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I'm happy with the developments of the day.
If any of the allegations are shown to be true and Kavanaugh was lying under oath then Kananaugh is history... including removal from the DC Court of Appeals.
If the allegations are shown to be false and Cavanaugh was truthful in his testimony, then he should be confirmed 100-0.
Should she then be prosecuted?
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Should she then be prosecuted?
Prosecuted? If the investigation produces evidence that she "made sh!t up", then yes. A Grand Jury would likely indict and she would be tried.
That's how the process works.
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Sexual Assualt allegations not being proved true is not the same thing as proving they were purposefully false allegations
except her story is full of holes. Her alleged witnesses are denying her story.
:"Innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to the left, per the left.
nazis were above the law, too. The left is now going after conservatives like
the nazis went after the Jews.
the left has their own brownshirts as final leverage.
Being not guilty is not the same as "we wish and say he's guilty because of our fuhrer (read: "leftwing ideology"
except her story is full of holes. Her alleged witnesses are denying her story.
:"Innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to the left, per the left.
nazis were above the law, too. The left is now going after conservatives like
the nazis went after the Jews.
the left has their own brownshirts as final leverage.
Being not guilty is not the same as "we wish and say he's guilty because of our fuhrer (read: "leftwing ideology"
cal, what is it that drives you to win every race to the bottom?
First... holes. She has gaps in her memory of the event. This is common in PTSD cases. One of the principle symptoms is "intrusive memories", a/k/a flashbacks.
Second... "denying" is an interesting choice here. How can someone deny they did not see an event at a party on an unknown date at an unknown time in an unknown place?
Your "denials" take the form of "I do not recall". Which is not an explicit denial. The exception to this point is Mark Whats-his-face. We'll see if that denial holds up.
Third... everything else is pure garbage and not worth addressing.
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Sexual Assualt allegations not being proved true is not the same thing as proving they were purposefully false allegations
Last I heard, Roy Moore’s accusers are being sued.
Last I heard, Roy Moore’s accusers are being sued.
True... but then I read it in the NYT so it could be fake news.
Also true...one of his accusers filed suit against him first making his in this one case a countersuit...
https://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2018/03/judge_denies_roy_moores_reques.html
I found nothing about him suing the mall that banned him...
If they are found guilty hope there's jail time.
Ummmmm... that's not how civil suits work, Steve.
I edited out the garbage in your case.. You are welcome.
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The Dems better be careful asking for an FBI investigation.
I’m sure there’s several things they’re going to look into...like Ford’s recently closed social media accounts.
Not to mention that big fat Go Fund Me account that’s currently sitting over $500k.
The Dems better be careful asking for an FBI investigation.
I’m sure there’s several things they’re going to look into...like Ford’s recently closed social media accounts.
Not to mention that big fat Go Fund Me account that’s currently sitting over $500k.
Go Fund Me's are illegal?
As for the social media accounts... how many death threats, how much vitriol would you subject yourself to before cancelling them?
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The Dems better be careful asking for an FBI investigation.
I’m sure there’s several things they’re going to look into...like Ford’s recently closed social media accounts.
Not to mention that big fat Go Fund Me account that’s currently sitting over $500k.
Go Fund Me's are illegal?
As for the social media accounts... how many death threats, how much vitriol would you subject yourself to before cancelling them?
Go Fund Me's are illegal?
As for the social media accounts... how many death threats, how much vitriol would you subject yourself to before cancelling them?
Who said Go Fund Me’s are illegal?
Let’s just say if the FBI uncovers some large contributions from Feinstein or Maxine...it wouldn’t be flattering.
While we’re talking about flattering, the mini FBI investigation its going to uncover some not no nice things about Ford.
Kavanaugh has already been investigated like 5 or 6 times, I would be surprised if they found anything on him.
Like I said in another post, it doesn’t matter if the FBI comes up clean...the Libs won’t vote for him regardless (can you say sham?).
Ford didn’t cancel her social media accounts, she just changed her name, but her new handle didn’t remain a secret for long.
And to answer your question regarding how many death threats did she receive? I would guess about half as many as Kavanaugh.
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except her story is full of holes. Her alleged witnesses are denying her story.
:"Innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to the left, per the left.
nazis were above the law, too. The left is now going after conservatives like
the nazis went after the Jews.
the left has their own brownshirts as final leverage.
Being not guilty is not the same as "we wish and say he's guilty because of our fuhrer (read: "leftwing ideology"
cal, what is it that drives you to win every race to the bottom?
First... holes. She has gaps in her memory of the event. This is common in PTSD cases. One of the principle symptoms is "intrusive memories", a/k/a flashbacks.
Second... "denying" is an interesting choice here. How can someone deny they did not see an event at a party on an unknown date at an unknown time in an unknown place?
