3 - 0 in the playoffs. I am not on the bandwagon. This will never, ever be connected, for me, to the Browns that I enjoyed as a boy, with my parents. Does the team have a connection to Cleveland? Absolutely. But I am not that nuts about the city of Cleveland. hat's how it is with me................... TOTAL honesty, and consistency.
No, that would be YOU. You now have everything to cheer about and you want to gripe.
I am consistent. I have said all along...............
1) I am here mostly because of my past connection with the real/original Browns, and the many friends I have here.
2) I have no emotional connection to the team, and do not consider it in any way, shape or form to be the real Cleveland Browns. No amount of winning will ever change that. I don't care to engage in mental masturbation with you. The records show the Browns were moved and renamed. Then changed back to what it is now.
3) I publicly ate crow and admitted right here. I was wrong about Dorsey. The guy NAILED IT.
Here is the problem you have. You are so driven by hate and your calling people FRAKS, you really have no social life without it. You have a narrative that you want to hold true, and god-damnit you are not going to let facts get in the way of your pretend, Walter-Mitty world. YOu and guys like MJP/Aka Dutch Oven were PRAYING FOR........... DYING FOR...............ACHING FOR THE DAY when the Browns would start winning and Ghoolie would come running back saying.......... " THE BROWNS ARE MY TEAM.....I KNEW IT ALL ALONG................ I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO GET A REACTION.................I ALWAYS BELIEVED IN THIS FO..............
But that's not happening for you, is it? How frustrated you must be. GHOOLIE IS THE MODEL OF CONSISTENCY........................... There were things I was dead butt wrong about and i have no problem eating crow.........I was also right about a lot, (and as I described, OL being a dime a dozen, coordinators being coffee fetchers...as Baker clearly showed)
- I did not believe in Dorsey
- I thought Mayfield was a mistake, and also Ward
- I wanted Barkley
Admitting to being wrong is actually the opposite of being a hypocrite.
So for instance, you and other predicted that my tune would change when the Browns turned a corner. BUT BUT BUT............that hasn't happened, has it McFly? Are you and those who predicted this man enough to admit YOU were wrong?
Dutch Oven and others went on and on and on about how I have multiple screen names. Some of you want your narrative to be true SOOOOOOOOOO BADLY that you INSISTED, only I could agree with me. But, as the poll showed, many do agree with me, AND even in his height of anger with me.....Hoorta told you clearly....."Ghoolie has no other screen names. I never did. NEVER.................. only in a one-post jest that was obvious to anyone,,, except people like you, Dutch, MJP and others, who just have to have that narrative.............
So look dude, you can choke on your FRAK and Hypocrisy talk for all I care. You're not going to get "Ghoolie" out of me. Baker revived the team, he put Ghoolie back in the box.
I have interest in Browns dealings, and I hope they delight the living daylights out of the fans. But, and I know your pea brain just can't comprehend this.....even if they go 14 -1 - 1, and then 3 - 0 in the playoffs. I am not on the bandwagon. This will never, ever be connected, for me, to the Browns that I enjoyed as a boy, with my parents. Does the team have a connection to Cleveland? Absolutely. But I am not that nuts about the city of Cleveland. hat's how it is with me................... TOTAL honesty, and consistency.
Complete hypocrite you just demonstrated it in multitude right here right now. Beyond that you’re completely wrong and ignorantly stubborn on your facts. And also nobody cares about you or who you root for what you think or who you suck the finger of
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Past two years. Plus overall record.
The past is the past. You are watching a team that should could easily be 3-0 now. A team that took it to two super bowl contenders. A team that got its first win, has an elite defense and likely headed to a higher powered offense. That is and will be coached by Hue. You can either enjoy the ride or stay miserable. Turn the page.
The past is the past. You are watching a team that should could easily be 3-0 now. A team that took it to two super bowl contenders. A team that got its first win, has an elite defense and likely headed to a higher powered offense. That is and will be coached by Hue. You can either enjoy the ride or stay miserable. Turn the page.
Hues resume sucks. That's a fact. I like the direction of the team with Dorsey. He's a real football kind of guy. Miserable? Nope. Pragmatic? Yes.
People said hue is a QB whisperer and is our answer. Hahahahaha. RG3, Kess, Trust me..... Never trust a man that starts a sentence with "trust me"
Hue is a figurehead and Dee's BBC. Nothing more.
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That money the board pays me to screw with you is money well spent.
