Do you realize we now have 4 potential super stars?
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I know I am jumping the gun on Baker, but even without him we have 3 bonafide stars on our team now...
Garret and Ward on Defense. Absolute game changers who elevate the play of those around them.
And on Offense you have the sure and steady hands of Jarvis Landry. Again a person that seems to elevate those around him..
And depending on how he does against the Raiders, At least in 1 game Baker Mayfield elevated an entire team with his play and presence. The team was going over the edge and we were on our way to another loss.. Baker took the field and with a combination of great play, but more importantly, the fact that people elevated their play merely because he was on the field, was beyond obvious.
There is an IT factor when it comes to having superstars on your team.. We've had good even borderline great players these past 18 or 19 years of the new Browns, but no superstars... We are on the cusp of having 4.. The potential positive affect this can have on our team will be incredible to watch if it comes to fruition...
Only 1 game under our belts, so this is just wishful thinking at this point, but the potential is there.
BobPound!
I know I am jumping the gun on Baker, but even without him we have 3 bonafide stars on our team now...
Garret and Ward on Defense. Absolute game changers who elevate the play of those around them.
And on Offense you have the sure and steady hands of Jarvis Landry. Again a person that seems to elevate those around him..
And depending on how he does against the Raiders, At least in 1 game Baker Mayfield elevated an entire team with his play and presence. The team was going over the edge and we were on our way to another loss.. Baker took the field and with a combination of great play, but more importantly, the fact that people elevated their play merely because he was on the field, was beyond obvious.
There is an IT factor when it comes to having superstars on your team.. We've had good even borderline great players these past 18 or 19 years of the new Browns, but no superstars... We are on the cusp of having 4.. The potential positive affect this can have on our team will be incredible to watch if it comes to fruition...
Only 1 game under our belts, so this is just wishful thinking at this point, but the potential is there.
BobPound!
I think more than that. Ogunjobi looks to be a stud in the making. Calloway has an extra gear and good hands. I think he can be a super player. Avery is flashing.
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Superstars?
Uh, maybe just pump the breaks a little here
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Landry is a really good football player.....and a really good 'team' guy, EXCEPT after he makes a good catch/play. THEN, all of a sudden, he becomes an 'I' player....who's susceptible to getting unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. He's GOTTA learn to keep himself under control.
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A non-superstar that seems to make a special play each game is Joe Schobert.
Landry is a really good football player.....and a really good 'team' guy, EXCEPT after he makes a good catch/play. THEN, all of a sudden, he becomes an 'I' player....who's susceptible to getting unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. He's GOTTA learn to keep himself under control.
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A non-superstar that seems to make a special play each game is Joe Schobert.
I love me some Jarvis Landry. His attitude is the exact thing we need in Cleveland. That being said, I fear he's going to cost us soon with his "fire" and get a penalty. He could've easily been called a few times this year, and they would have been damning. I'm hoping he totes the line, but I do believe a penalty on him is coming.
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Superstars?
Uh, maybe just pump the breaks a little here
OK Judas. Stand on your mountain top and cry out your warnings. Too much Heaven on our minds?
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The defense is already a playoff caliber defense, and if Baker continues to impress, the Cleveland Browns will no longer be pushovers.
I have a feeling there's going to be multiple Pro Bowlers on this team this year.
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Joe Schobert is going to be one of those guys that quietly has a very good career.
He looks a hell of a lot like Gary Fencik (85 Bears) doesnt he?.. Only Fencik was a safety If I remember correctly..
He looks a hell of a lot like Gary Fencik (85 Bears) doesnt he?.. Only Fencik was a safety If I remember correctly..
Your memory is fine. He was theor FS and still hold the franchise record for career INTs.
Superstars? Uh, maybe just pump the breaks a little here
Agree... the potential is undeniable for Myles, Ward and a couple others, but oddly the only one with a history of excelling, Landry, gets dismissed.
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Superstar is a subjective term I guess, we have three very nice potentials in Mayfield, Garrett, and Ward.
Landry could be on a HOF path if he stays healthy and has productive longevity.
Z
Zombo said:
Superstar is a subjective term I guess, we have three very nice potentials in Mayfield, Garrett, and Ward.
