chubb needs to move to the 1 spot for at least a week or two...
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we establish a run game like we should have, teams can't pin their ears back and hunt Mayfield. Make sense?
we establish a run game like we should have, teams can't pin their ears back and hunt Mayfield. Make sense?
We ran 74 plays... 42% (31 plays) were rushes for a total of 208 yards.
How much more of a run game did we need to establish one?
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we establish a run game like we should have, teams can't pin their ears back and hunt Mayfield. Make sense?
We ran 74 plays... 42% (31 plays) were rushes for a total of 208 yards.
How much more of a run game did we need to establish one?
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we establish a run game like we should have, teams can't pin their ears back and hunt Mayfield. Make sense?
We ran 74 plays... 42% (31 plays) were rushes for a total of 208 yards.
How much more of a run game did we need to establish one?
We ran 74 plays... 42% (31 plays) were rushes for a total of 208 yards.
How much more of a run game did we need to establish one?
no I wasn't unhappy with todays rushing attempts....it needs to keep up tho. Haley's tendencies so far are to go away from it too early when it doesn't click right away. 31 rushing attempts is right proper in my book. But to keep that up we need to involve Chubb more so Hyde doesn't wear down. It's actually a potentially amazing situation to have those two interchangeable as the workhorse to go along with Duke.
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Why is a rookie RB blocking on a punt?
Another horrible coaching decision by the worst coach in NFL history
I think I've seen you blame Hue for something and then call him the worst coach ever in at least a dozen post game threads so far.
I think I've seen you blame Hue for something and then call him the worst coach ever in at least a dozen post game threads so far.
When the shoe fits
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Why is a rookie RB blocking on a punt?
Another horrible coaching decision by the worst coach in NFL history
I think I've seen you blame Hue for something and then call him the worst coach ever in at least a dozen post game threads so far.
I think I've seen you blame Hue for something and then call him the worst coach ever in at least a dozen post game threads so far.
I've been on this board for a little over a year, so fairly recently someone bumped an old thread... Out of curiosity, I started reading through it just to see who I recognized, etc...
And on this thread was Browns149, and literally all he said was: "Shurmur is the worst coach ever. He needs fired."
Apparently bitching about the head coach is all the guy does.
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Yes Chubb has some very serious pass protect issues and needs to learn that role of his position. But I still would have loved to have seen him on that 3rd down run that got reversed late in the game. Hyde is kind of dancing in the backfield a bit. Would like to see him hit the hole harder and run downhill quicker. How do you not utilize a guy that had two runs for TD's for avg of 35 yards?
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Do you guys know why he's not being used all that much?
Because the dude has no idea what he is doing regarding his blocking responsibilities. He's gotten a punt blocked because he literally let someone run right past him, and he nearly got Taylor killed because he couldn't figure out a badly-disguised blitz.
Do you guys know why he's not being used all that much?
Because the dude has no idea what he is doing regarding his blocking responsibilities. He's gotten a punt blocked because he literally let someone run right past him, and he nearly got Taylor killed because he couldn't figure out a badly-disguised blitz.
No one that knows football has a problem with Hyde starting, he is playing well.
Exciting to have Chubb as the fresh legs though ... 14.6 Yards per carry isn't bad.
Zombo
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we establish a run game like we should have, teams can't pin their ears back and hunt Mayfield. Make sense?
We ran 74 plays... 42% (31 plays) were rushes for a total of 208 yards.
How much more of a run game did we need to establish one?
We ran 74 plays... 42% (31 plays) were rushes for a total of 208 yards.
How much more of a run game did we need to establish one?
For me it isn't so much of the volume on the runs, but the timing. Again I can't get passed being up 2 scores with a chance to start wearing out a front 7 and Haley opens with a 5 step drop in our own 12.
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He has a bit fresher legs. Let him be the workhorse for a few weeks and let carlos get a couple relief innings in per week.
We're not running enough. We need to avg around 30 carries a week. The 1 should get 15-18 of those and the rest of the carrys split between the #2 and duke.
