Fire Hue now!
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Hue is so f'cking soft on players he makes Romeo look like a Mangini-esque dictator in comparison. Tired of this guy and at least Haley or William's in the interim will win some games. I have zero faith Hue is capable of winning another game.
Yeah.. I'm sick of the way he baby's and coddles players.. The penalties are a direct result of not holding players accountable for they're mistakes...
Yeah.. I'm sick of the way he baby's and coddles players.. The penalties are a direct result of not holding players accountable for they're mistakes...
nickers, it goes beyond the players....i agree with you on the player accountability part, but no one talks about the assistant coaches...the dl, ol lb coaches....good lord, this really falls on them to....need to talk about that more...and hue...is he even aware of what is going on with anything...
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you can count on another loss at pitt next week......we will see....hue could be gone....i think he deserves to be fired....the reason is the penalties...they are sooooo undisciplined...and dat is on hue.......he needs to be gone...he gave it the all american try but failed.....his big resume point was that he led the raiders to an 8-8 season.....so we hired him.....errrrrrrr yikes.....bye bye...
how many times on 3rd down did we give them a first via penality
how many times on 3rd down did we give them a first via penality
Gregg Williams’ defense started out the year red hot. The past two games, however, it has fallen apart at the seams.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers were able to move the ball at will at home against the Cleveland Browns in their overtime win. They gained 456 yards, converted half of their third- and fourth-down attempts and racked up 34 total first downs in the game.
Because Cleveland’s defense couldn’t stop this attack, the Bucs ended up running 26 more offensive plays than the Browns — wasting a pretty good game from rookie Baker Mayfield.
Silver lining: Cleveland did force Jameis Winston into three turnovers — and four total in this game. So, that continues to be a huge strength of this defense.
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Firing Hue now would make little sense. The team has been competitive in every game except the Chargers.
Firing Hue now would make little sense. The team has been competitive in every game except the Chargers.
It makes sense to do it at some point this season because you have a former HC in Haley (who Dorsey hired) standing there on the sidelines. Give him the team for a 4 or 5 week trial and see how it goes and see if things improve with a new guy in charge. If it doesnt, they clean house and bring in an all new staff for next season. If that's what happens, it's on Haslam and Dorsey to find the next Sean McVay to work with our new young QB and offense and get things going like the Rams did.
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Not only was Mangini is shitty head coach whose players absolutely loathed him, he was a rat.
I hated Mangina.. He alienated everyone on the team...
I hated Mangina.. He alienated everyone on the team...
he also brought over like 5 of the worse players in the nfl from the jets....man did those guys stink....barton...stucky...etc....they were terrible....and dumbgini brought them over with his dumbass...
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We need the next Marty Schottenheimer. Someone who brought toughness and discipline to this team. But who could that be I don’t think it is either Haley or Williams.
Completely agree. Some think that being tough is equal to being mean which seems rather silly. My new motto for the Browns
can Hue, Dorsey can do
Completely agree. Some think that being tough is equal to being mean which seems rather silly. My new motto for the Browns
can Hue, Dorsey can do
the only problem is where is the next shotenheimer.....at this point in the season i don't know if you find one...this may have to be a wait til the end of this season issue....but i agree, hue is not a hc...he will probabaly hook on with another team as a qb coach or something.....
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Firing Hue now would make little sense. The team has been competitive in every game except the Chargers.
It makes sense to do it at some point this season because you have a former HC in Haley (who Dorsey hired) standing there on the sidelines. Give him the team for a 4 or 5 week trial and see how it goes and see if things improve with a new guy in charge. If it doesnt, they clean house and bring in an all new staff for next season. If that's what happens, it's on Haslam and Dorsey to find the next Sean McVay to work with our new young QB and offense and get things going like the Rams did.
It makes sense to do it at some point this season because you have a former HC in Haley (who Dorsey hired) standing there on the sidelines. Give him the team for a 4 or 5 week trial and see how it goes and see if things improve with a new guy in charge. If it doesnt, they clean house and bring in an all new staff for next season. If that's what happens, it's on Haslam and Dorsey to find the next Sean McVay to work with our new young QB and offense and get things going like the Rams did.
Might as well. Wiki lists the dork as the worst HC in NFL history. I mean..... what are we gonna do? Lose?
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Firing Hue now would make little sense. The team has been competitive in every game except the Chargers.
It makes sense to do it at some point this season because you have a former HC in Haley (who Dorsey hired) standing there on the sidelines. Give him the team for a 4 or 5 week trial and see how it goes and see if things improve with a new guy in charge. If it doesnt, they clean house and bring in an all new staff for next season. If that's what happens, it's on Haslam and Dorsey to find the next Sean McVay to work with our new young QB and offense and get things going like the Rams did.