Landry could be on a HOF path if he stays healthy and has productive longevity.
Z
I would add one more that I think may blossom into what we all hope happens for the Browns, that long distance speed burner that opens up the short and intermediate game for Landry, Antonio Callaway. There is so much potential there to clearly replace the talent that was wasted by Josh Gordon. Let us hope that he continues to mature under the guidance of team leader and obvious professional example of Jarvis Landry.
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We'll see with Callaway. He does have that Joey Galloway breakaway speed, especially when he runs outside the numbers. I'm glad those Clowney-Garrett comparisons have stopped. Garrett is stronger, has more violent hands, and actually possesses a bull rush.
I was a little skeptical with Ward, but man, the kid is a playmaker. The book on him coming out of college was his inabaility to take the jam during a WR release, but his hips are so unbelievably fluid, he could probably match Tyreek Hill step-for-step. Very excited.
I love Juice, and his 40 was the only reason why he dropped so far in the draft. His 'football speed' was undeniable though, and his hands are every bit as good as Odell's. A notch below Larry Legend's.
Obviously nothing is etched in stone and some guys may have better careers, but gut feeling:
superstars - Myles Garrett, Denzel Ward, Baker Mayfield, Juice.
very good players - Joe Schobert, Christian Kirksey, Antonio Callaway.
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We'll see with Callaway. He does have that Joey Galloway breakaway speed, especially when he runs outside the numbers. I'm glad those Clowney-Garrett comparisons have stopped. Garrett is stronger, has more violent hands, and actually possesses a bull rush.
I was a little skeptical with Ward, but man, the kid is a playmaker. The book on him coming out of college was his inabaility to take the jam during a WR release, but his hips are so unbelievably fluid, he could probably match Tyreek Hill step-for-step. Very excited.
I love Juice, and his 40 was the only reason why he dropped so far in the draft. His 'football speed' was undeniable though, and his hands are every bit as good as Odell's. A notch below Larry Legend's.
Obviously nothing is etched in stone and some guys may have better careers, but gut feeling:
superstars - Myles Garrett, Denzel Ward, Baker Mayfield, Juice.
very good players - Joe Schobert, Christian Kirksey, Antonio Callaway.
We'll see with Callaway. He does have that Joey Galloway breakaway speed, especially when he runs outside the numbers. I'm glad those Clowney-Garrett comparisons have stopped. Garrett is stronger, has more violent hands, and actually possesses a bull rush.
I was a little skeptical with Ward, but man, the kid is a playmaker. The book on him coming out of college was his inabaility to take the jam during a WR release, but his hips are so unbelievably fluid, he could probably match Tyreek Hill step-for-step. Very excited.
I love Juice, and his 40 was the only reason why he dropped so far in the draft. His 'football speed' was undeniable though, and his hands are every bit as good as Odell's. A notch below Larry Legend's.
Obviously nothing is etched in stone and some guys may have better careers, but gut feeling:
superstars - Myles Garrett, Denzel Ward, Baker Mayfield, Juice.
very good players - Joe Schobert, Christian Kirksey, Antonio Callaway.
If Callaway stays clean, he may reach superstar status & the jury is out on Njoku who, I believe, will thrive with Baker as QB.
Mike
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We'll see with Callaway. He does have that Joey Galloway breakaway speed, especially when he runs outside the numbers. I'm glad those Clowney-Garrett comparisons have stopped. Garrett is stronger, has more violent hands, and actually possesses a bull rush.
I was a little skeptical with Ward, but man, the kid is a playmaker. The book on him coming out of college was his inabaility to take the jam during a WR release, but his hips are so unbelievably fluid, he could probably match Tyreek Hill step-for-step. Very excited.
I love Juice, and his 40 was the only reason why he dropped so far in the draft. His 'football speed' was undeniable though, and his hands are every bit as good as Odell's. A notch below Larry Legend's.
Obviously nothing is etched in stone and some guys may have better careers, but gut feeling:
superstars - Myles Garrett, Denzel Ward, Baker Mayfield, Juice.
very good players - Joe Schobert, Christian Kirksey, Antonio Callaway.