He has a bit fresher legs. Let him be the workhorse for a few weeks and let carlos get a couple relief innings in per week.
We're not running enough. We need to avg around 30 carries a week. The 1 should get 15-18 of those and the rest of the carrys split between the #2 and duke.
no I wasn't unhappy with todays rushing attempts....it needs to keep up tho. Haley's tendencies so far are to go away from it too early when it doesn't click right away. 31 rushing attempts is right proper in my book. But to keep that up we need to involve Chubb more so Hyde doesn't wear down. It's actually a potentially amazing situation to have those two interchangeable as the workhorse to go along with Duke.
I'm confused...are we running enough or Nah? I see no reason for Chubb to be the starter over Hyde...yet... I'm not sure if this is the first game you've seen Chubb run in or not but spoiler alert....he doesn't get 30 yd TD's every time he carries.
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He has a bit fresher legs. Let him be the workhorse for a few weeks and let carlos get a couple relief innings in per week.
We're not running enough. We need to avg around 30 carries a week. The 1 should get 15-18 of those and the rest of the carrys split between the #2 and duke.
no I wasn't unhappy with todays rushing attempts....it needs to keep up tho. Haley's tendencies so far are to go away from it too early when it doesn't click right away. 31 rushing attempts is right proper in my book. But to keep that up we need to involve Chubb more so Hyde doesn't wear down. It's actually a potentially amazing situation to have those two interchangeable as the workhorse to go along with Duke.
I'm confused...are we running enough or Nah? I see no reason for Chubb to be the starter over Hyde...yet... I'm not sure if this is the first game you've seen Chubb run in or not but spoiler alert....he doesn't get 30 yd TD's every time he carries.
I'm confused...are we running enough or Nah? I see no reason for Chubb to be the starter over Hyde...yet... I'm not sure if this is the first game you've seen Chubb run in or not but spoiler alert....he doesn't get 30 yd TD's every time he carries.
yes "today" we ran enough. And thank u for reminding me no RB ever has avg'd 35 ypc. I pretty clearly stated i still overall prefer hyde but noticing his burst is dropping off. He can still grind out tough yards, that ability stays around after the loss of acceleration.
my point is give chubb the lionshare of the runs for a week or two till his legs drop a bit. Rinse, repeat.
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I think I've seen you blame Hue for something and then call him the worst coach ever in at least a dozen post game threads so far.
I've been on this board for a little over a year, so fairly recently someone bumped an old thread... Out of curiosity, I started reading through it just to see who I recognized, etc...
And on this thread was Browns149, and literally all he said was: "Shurmur is the worst coach ever. He needs fired."
Apparently bitching about the head coach is all the guy does.
I've been on this board for a little over a year, so fairly recently someone bumped an old thread... Out of curiosity, I started reading through it just to see who I recognized, etc...
And on this thread was Browns149, and literally all he said was: "Shurmur is the worst coach ever. He needs fired."
Apparently bitching about the head coach is all the guy does.
it is nonstop with some of these guys.
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Do you guys know why he's not being used all that much?
Because the dude has no idea what he is doing regarding his blocking responsibilities. He's gotten a punt blocked because he literally let someone run right past him, and he nearly got Taylor killed because he couldn't figure out a badly-disguised blitz.
Do you guys know why he's not being used all that much?
Because the dude has no idea what he is doing regarding his blocking responsibilities. He's gotten a punt blocked because he literally let someone run right past him, and he nearly got Taylor killed because he couldn't figure out a badly-disguised blitz.
he will learn as his career moves on.....watched him alot down here in atlanta....he is good...i don't think he is gurley...but i think when he learns the game he will be way better than hyde...did you see that move he made on his second td run...hyde can't do that even in his dreams...i think we should be excited and positive with this kid......i do like hyde to...they are both better than what we had....sheeeeeesh, friggin crowell....ugh....
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Do you guys know why he's not being used all that much?