Whatever they are paying you... it isn't enough.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
The past is the past. You are watching a team that should could easily be 3-0 now. A team that took it to two super bowl contenders. A team that got its first win, has an elite defense and likely headed to a higher powered offense. That is and will be coached by Hue. You can either enjoy the ride or stay miserable. Turn the page.
Hues resume sucks. That's a fact. I like the direction of the team with Dorsey. He's a real football kind of guy. Miserable? Nope. Pragmatic? Yes.
People said hue is a QB whisperer and is our answer. Hahahahaha. RG3, Kess, Trust me..... Never trust a man that starts a sentence with "trust me"
Hue is a figurehead and Dee's BBC. Nothing more.
Hues resume sucks. That's a fact. I like the direction of the team with Dorsey. He's a real football kind of guy. Miserable? Nope. Pragmatic? Yes.
People said hue is a QB whisperer and is our answer. Hahahahaha. RG3, Kess, Trust me..... Never trust a man that starts a sentence with "trust me"
Hue is a figurehead and Dee's BBC. Nothing more.
BBC is a DB ?
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What is BBC?
What is BBC?
British Broadcast Company.. or for you street hoze... Big Bla.. Co....
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Sorry to burst your bubble but Hue isnt getting fired any time soon.
Its like the last two years never happened now that mayfield is here and we have a top 5 defense.
He wasnt going to get fired before he even played mayfield...that was a certainty.
Hope you like Hue...he isnt going anyplace.
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Not that this was a tough feat or anything but the volume of penalties since week 1 has been reduced significantly. Horrible coaching?
That said, most of them seem to be on our STs return unit by repeat offenders. GOTTA clean that stuff up at least as well as high school teams can right? It shouldn't be as impossible as it's been over the last 5 years or so.
Having said that, I liked what I saw from punt coverage teams pinning the Jets deep as often as they did. Bringing Josh Cribbs here to help out with the STs is a great idea because he was a REALLY good gunner on punt/kick coverage teams when we used him in that role. The punt we had blocked wasn't coaching - it was a really lame effort from Chubb that surprised me. I've seen the replay twice to confirm it. He also hasn't been blocking or picking up people in pass pro either which might explain how often he's trusted to play on offense. This knucklehead praised him in the preseason for being good at it - I'm starting to think it was #34 instead of #24 I saw in that clip of training camp. If you're on a 2nd round salary and most of your role is on special teams - you might want to look back at what another former GA Bulldog (Terrell Davis) once did on STs before he started. It was also nice to see much better performance from the FG kicker aside from the 1 KO that went out of bounds.
Hue hired an OC and QB Coach to upgrade those positions which has also upgraded our HC position IMO. I'm not nearly as warm and fuzzy with the ST Coordinator but I like that we brought Cribbs in to assist him.
Having only 1 loss after 3 games isn't grounds to fire a HC here. If people aren't seeing a much improved competitive value the first 3 weeks it's because they simply don't want to.
Not that this was a tough feat or anything but the volume of penalties since week 1 has been reduced significantly. Horrible coaching?
That said, most of them seem to be on our STs return unit by repeat offenders. GOTTA clean that stuff up at least as well as high school teams can right? It shouldn't be as impossible as it's been over the last 5 years or so.
Having said that, I liked what I saw from punt coverage teams pinning the Jets deep as often as they did. Bringing Josh Cribbs here to help out with the STs is a great idea because he was a REALLY good gunner on punt/kick coverage teams when we used him in that role. The punt we had blocked wasn't coaching - it was a really lame effort from Chubb that surprised me. I've seen the replay twice to confirm it. He also hasn't been blocking or picking up people in pass pro either which might explain how often he's trusted to play on offense. This knucklehead praised him in the preseason for being good at it - I'm starting to think it was #34 instead of #24 I saw in that clip of training camp. If you're on a 2nd round salary and most of your role is on special teams - you might want to look back at what another former GA Bulldog (Terrell Davis) once did on STs before he started. It was also nice to see much better performance from the FG kicker aside from the 1 KO that went out of bounds.
Hue hired an OC and QB Coach to upgrade those positions which has also upgraded our HC position IMO. I'm not nearly as warm and fuzzy with the ST Coordinator but I like that we brought Cribbs in to assist him.
Having only 1 loss after 3 games isn't grounds to fire a HC here. If people aren't seeing a much improved competitive value the first 3 weeks it's because they simply don't want to.
Tom, Hue is not going to get fired. Baker gives everyone a chance to shine. i think we learned that Holmgren was a dildo. WIthout Favre, he would have been nothing. Dorsey, and give some props to Sashi really put some talent on this team. I gave you a lot of schmidlap about Williams, but if we think his D has been impressive? I have to think that now, with a 31 point weekly offense, a rested D, and the ability to really take some chances going after the QB, this D turns up the heat like wow! I think this team wins 10 games.