It makes sense to do it at some point this season because you have a former HC in Haley (who Dorsey hired) standing there on the sidelines. Give him the team for a 4 or 5 week trial and see how it goes and see if things improve with a new guy in charge. If it doesnt, they clean house and bring in an all new staff for next season. If that's what happens, it's on Haslam and Dorsey to find the next Sean McVay to work with our new young QB and offense and get things going like the Rams did.
Gregg Williams is also a former HC with the Buffalo Bills.
To all the guys that want Hue fired. HOLD ON A SECOND... Okay, that second is over.
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At this point just let Hue ride out the season and show him the door if he doesn’t manage at least 8-7-1.
Leaning on an interim coach like Haley or Williams won’t add any wins to the record.
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Hugh got one monster sized head.
Hugh got one monster sized head.
And he really DOES look like a Black Uncle Fester. Amazingly enough.
So, Kudos to whomever came up with that. (was that Ghoolie?)
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At this point just let Hue ride out the season and show him the door if he doesn’t manage at least 8-7-1.
Leaning on an interim coach like Haley or Williams won’t add any wins to the record.
At this point just let Hue ride out the season and show him the door if he doesn’t manage at least 8-7-1.
Leaning on an interim coach like Haley or Williams won’t add any wins to the record.
Again...the only reason to can him now or in the next week or so is so that you can see if Haley or Williams is the guy to be the next HC.
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At this point just let Hue ride out the season and show him the door if he doesn’t manage at least 8-7-1.
Leaning on an interim coach like Haley or Williams won’t add any wins to the record.
At this point just let Hue ride out the season and show him the door if he doesn’t manage at least 8-7-1.
Leaning on an interim coach like Haley or Williams won’t add any wins to the record.
If he were like 6- 9-1.....would that be acceptable for him to stay on?
To me, it would be minimal.....and ONLY subject to consideration because of being 0-16 last year.
I mean, with 6 wins, the Browns would likely be the most improved team in the league. but, if they only win 3-4 games....that is unacceptable, imo.
And I would say: Vaya Con Dios, Bandejo. (or is it Pandejo?)
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my bad i was thinking of davis
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At this point just let Hue ride out the season and show him the door if he doesn’t manage at least 8-7-1.
Leaning on an interim coach like Haley or Williams won’t add any wins to the record.
If he were like 6- 9-1.....would that be acceptable for him to stay on?
To me, it would be minimal.....and ONLY subject to consideration because of being 0-16 last year.
I mean, with 6 wins, the Browns would likely be the most improved team in the league. but, if they only win 3-4 games....that is unacceptable, imo.
And I would say: Vaya Con Dios, Bandejo. (or is it Pandejo?)
If he were like 6- 9-1.....would that be acceptable for him to stay on?
To me, it would be minimal.....and ONLY subject to consideration because of being 0-16 last year.
I mean, with 6 wins, the Browns would likely be the most improved team in the league. but, if they only win 3-4 games....that is unacceptable, imo.
And I would say: Vaya Con Dios, Bandejo. (or is it Pandejo?)
I suppose 6-9-1 would be almost .500 from here on out. It wouldn’t surprise me if Haslam kept Hue with that record, but Hue’s molten lava seat will only get hotter if the browns don’t go .500ish for the remainder of the schedule.
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how many times on 3rd down did we give them a first via penality
Gregg Williams’ defense started out the year red hot. The past two games, however, it has fallen apart at the seams.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers were able to move the ball at will at home against the Cleveland Browns in their overtime win. They gained 456 yards, converted half of their third- and fourth-down attempts and racked up 34 total first downs in the game.
Because Cleveland’s defense couldn’t stop this attack, the Bucs ended up running 26 more offensive plays than the Browns — wasting a pretty good game from rookie Baker Mayfield.
Silver lining: Cleveland did force Jameis Winston into three turnovers — and four total in this game. So, that continues to be a huge strength of this defense.
Gregg Williams’ defense started out the year red hot. The past two games, however, it has fallen apart at the seams.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers were able to move the ball at will at home against the Cleveland Browns in their overtime win. They gained 456 yards, converted half of their third- and fourth-down attempts and racked up 34 total first downs in the game.
Because Cleveland’s defense couldn’t stop this attack, the Bucs ended up running 26 more offensive plays than the Browns — wasting a pretty good game from rookie Baker Mayfield.
Silver lining: Cleveland did force Jameis Winston into three turnovers — and four total in this game. So, that continues to be a huge strength of this defense.
The problem is, too many injuries in the secondary. Winston had guys running wide open all day.
And what did we do with those turnovers? Nothing. Because we're beat up at wr too.