Your "denials" take the form of "I do not recall". Which is not an explicit denial. The exception to this point is Mark Whats-his-face. We'll see if that denial holds up.
Third... everything else is pure garbage and not worth addressing.
First... holes. She has gaps in her memory of the event. This is common in PTSD cases. One of the principle symptoms is "intrusive memories", a/k/a flashbacks.
Second... "denying" is an interesting choice here. How can someone deny they did not see an event at a party on an unknown date at an unknown time in an unknown place?
Your "denials" take the form of "I do not recall". Which is not an explicit denial. The exception to this point is Mark Whats-his-face. We'll see if that denial holds up.
Third... everything else is pure garbage and not worth addressing.
Great! now when can we all expect our tax dollars at work back! man i hope they find out who filled up this broken down Ford..Carry on..
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The Dems better be careful asking for an FBI investigation.
I’m sure there’s several things they’re going to look into...like Ford’s recently closed social media accounts.
Not to mention that big fat Go Fund Me account that’s currently sitting over $500k.
Go Fund Me's are illegal?
As for the social media accounts... how many death threats, how much vitriol would you subject yourself to before cancelling them?
Go Fund Me's are illegal?
As for the social media accounts... how many death threats, how much vitriol would you subject yourself to before cancelling them?
The legal system probably needs to take a look at some of the Go Fund Me accounts:
LAW PROFESSOR JONATHAN TURLEY CRITICIZES GOFUNDME FOR ALLOWING PEOPLE TO PURCHASE LEGAL TESTIMONY
https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/27/gofundme-legal-testimony-purchase/
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except her story is full of holes. Her alleged witnesses are denying her story.
:"Innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to the left, per the left.
nazis were above the law, too. The left is now going after conservatives like
the nazis went after the Jews.
the left has their own brownshirts as final leverage.
Being not guilty is not the same as "we wish and say he's guilty because of our fuhrer (read: "leftwing ideology"
cal, what is it that drives you to win every race to the bottom?
First... holes. She has gaps in her memory of the event. This is common in PTSD cases. One of the principle symptoms is "intrusive memories", a/k/a flashbacks.
Second... "denying" is an interesting choice here. How can someone deny they did not see an event at a party on an unknown date at an unknown time in an unknown place?
Your "denials" take the form of "I do not recall". Which is not an explicit denial. The exception to this point is Mark Whats-his-face. We'll see if that denial holds up.
Third... everything else is pure garbage and not worth addressing.
cal, what is it that drives you to win every race to the bottom?
Tour, what drives you to to bitch about a good point being made? What I posted, contrary to what you posted...is TRUE.
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First... holes. She has gaps in her memory of the event. This is common in PTSD cases. One of the principle symptoms is "intrusive memories", a/k/a flashbacks.
her "gaps" are pretty profound. She has no idea who drove her to the party? No idea who drove her home? The people she said were there, say no such event happened at all? never did happen? Then she says they left the upstairs and she heard them conversing with others at the party, then said she "knows" they did because she guesses that they did?" and she has every poltiical motive to lie? NEVER mentioned Kavanaugh all these freaking years until he was in the last three list of nominees, and the most obvious nominee? PTSD - pretty little whiney voice? did you listen to the body language expert ridiculing her performance? no tears for your fake "PTSD" ? But go ahead and "know" you WANT her story to be true. That is what is really scum-bucket low.
Second... "denying" is an interesting choice here. How can someone deny they did not see an event at a party on an unknown date at an unknown time in an unknown place?
They denied it ever happened EVER. It never happened. NEVER. Doesn't matter about unknown time or place. It never happened. You really don't understand that? Sad.
Your "denials" take the form of "I do not recall". Which is not an explicit denial. The exception to this point is Mark Whats-his-face. We'll see if that denial holds up.
Legally, "I do not recall" is a nice way of saying your new heroine Phoney Ford is a liar. Nobody, not one person, even her closest friend from back then, remembered ANYTHING about what she was saying. and, Ford said her parents lived close to the party. LIE. Eight miles is not close.
Third... everything else is pure garbage and not worth addressing.
Tour translation: "I want to give Ford great big smoochies for destroying Kavanaugh's life and family with grief, because I support the liberals and I love ROE vs WADE"
Your support of this farce is tragic. With ZERO EVIDENCE, she has ruined an excellent man's life.
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I don't know that anyone here believes dr. Ford or seriously wants the FBI investigation to go forward. But if you do what in fact do you expect, or hope for, the investigation to show you? And if her accusations remain unverified would you support her being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law? Why or why not?
WSS
I don't know that anyone here believes dr. Ford or seriously wants the FBI investigation to go forward. But if you do what in fact do you expect, or hope for, the investigation to show you? And if her accusations remain unverified would you support her being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law? Why or why not?