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Not that this was a tough feat or anything but the volume of penalties since week 1 has been reduced significantly. Horrible coaching?
That said, most of them seem to be on our STs return unit by repeat offenders. GOTTA clean that stuff up at least as well as high school teams can right? It shouldn't be as impossible as it's been over the last 5 years or so.
Having said that, I liked what I saw from punt coverage teams pinning the Jets deep as often as they did. Bringing Josh Cribbs here to help out with the STs is a great idea because he was a REALLY good gunner on punt/kick coverage teams when we used him in that role. The punt we had blocked wasn't coaching - it was a really lame effort from Chubb that surprised me. I've seen the replay twice to confirm it. He also hasn't been blocking or picking up people in pass pro either which might explain how often he's trusted to play on offense. This knucklehead praised him in the preseason for being good at it - I'm starting to think it was #34 instead of #24 I saw in that clip of training camp. If you're on a 2nd round salary and most of your role is on special teams - you might want to look back at what another former GA Bulldog (Terrell Davis) once did on STs before he started. It was also nice to see much better performance from the FG kicker aside from the 1 KO that went out of bounds.
Hue hired an OC and QB Coach to upgrade those positions which has also upgraded our HC position IMO. I'm not nearly as warm and fuzzy with the ST Coordinator but I like that we brought Cribbs in to assist him.
Having only 1 loss after 3 games isn't grounds to fire a HC here. If people aren't seeing a much improved competitive value the first 3 weeks it's because they simply don't want to.
Tom, Hue is not going to get fired. Baker gives everyone a chance to shine. i think we learned that Holmgren was a dildo. WIthout Favre, he would have been nothing. Dorsey, and give some props to Sashi really put some talent on this team. I gave you a lot of schmidlap about Williams, but if we think his D has been impressive? I have to think that now, with a 31 point weekly offense, a rested D, and the ability to really take some chances going after the QB, this D turns up the heat like wow! I think this team wins 10 games.
Tom, Hue is not going to get fired. Baker gives everyone a chance to shine. i think we learned that Holmgren was a dildo. WIthout Favre, he would have been nothing. Dorsey, and give some props to Sashi really put some talent on this team. I gave you a lot of schmidlap about Williams, but if we think his D has been impressive? I have to think that now, with a 31 point weekly offense, a rested D, and the ability to really take some chances going after the QB, this D turns up the heat like wow! I think this team wins 10 games.
My big concern is with Roger going all sissy boi on the tackling rules.. Is anyone allowed to tackle the QB anymore , let alone sack the Bish?
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Tom, Hue is not going to get fired. Baker gives everyone a chance to shine. i think we learned that Holmgren was a dildo. WIthout Favre, he would have been nothing. Dorsey, and give some props to Sashi really put some talent on this team. I gave you a lot of schmidlap about Williams, but if we think his D has been impressive? I have to think that now, with a 31 point weekly offense, a rested D, and the ability to really take some chances going after the QB, this D turns up the heat like wow! I think this team wins 10 games.
My big concern is with Roger going all sissy boi on the tackling rules.. Is anyone allowed to tackle the QB anymore , let alone sack the Bish?
My big concern is with Roger going all sissy boi on the tackling rules.. Is anyone allowed to tackle the QB anymore , let alone sack the Bish?
I look at rule changes like the time paradox in physics. If you were able to go back in time and you changed something, when you returned to the Future, things would be totally different because of what you altered.
We all know that the NFL we grew up with is not what we have today. We, traditionalists, are pizzed off and we see consider the rule changes a deterioration of the game we love. We keep telling ourselves that the league will soon experience dwindling interest and the realize they have to go back to the way it was when we all liked it. But I don't see that happening. I believe we are far more worked up about this stuff than the NFL power are.
I believe they see the league, the rules, the standards as a flowing body of tools that they will change, alter, manipulate and vary as they see fit to meet the needs of the moment.
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My big concern is with Roger going all sissy boi on the tackling rules.. Is anyone allowed to tackle the QB anymore , let alone sack the Bish?
I look at rule changes like the time paradox in physics. If you were able to go back in time and you changed something, when you returned to the Future, things would be totally different because of what you altered.
We all know that the NFL we grew up with is not what we have today. We, traditionalists, are pizzed off and we see consider the rule changes a deterioration of the game we love. We keep telling ourselves that the league will soon experience dwindling interest and the realize they have to go back to the way it was when we all liked it. But I don't see that happening. I believe we are far more worked up about this stuff than the NFL power are.