If Callaway stays clean, he may reach superstar status & the jury is out on Njoku who, I believe, will thrive with Baker as QB.
Mike
If Callaway stays clean, he may reach superstar status & the jury is out on Njoku who, I believe, will thrive with Baker as QB.
Mike
At this point it's all just projecting these guys' careers so early out, but my biggest concern with Njoku are 1. his hands and 2. he still doesn't know how to use his eyes. He's so physically gifted he should snagging these, i'm not sure if it's mental or if Tyrod didn't place them perfectly for him. But it's the dawn of a new era with Mayfield so we'll see.
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Browns beat reporter Daryl Ruiter just tweeted. . .
Baker Mayfield named Rookie for the Week today. Denzel Ward won in Week 1. Great sign for John Dorsey's top picks. #Browns have had a multitude of first rounders over the years that weren't even considered for the award.
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We'll see with Callaway. He does have that Joey Galloway breakaway speed, especially when he runs outside the numbers. I'm glad those Clowney-Garrett comparisons have stopped. Garrett is stronger, has more violent hands, and actually possesses a bull rush.
I was a little skeptical with Ward, but man, the kid is a playmaker. The book on him coming out of college was his inabaility to take the jam during a WR release, but his hips are so unbelievably fluid, he could probably match Tyreek Hill step-for-step. Very excited.
I love Juice, and his 40 was the only reason why he dropped so far in the draft. His 'football speed' was undeniable though, and his hands are every bit as good as Odell's. A notch below Larry Legend's.
Obviously nothing is etched in stone and some guys may have better careers, but gut feeling:
superstars - Myles Garrett, Denzel Ward, Baker Mayfield, Juice.
very good players - Joe Schobert, Christian Kirksey, Antonio Callaway.
We'll see with Callaway. He does have that Joey Galloway breakaway speed, especially when he runs outside the numbers. I'm glad those Clowney-Garrett comparisons have stopped. Garrett is stronger, has more violent hands, and actually possesses a bull rush.
I was a little skeptical with Ward, but man, the kid is a playmaker. The book on him coming out of college was his inabaility to take the jam during a WR release, but his hips are so unbelievably fluid, he could probably match Tyreek Hill step-for-step. Very excited.
I love Juice, and his 40 was the only reason why he dropped so far in the draft. His 'football speed' was undeniable though, and his hands are every bit as good as Odell's. A notch below Larry Legend's.
Obviously nothing is etched in stone and some guys may have better careers, but gut feeling:
superstars - Myles Garrett, Denzel Ward, Baker Mayfield, Juice.
very good players - Joe Schobert, Christian Kirksey, Antonio Callaway.
Calloway or Galloway?
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The bigger question should be, why the hell did the Chiefs let Dorsey go? Some notable selections :
- Tyreek Hill
- Pat Mahomes
- Marcus Peters
- Travis Kelce
- Kareem Hunt
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The bigger question should be, why the hell did the Chiefs let Dorsey go? Some notable selections :
- Tyreek Hill
- Pat Mahomes
- Marcus Peters
- Travis Kelce
- Kareem Hunt
On Njoku... I think he looks better reacting to Baker's "fast balls" than TT's... ummmm... "medium speed" throws. The ball low and behind him (IIRC correctly Baker's 2nd pass) he reacted to and went down and got it.
Waiting on a ball tends to make receivers nervous... especially high, soft ones over the middle.
The bigger question should be, why the hell did the Chiefs let Dorsey go?
Because he was a controlling a$$hole... did not communicate worth a flip.
Hopefully he's better now...cause he certainly has an eye for talent.
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Joe Schobert is going to be one of those guys that quietly has a very good career.
He looks a hell of a lot like Gary Fencik (85 Bears) doesnt he?.. Only Fencik was a safety If I remember correctly..
He looks a hell of a lot like Gary Fencik (85 Bears) doesnt he?.. Only Fencik was a safety If I remember correctly..
I see a diluted version of Luke Kuechly. Not quite the same 1st step instinct; but seemingly the same weekly preparation that has him all over the place making tackles. Now that we're not lining the Safeties up so deep all the time, he's been productive defending the pass within more reasonable zone coverage boundaries and transitions.
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