My game report:
Baker needs to: 1) know when to throw it away, that sack in ot was a potential game winning fg that didn't happen. 2) stop looking for Landry as a crutch first, when other guys are wide open.
Note to Haley- what was that continual dump off crap on third and ten, five yards short of the sticks?
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Hugh got one monster sized head.
And he really DOES look like a Black Uncle Fester. Amazingly enough.
So, Kudos to whomever came up with that. (was that Ghoolie?)
And he really DOES look like a Black Uncle Fester. Amazingly enough.
So, Kudos to whomever came up with that. (was that Ghoolie?)
Correctomundo!
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We need the next Marty Schottenheimer. Someone who brought toughness and discipline to this team. But who could that be I don’t think it is either Haley or Williams.
Completely agree. Some think that being tough is equal to being mean which seems rather silly. My new motto for the Browns
can Hue, Dorsey can do
Completely agree. Some think that being tough is equal to being mean which seems rather silly. My new motto for the Browns
can Hue, Dorsey can do
Tony Dungy and Andy Reid are both evidence you can be tough on players without being an unbearable jerkoff. Hue is just more concerned with being everyone's best buddy on the team.
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Gregg Williams’ defense started out the year red hot. The past two games, however, it has fallen apart at the seams.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers were able to move the ball at will at home against the Cleveland Browns in their overtime win. They gained 456 yards, converted half of their third- and fourth-down attempts and racked up 34 total first downs in the game.
Because Cleveland’s defense couldn’t stop this attack, the Bucs ended up running 26 more offensive plays than the Browns — wasting a pretty good game from rookie Baker Mayfield.
Silver lining: Cleveland did force Jameis Winston into three turnovers — and four total in this game. So, that continues to be a huge strength of this defense.
The problem is, too many injuries in the secondary. Winston had guys running wide open all day.
And what did we do with those turnovers? Nothing. Because we're beat up at wr too.
My game report:
Baker needs to: 1) know when to throw it away, that sack in ot was a potential game winning fg that didn't happen. 2) stop looking for Landry as a crutch first, when other guys are wide open.
Note to Haley- what was that continual dump off crap on third and ten, five yards short of the sticks?
My game report:
Baker needs to: 1) know when to throw it away, that sack in ot was a potential game winning fg that didn't happen. 2) stop looking for Landry as a crutch first, when other guys are wide open.
Landry is a primary read and the most reliable hands on offense, Baker went 23-34 and looked very good. He did not have the cleanest pocket to throw from all game long.
He’s got some work to do but man, it’s nice to watch franchise QB material
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My game report:
Baker needs to: 1) know when to throw it away, that sack in ot was a potential game winning fg that didn't happen. 2) stop looking for Landry as a crutch first, when other guys are wide open.
Landry is a primary read and the most reliable hands on offense, Baker went 23-34 and looked very good. He did not have the cleanest pocket to throw from all game long.
He’s got some work to do but man, it’s nice to watch franchise QB material
He’s got some work to do but man, it’s nice to watch franchise QB material
For a half (plus an OT) anyway...
Baker looked very ordinary for six quarters before Sunday's 2nd half... then "the fire" returned.
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He’s got some work to do but man, it’s nice to watch franchise QB material
For a half (plus an OT) anyway...
Baker looked very ordinary for six quarters before Sunday's 2nd half... then "the fire" returned.
For a half (plus an OT) anyway...
Baker looked very ordinary for six quarters before Sunday's 2nd half... then "the fire" returned.
Yea that’s true, I was there, and it seemed as if Tyrod was coming out for second half(getting warmed up).
I would imagine the coaches told baker he was on a short leash, because he was LIGHTS OUT after half time.
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At this point just let Hue ride out the season and show him the door if he doesn’t manage at least 8-7-1.
Leaning on an interim coach like Haley or Williams won’t add any wins to the record.
If he were like 6- 9-1.....would that be acceptable for him to stay on?
To me, it would be minimal.....and ONLY subject to consideration because of being 0-16 last year.
I mean, with 6 wins, the Browns would likely be the most improved team in the league. but, if they only win 3-4 games....that is unacceptable, imo.
And I would say: Vaya Con Dios, Bandejo. (or is it Pandejo?)
If he were like 6- 9-1.....would that be acceptable for him to stay on?
To me, it would be minimal.....and ONLY subject to consideration because of being 0-16 last year.
I mean, with 6 wins, the Browns would likely be the most improved team in the league. but, if they only win 3-4 games....that is unacceptable, imo.
And I would say: Vaya Con Dios, Bandejo. (or is it Pandejo?)
it would be ok if they clean up their act....i'm sick of watching them lose due to lack of discipline with all these facking penalties...this should have been cleaned up during preseason.....i don't like losing period...who does.....but the way they lose is just totally unacceptable...
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