I believe they see the league, the rules, the standards as a flowing body of tools that they will change, alter, manipulate and vary as they see fit to meet the needs of the moment.
I look at rule changes like the time paradox in physics. If you were able to go back in time and you changed something, when you returned to the Future, things would be totally different because of what you altered.
We all know that the NFL we grew up with is not what we have today. We, traditionalists, are pizzed off and we see consider the rule changes a deterioration of the game we love. We keep telling ourselves that the league will soon experience dwindling interest and the realize they have to go back to the way it was when we all liked it. But I don't see that happening. I believe we are far more worked up about this stuff than the NFL power are.
I believe they see the league, the rules, the standards as a flowing body of tools that they will change, alter, manipulate and vary as they see fit to meet the needs of the moment.
Here's the deal on the new put a dress on the QB rule. Everyone thinks it sucks (except the Quarterbacks, of course). The Fans, Defensive players, Owners (most notably Jerrah Jones), and even the Competition Committee who wrote the stinking rule. Seems the Refs are misinterpreting the intent. Supposedly there's going to be a group call soon to straighten out this mess.
We know it's impossible for a guy running full tilt at a QB can't magically pull up at the last fraction of a second to mitigate a hit. And if they do, big guys like Roethlisberger and Newton will just bounce off and make a big play. I saw some incredible BS calls, one the defender just shoves the qb, doesn't even knock him down, and they threw a flag. Un-freaking- believable.
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I look at rule changes like the time paradox in physics. If you were able to go back in time and you changed something, when you returned to the Future, things would be totally different because of what you altered.
We all know that the NFL we grew up with is not what we have today. We, traditionalists, are pizzed off and we see consider the rule changes a deterioration of the game we love. We keep telling ourselves that the league will soon experience dwindling interest and the realize they have to go back to the way it was when we all liked it. But I don't see that happening. I believe we are far more worked up about this stuff than the NFL power are.
I believe they see the league, the rules, the standards as a flowing body of tools that they will change, alter, manipulate and vary as they see fit to meet the needs of the moment.
Here's the deal on the new put a dress on the QB rule. Everyone thinks it sucks (except the Quarterbacks, of course). The Fans, Defensive players, Owners (most notably Jerrah Jones), and even the Competition Committee who wrote the stinking rule. Seems the Refs are misinterpreting the intent. Supposedly there's going to be a group call soon to straighten out this mess.
We know it's impossible for a guy running full tilt at a QB can't magically pull up at the last fraction of a second to mitigate a hit. And if they do, big guys like Roethlisberger and Newton will just bounce off and make a big play. I saw some incredible BS calls, one the defender just shoves the qb, doesn't even knock him down, and they threw a flag. Un-freaking- believable.
Here's the deal on the new put a dress on the QB rule. Everyone thinks it sucks (except the Quarterbacks, of course). The Fans, Defensive players, Owners (most notably Jerrah Jones), and even the Competition Committee who wrote the stinking rule. Seems the Refs are misinterpreting the intent. Supposedly there's going to be a group call soon to straighten out this mess.
We know it's impossible for a guy running full tilt at a QB can't magically pull up at the last fraction of a second to mitigate a hit. And if they do, big guys like Roethlisberger and Newton will just bounce off and make a big play. I saw some incredible BS calls, one the defender just shoves the qb, doesn't even knock him down, and they threw a flag. Un-freaking- believable.
From what I can make of the whole deal on QBs. The rule makers never played the game so they have no real world concept about things like gravity and laws of motion. Doesn't seem overly smart but I guess big money does that.
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Here's the deal on the new put a dress on the QB rule. Everyone thinks it sucks (except the Quarterbacks, of course). The Fans, Defensive players, Owners (most notably Jerrah Jones), and even the Competition Committee who wrote the stinking rule. Seems the Refs are misinterpreting the intent. Supposedly there's going to be a group call soon to straighten out this mess.
We know it's impossible for a guy running full tilt at a QB can't magically pull up at the last fraction of a second to mitigate a hit. And if they do, big guys like Roethlisberger and Newton will just bounce off and make a big play. I saw some incredible BS calls, one the defender just shoves the qb, doesn't even knock him down, and they threw a flag. Un-freaking- believable.
From what I can make of the whole deal on QBs. The rule makers never played the game so they have no real world concept about things like gravity and laws of motion. Doesn't seem overly smart but I guess big money does that.