Because the dude has no idea what he is doing regarding his blocking responsibilities. He's gotten a punt blocked because he literally let someone run right past him, and he nearly got Taylor killed because he couldn't figure out a badly-disguised blitz.
he will learn as his career moves on.....watched him alot down here in atlanta....he is good...i don't think he is gurley...but i think when he learns the game he will be way better than hyde...did you see that move he made on his second td run...hyde can't do that even in his dreams...i think we should be excited and positive with this kid......i do like hyde to...they are both better than what we had....sheeeeeesh, friggin crowell....ugh....
he will learn as his career moves on.....watched him alot down here in atlanta....he is good...i don't think he is gurley...but i think when he learns the game he will be way better than hyde...did you see that move he made on his second td run...hyde can't do that even in his dreams...i think we should be excited and positive with this kid......i do like hyde to...they are both better than what we had....sheeeeeesh, friggin crowell....ugh....
Isaiah Crowell ran for over 3000 yards and had a 4.3 yard average per carry in 4 seasons with the Browns.
He didn't suck, regardless of what some of you keep saying. (Not you specifically brown52)
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Do you guys know why he's not being used all that much?
Because the dude has no idea what he is doing regarding his blocking responsibilities. He's gotten a punt blocked because he literally let someone run right past him, and he nearly got Taylor killed because he couldn't figure out a badly-disguised blitz.
Do you guys know why he's not being used all that much?
Because the dude has no idea what he is doing regarding his blocking responsibilities. He's gotten a punt blocked because he literally let someone run right past him, and he nearly got Taylor killed because he couldn't figure out a badly-disguised blitz.
I think you pretty much covered it. Blocking assignments are generally where many rookie RBs struggle, and it's obvious with Chubb. We're not about to let our rookie QB get killed.
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Do you guys know why he's not being used all that much?
Because the dude has no idea what he is doing regarding his blocking responsibilities. He's gotten a punt blocked because he literally let someone run right past him, and he nearly got Taylor killed because he couldn't figure out a badly-disguised blitz.
I think you pretty much covered it. Blocking assignments are generally where many rookie RBs struggle, and it's obvious with Chubb. We're not about to let our rookie QB get killed.
I think you pretty much covered it. Blocking assignments are generally where many rookie RBs struggle, and it's obvious with Chubb. We're not about to let our rookie QB get killed.
I mentioned it earlier in this thread. How about play action or a quick swing pass? Can he catch? Chubby doesn't have to block on EVERY play he's in the game.
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I think you pretty much covered it. Blocking assignments are generally where many rookie RBs struggle, and it's obvious with Chubb. We're not about to let our rookie QB get killed.
I mentioned it earlier in this thread. How about play action or a quick swing pass? Can he catch? Chubby doesn't have to block on EVERY play he's in the game.
I mentioned it earlier in this thread. How about play action or a quick swing pass? Can he catch? Chubby doesn't have to block on EVERY play he's in the game.
He wasn't known for his catching abilities out of college, I think Sony Michelle got most of those opportunities. However, I read multiple times that he looked very good catching the ball in training camp, so I'm with you. Let him catch and run.
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Why change something if its working?
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we establish a run game like we should have, teams can't pin their ears back and hunt Mayfield. Make sense?
We ran 74 plays... 42% (31 plays) were rushes for a total of 208 yards.
How much more of a run game did we need to establish one?
We ran 74 plays... 42% (31 plays) were rushes for a total of 208 yards.
How much more of a run game did we need to establish one?
More than 42%
We threw on first down out of shotgun up 28-14 against Oakland.. Imo, maybe trying to pound the rock and throw on third down would have been the route to go.. with a rookie QB playing on the road in his first NFL start.
Of course still try and establish a nice drive and get some more points, but why not try and establish the run up 14 in the 3rd quarter? It’s what the teams who have beaten us do. Maybe set up play action as the defense becomes desperate to make a stop...
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I agree but situations like a rookie in first start on road call for running the damn ball with a cushy lead
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