How do you help the homeless?
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So we are assuming that there is a way to help homeless people? Consider the fact that we think anybody that doesn't have the same idea of materialistic needs as we do is crazy.
Bums, hobos, beggars you name it have been a part of society all around the world forever. Hell when we were kids we used to dress up like bums on Halloween.
WSS
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so instead of help, is it how do you manage the homeless?
ethically do we have a moral obligation to help those in need?
what has history taught us concerning this issue? or has it always been a fruitless struggle with those on the take and those with serious mental issues?
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Homeless should be rounded up and put in camps. These camps will not be a 'prison' but a 're-education/rehabilitation institution. They cannot leave, they must stay until it is complete. It will consist of drug/alcohol rehabilitation, mental health treatment and job training. If you successfully complete it, you will be released and must find work and housing within 1 month or you will be jailed for rehabilitation failure.
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My line of questioning? You're practically speaking in absolutes. I'm just wondering if you have any data, anything more than your opinion.
But ending with "rarely do you actually give those" makes me not really want to respond at all.
But ending with "rarely do you actually give those" makes me not really want to respond at all.
Ok
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So we are assuming that there is a way to help homeless people? Consider the fact that we think anybody that doesn't have the same idea of materialistic needs as we do is crazy.
Bums, hobos, beggars you name it have been a part of society all around the world forever. Hell when we were kids we used to dress up like bums on Halloween.
WSS
Hell when we were kids we used to dress up like bums on Halloween.
WSS
According to my wife I've been dressing that way every day since retirement. I told her for cremation I wanted shorts and a T-shirt.?
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I think you have to try to distinguish between those who want a hand up and those who want a handout. Those who are helped who just need a hand up will reap good benefits while trying to help those who want a hand out will just be wasted like water being poured on a sand pile.
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I think you have to try to distinguish between those who want a hand up and those who want a handout. Those who are helped who just need a hand up will reap good benefits while trying to help those who want a hand out will just be wasted like water being poured on a sand pile.
I think you have to try to distinguish between those who want a hand up and those who want a handout. Those who are helped who just need a hand up will reap good benefits while trying to help those who want a hand out will just be wasted like water being poured on a sand pile.
There's a third type, people who just live that way and want to be left alone. Right now Akron city council is screwing around with legislation 2 expand or eliminate a hobo jungle, or Tent City within the city limits. Just because we couldn't possibly imagine living under those conditions doesn't mean others feel the same.
WSS
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I think you have to try to distinguish between those who want a hand up and those who want a handout. Those who are helped who just need a hand up will reap good benefits while trying to help those who want a hand out will just be wasted like water being poured on a sand pile.
There's a third type, people who just live that way and want to be left alone. Right now Akron city council is screwing around with legislation 2 expand or eliminate a hobo jungle, or Tent City within the city limits. Just because we couldn't possibly imagine living under those conditions doesn't mean others feel the same.
WSS
There's a third type, people who just live that way and want to be left alone. Right now Akron city council is screwing around with legislation 2 expand or eliminate a hobo jungle, or Tent City within the city limits. Just because we couldn't possibly imagine living under those conditions doesn't mean others feel the same.
WSS
that's sound like living off the grid...surely we could accomadate those folks with airfare or a bustrip to some secluded habitat?
guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do. -
There's a third type, people who just live that way and want to be left alone. Right now Akron city council is screwing around with legislation 2 expand or eliminate a hobo jungle, or Tent City within the city limits. Just because we couldn't possibly imagine living under those conditions doesn't mean others feel the same.
WSS
that's sound like living off the grid...surely we could accomadate those folks with airfare or a bustrip to some secluded habitat?
that's sound like living off the grid...surely we could accomadate those folks with airfare or a bustrip to some secluded habitat?
Off the Grid isn't necessarily out in the wilderness. There's an entire life cycle within the cities.
WSS
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affordable housing....
what exactly is affordable housing? if folks think that is the solution then what about the mentally ill or folks who just don't want help?
doesn't sound like there is a universal solution....or is there?