The rule makers never played the game so they have no real world concept about things like gravity and laws of motion.
Even "Under review" the ink writers can't get right..I was listening to Dean Blandino on NFL radio try to explain why the N.Chubb punt was not reversed..In his words "the balls rotation never changed" ?..adding more rules to a game they could not get right the first time was never a good idea..Any ref that could retire did..Don't blame them..?
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The rule makers never played the game so they have no real world concept about things like gravity and laws of motion.
Even "Under review" the ink writers can't get right..I was listening to Dean Blandino on NFL radio try to explain why the N.Chubb punt was not reversed..In his words "the balls rotation never changed" ?..adding more rules to a game they could not get right the first time was never a good idea..Any ref that could retire did..Don't blame them..?
Even "Under review" the ink writers can't get right..I was listening to Dean Blandino on NFL radio try to explain why the N.Chubb punt was not reversed..In his words "the balls rotation never changed" ?..adding more rules to a game they could not get right the first time was never a good idea..Any ref that could retire did..Don't blame them..?
Yep, if you can't explain something do that a 6 year old can understand it, you don't know what you are talking about about.
They can't explain the damned rule yet expect it to be enforced????
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Should be defined as pile driving without even attempting to put an appendage out to stop some of the impact and of course full body slam by picking up and throwing forcefully down into the turf like Suh always did. The second one should be automatic ejection from the game. The first should be ejection for a second offense in the same game by the same player.
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I look at rule changes like the time paradox in physics. If you were able to go back in time and you changed something, when you returned to the Future, things would be totally different because of what you altered.
We all know that the NFL we grew up with is not what we have today. We, traditionalists, are pizzed off and we see consider the rule changes a deterioration of the game we love. We keep telling ourselves that the league will soon experience dwindling interest and the realize they have to go back to the way it was when we all liked it. But I don't see that happening. I believe we are far more worked up about this stuff than the NFL power are.
I believe they see the league, the rules, the standards as a flowing body of tools that they will change, alter, manipulate and vary as they see fit to meet the needs of the moment.
Here's the deal on the new put a dress on the QB rule. Everyone thinks it sucks (except the Quarterbacks, of course). The Fans, Defensive players, Owners (most notably Jerrah Jones), and even the Competition Committee who wrote the stinking rule. Seems the Refs are misinterpreting the intent. Supposedly there's going to be a group call soon to straighten out this mess.
We know it's impossible for a guy running full tilt at a QB can't magically pull up at the last fraction of a second to mitigate a hit. And if they do, big guys like Roethlisberger and Newton will just bounce off and make a big play. I saw some incredible BS calls, one the defender just shoves the qb, doesn't even knock him down, and they threw a flag. Un-freaking- believable.
Here's the deal on the new put a dress on the QB rule. Everyone thinks it sucks (except the Quarterbacks, of course). The Fans, Defensive players, Owners (most notably Jerrah Jones), and even the Competition Committee who wrote the stinking rule. Seems the Refs are misinterpreting the intent. Supposedly there's going to be a group call soon to straighten out this mess.
We know it's impossible for a guy running full tilt at a QB can't magically pull up at the last fraction of a second to mitigate a hit. And if they do, big guys like Roethlisberger and Newton will just bounce off and make a big play. I saw some incredible BS calls, one the defender just shoves the qb, doesn't even knock him down, and they threw a flag. Un-freaking- believable.
I hear what you are saying, but again, I believe the genie is out of the bottle and it will never return to what it was. Here is where I take exception to your thinking. You believe that fan dissatisfaction drives the owners and Godell. I believe that fan anger is secondary to the owner's goals. I believe fan anger is generally appeased with smoke and mirrors, or occasionally throwing us a bone, usually a Trojan horse.
Lookie here. Owners have decided that they want their biggest team investment, the QB protected. They want increased longevity and the rough-and-tumble spirit of leather helmet bash football is way, way down on the list of priorities. Add to that, the NFL is waging a covert war on parents who are shying away from letting their kids play football because of the brutality and injuries. The owners all have a vested interest in what football will look like when you and I are dead.
THAT is what the owners are forging as we speak. We have had this conversation before my friend, and you still remain a purist. Larry, our era of football is gone, dead, cast aside. What you are witnessing now is the planting of seeds for Superbowl 100, for the NFL 2050. The fan uproar will be thrown a bone, but next year, something new will be added to protect the QB. in this case the euphemism is reversed. It is one step backward, then two forward. It is a new day, my friend.
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2-32-1. Only the Browns could keep this guy
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
He will start Black Tarkenton next week.
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