WSS
This was a mistake by Dems. Rosenstien likes Kavanaugh. The FBI is only going to interview those who already have no knowledge of this nonsense. Under an FBI investigation the press and Dems are going to have to shut up.
I predict they wrap this up and even some Dems will vote for the judge.
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If, and if is the key word, you support giving someone a pass for making false statements that can ruin someone's life I think that's a pretty fuked-up position.
WSS
No, it isn't.
Just like it needs to be proven that he committed this crimes, it would need to be proven that she purposefully falsely accused him.
There is a middle ground in there where neither is proven in a court of law.
I know some of you on here have a hard time with things that aren't black and white though
No, it isn't.
Just like it needs to be proven that he committed this crimes, it would need to be proven that she purposefully falsely accused him.
There is a middle ground in there where neither is proven in a court of law.
I know some of you on here have a hard time with things that aren't black and white though
You really don't have to go down the playing stupid path every time and pretend you don't know what I'm talking about. If alleging sexual misconduct is not that big a deal to you even if it has extreme negative effects on a man's life then I think your position is fuked up. I gave you the example of a black man being accused of rape or something similar by a woman who is an outspoken racist and he loses his job and or does jail time. You wouldn't think she should be prosecuted for that? But it's okay if the accused is a white male?
WSS
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I don't know that anyone here believes dr. Ford or seriously wants the FBI investigation to go forward. But if you do what in fact do you expect, or hope for, the investigation to show you? And if her accusations remain unverified would you support her being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law? Why or why not?
WSS
This was a mistake by Dems. Rosenstien likes Kavanaugh. The FBI is only going to interview those who already have no knowledge of this nonsense. Under an FBI investigation the press and Dems are going to have to shut up.
I predict they wrap this up and even some Dems will vote for the judge.
This was a mistake by Dems. Rosenstien likes Kavanaugh. The FBI is only going to interview those who already have no knowledge of this nonsense. Under an FBI investigation the press and Dems are going to have to shut up.
I predict they wrap this up and even some Dems will vote for the judge.
I would hope so. Nobody hated Kavanaugh until a week ago. I mean of course the Democrats and some of the members here will hate anybody Trump puts up but that's not the point.
Given the fact that the FBI won't prove or disprove much of anything and limited scope and time. I have absolutely no doubt that at the end of the week they will be outraged because they weren't allowed to probe this or that or didn't have enough time or some BS.
WSS
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Bernie Sanders wants them to investigate if he has a drinking problem and lied under oath. Wait until tomorrow when thousands of women will accuse him.
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so, little commie dirty matt damon apparently did a sick skit on SNL.
He played Kavanaugh dribbling water down his shirt, etc etc etc etc.
But he says he has 10 million bucks and would sue anybody who ever besmirched HIS name.
Way out of control. They want to start a civil war of sorts if they have to.
Big serious trouble is here.
Haven't had my coffee yet. lol
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This was a mistake by Dems. Rosenstien likes Kavanaugh. The FBI is only going to interview those who already have no knowledge of this nonsense. Under an FBI investigation the press and Dems are going to have to shut up.
I predict they wrap this up and even some Dems will vote for the judge.
I would hope so. Nobody hated Kavanaugh until a week ago. I mean of course the Democrats and some of the members here will hate anybody Trump puts up but that's not the point.
Given the fact that the FBI won't prove or disprove much of anything and limited scope and time. I have absolutely no doubt that at the end of the week they will be outraged because they weren't allowed to probe this or that or didn't have enough time or some BS.
WSS
I would hope so. Nobody hated Kavanaugh until a week ago. I mean of course the Democrats and some of the members here will hate anybody Trump puts up but that's not the point.
Given the fact that the FBI won't prove or disprove much of anything and limited scope and time. I have absolutely no doubt that at the end of the week they will be outraged because they weren't allowed to probe this or that or didn't have enough time or some BS.
WSS
Of course, but they will no longer have enouhh public support to delay or block his confirmation.
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so, little commie dirty matt damon apparently did a sick skit on SNL.
He played Kavanaugh dribbling water down his shirt, etc etc etc etc.
But he says he has 10 million bucks and would sue anybody who ever besmirched HIS name.
Way out of control. They want to start a civil war of sorts if they have to.
Big serious trouble is here.
Haven't had my coffee yet. lol
so, little commie dirty matt damon apparently did a sick skit on SNL.
He played Kavanaugh dribbling water down his shirt, etc etc etc etc.
But he says he has 10 million bucks and would sue anybody who ever besmirched HIS name.
Way out of control. They want to start a civil war of sorts if they have to.
Big serious trouble is here.
Haven't had my coffee yet. lol
The hypocrisy on the left defies reason time after time:
Liberals LOVE guy who defended Harvey Weinstein because he mocked Kavanaugh on SNL!!