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I don't get the homeless - I've read where there are those who have mental illnesses and just hide from society out of fear,
and others who just don't have anywhere to live.
no job, no social relationships to make a life with...
probably all sorts of reasons. The worst is, I guess, inferiority to a depression degree - a lot of dem commies love to FEEL
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I don't know. Send em to Mexico - they are sending theirs here, apparently.
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Thought I’d bring this up again seeing how LA is about to become toxic with typhoid etc.
San Fran is in need of few thousand Porta Johns
and Seattle along with the rest are becoming a wasteland of hypodermic needles and trash.
Why is it no one wants to tackle this problem? I do like the idea on detainment camps where they can detox the majority of the and attempt to insert them back into society if possible.
Can we still send convicts and homeless to the Land down Under? Lol
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There's a third type, people who just live that way and want to be left alone. Right now Akron city council is screwing around with legislation 2 expand or eliminate a hobo jungle, or Tent City within the city limits. Just because we couldn't possibly imagine living under those conditions doesn't mean others feel the same.
WSS
that's sound like living off the grid...surely we could accomadate those folks with airfare or a bustrip to some secluded habitat?
that's sound like living off the grid...surely we could accomadate those folks with airfare or a bustrip to some secluded habitat?
Maybe Mexico?
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Homelessness in most, not all, cases is a choice. In some rare cases it may be a better choice than the alternative, but again it's rare. 90% of the time, in my estimation, it comes down to drugs, mental issues, or both.
There are 3 homeless guys that run the area around my job. As in they will run other homeless guys out of their territory. One of them is a tiny crossdressing black guy that every morning strips down to his underwear and practices his dance moves through the reflection in the window, in front of an empty office space across the parking lot. The cops stopped getting him dressed everyday awhile ago, so it's a routine now. There is no amount of money or pills or therapy that will ever get him in a sustainable mode of normalcy. So I'm inclined to say nothing is going to solve homelessness.
Therapy seems like it may help some, but certainly won't be a cure by any means. As simple as it sounds, you just have to not want to be homeless. I know it sounds ridiculous, but it's really true. How much does it cost to rent a room these days? $300-$500 A month? Even the lamest job could get you that. Panhandling could get you that.
The real question is do these people value a home the same as you and I do? I don't think so.
Homelessness in most, not all, cases is a choice. In some rare cases it may be a better choice than the alternative, but again it's rare. 90% of the time, in my estimation, it comes down to drugs, mental issues, or both.
There are 3 homeless guys that run the area around my job. As in they will run other homeless guys out of their territory. One of them is a tiny crossdressing black guy that every morning strips down to his underwear and practices his dance moves through the reflection in the window, in front of an empty office space across the parking lot. The cops stopped getting him dressed everyday awhile ago, so it's a routine now. There is no amount of money or pills or therapy that will ever get him in a sustainable mode of normalcy. So I'm inclined to say nothing is going to solve homelessness.
Therapy seems like it may help some, but certainly won't be a cure by any means. As simple as it sounds, you just have to not want to be homeless. I know it sounds ridiculous, but it's really true. How much does it cost to rent a room these days? $300-$500 A month? Even the lamest job could get you that. Panhandling could get you that.
The real question is do these people value a home the same as you and I do? I don't think so.
UPDATE
Found the little crossdressing hobo a place to stay for the next 6 months to 2 years. Even got him a ride there.
He decided to break into my jeep and steal my pistol right in front of the security cameras today. Cops probably wouldn't have done anything about it if he would have concealed the gun before exiting the vehicle. Tisk, tisk.
I wish he would have just unzipped the soft top, instead of popping my window with a screwdriver, but then it probably would have been a while before I realized anything was missing.
I should be mad as hell, but all those forced relationships he's about to be in just make me smile a little. I'm sure he's excited too. I don't even feel like making an insurance claim, I'll just eat this one for the memories.
Hope the cops give me my gun back, it's really my only concern at this point.
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Racist
smh...
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