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I would hope so. Nobody hated Kavanaugh until a week ago. I mean of course the Democrats and some of the members here will hate anybody Trump puts up but that's not the point.
Given the fact that the FBI won't prove or disprove much of anything and limited scope and time. I have absolutely no doubt that at the end of the week they will be outraged because they weren't allowed to probe this or that or didn't have enough time or some BS.
WSS
Of course, but they will no longer have enouhh public support to delay or block his confirmation.
Of course, but they will no longer have enouhh public support to delay or block his confirmation.
I get the feeling they don't really care about him they just want to make sure that women are whipped up for the midterms. Feinstein already walked it back a little bit changing her position to one that states he doesn't have the temperament to be a Supreme Court Justice. As if someone who would be angry by being accused of a horrendous crime would take it in stride.
Hopefully they can pick off a few Red State Democrat senators.
WSS
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No, it isn't.
Just like it needs to be proven that he committed this crimes, it would need to be proven that she purposefully falsely accused him.
There is a middle ground in there where neither is proven in a court of law.
I know some of you on here have a hard time with things that aren't black and white though
You really don't have to go down the playing stupid path every time and pretend you don't know what I'm talking about. If alleging sexual misconduct is not that big a deal to you even if it has extreme negative effects on a man's life then I think your position is fuked up. I gave you the example of a black man being accused of rape or something similar by a woman who is an outspoken racist and he loses his job and or does jail time. You wouldn't think she should be prosecuted for that? But it's okay if the accused is a white male?
WSS
You really don't have to go down the playing stupid path every time and pretend you don't know what I'm talking about. If alleging sexual misconduct is not that big a deal to you even if it has extreme negative effects on a man's life then I think your position is fuked up. I gave you the example of a black man being accused of rape or something similar by a woman who is an outspoken racist and he loses his job and or does jail time. You wouldn't think she should be prosecuted for that? But it's okay if the accused is a white male?
WSS
Holy Shmuck Steve I give up. I can't be any clearer. I'm not doing this game where you put words in my mouth and I have to go defend myself. If you don't follow, or choose not to follow, I give up
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You really don't have to go down the playing stupid path every time and pretend you don't know what I'm talking about. If alleging sexual misconduct is not that big a deal to you even if it has extreme negative effects on a man's life then I think your position is fuked up. I gave you the example of a black man being accused of rape or something similar by a woman who is an outspoken racist and he loses his job and or does jail time. You wouldn't think she should be prosecuted for that? But it's okay if the accused is a white male?
WSS
Holy Shmuck Steve I give up. I can't be any clearer. I'm not doing this game where you put words in my mouth and I have to go defend myself. If you don't follow, or choose not to follow, I give up
Holy Shmuck Steve I give up. I can't be any clearer. I'm not doing this game where you put words in my mouth and I have to go defend myself. If you don't follow, or choose not to follow, I give up
Not asking you to play any game you made yourself pretty clear. It doesn't really bother you if some woman ruins a guy's life. Just a shrug of the shoulders and all good. Blow me.
WSS
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You really don't have to go down the playing stupid path every time and pretend you don't know what I'm talking about. If alleging sexual misconduct is not that big a deal to you even if it has extreme negative effects on a man's life then I think your position is fuked up. I gave you the example of a black man being accused of rape or something similar by a woman who is an outspoken racist and he loses his job and or does jail time. You wouldn't think she should be prosecuted for that? But it's okay if the accused is a white male?
WSS
Holy Shmuck Steve I give up. I can't be any clearer. I'm not doing this game where you put words in my mouth and I have to go defend myself. If you don't follow, or choose not to follow, I give up
Holy Shmuck Steve I give up. I can't be any clearer. I'm not doing this game where you put words in my mouth and I have to go defend myself. If you don't follow, or choose not to follow, I give up
you aren't holy, but you ARE a shmuck birdbrain, woodypeckerhead. all you do is play your sick little games.
We need an ornithologist on this board.
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I would hope so. Nobody hated Kavanaugh until a week ago. I mean of course the Democrats and some of the members here will hate anybody Trump puts up but that's not the point.
Given the fact that the FBI won't prove or disprove much of anything and limited scope and time. I have absolutely no doubt that at the end of the week they will be outraged because they weren't allowed to probe this or that or didn't have enough time or some BS.
WSS
Of course, but they will no longer have enouhh public support to delay or block his confirmation.
Of course, but they will no longer have enouhh public support to delay or block his confirmation.
By the way another thing I expect from this week of so-called investigation is that there'll be a few more crackpots come out of the woodwork especially since Stormy Daniels Law Firm is involved.
By the way to whoever said that a classic sign PTSD is not remembering what really happened, that should make a suffer a terrible Witness. Another thing that causes huge gaps in memory like where you were when you were how you got there and how you got back is lying about the one beer you had.
WSS
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