The official Terry Pluto thread
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Zombo said:
Calhoun ---> You get Chris Goodwin, no slouch
Seeing quite a few of his games at Penn State, I came away impressed with this kid and was hoping the Browns would have drafted him. He seemed to make a lot of big plays for their QB downfield at Complicit Valley.
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Halftime notes
https://articles.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2018/10/cleveland_browns_halftime_scri_58.amp
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Halftime notes
https://articles.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2018/10/cleveland_browns_halftime_scri_58.amp
she's got a pretty mouth
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Todays column, can Hue fix the offense.
https://articles.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2018/10/cleveland_browns_can_hue_jacks_1.amp
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Todays column, can Hue fix the offense.
https://articles.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2018/10/cleveland_browns_can_hue_jacks_1.amp
WSS
Todays column, can Hue fix the offense.
https://articles.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2018/10/cleveland_browns_can_hue_jacks_1.amp
WSS
I don't have to read this article to answer your question: HELL NO!!!
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Halftime notes
https://articles.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2018/10/cleveland_browns_halftime_scri_58.amp
Reads like an intelligent version of the comments in our gameday threads...
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Todays column, can Hue fix the offense.
https://articles.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2018/10/cleveland_browns_can_hue_jacks_1.amp
WSS
Todays column, can Hue fix the offense.
https://articles.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2018/10/cleveland_browns_can_hue_jacks_1.amp
What could go wrong?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Todays column, can Hue fix the offense.
https://articles.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2018/10/cleveland_browns_can_hue_jacks_1.amp
What could go wrong?
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Todays column, can Hue fix the offense.
https://articles.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2018/10/cleveland_browns_can_hue_jacks_1.amp
What could go wrong?
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Kessler?
Could be starting for the Jags this Sunday.
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October 26
Squeelers
https://articles.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2018/10/cleveland_browns_the_biggest_g.amp
Yeah and I want to own an oil well in Texas..................................oh wait...............................I do have a very small royalty from a very partially inherited producing well. It's such a small part I call it "itsy bitsy tiny titsy Little Reata oil well". ?
Hue's gonna win Baby!!?
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The Pluto Cliff notes version:
Amari: 17. The trading deadline is Oct. 30 at 4 p.m. I expect the Browns to try hard to do something. While eyes are on big name receivers, perhaps the Browns have an eye on someone else. As one executive told me, Oakland's price for Cooper is "ridiculous," but a lot can change by Oct. 30.
Dez (again) 7. Once in a while, you hear the old "Dez Bryant to the Browns" rumors coming back. I was told it's not going to happen. The Browns aren't the only team to decide Bryant is not worth bringing in once the season opened. Clearly, Bryant and his people have rubbed several NFL teams the wrong way. It's why he still is a free agent.
Josh: Gordon is in a great spot with the Patriots, where he will have to do things the right way or he will be gone. That should keep his attention.
BROWNS: 7. The downside on special teams began with Denzel Rice lining up in an illegal formation on the opening kickoff. Not sure I've seen that penalty on the first play of the game before. They also gave up a 32-yard punt return. Peppers fumbled a punt but recovered it. So it wasn't close to perfect, but there really was progress.
8. It's mind-numbing to keep writing Duke Johnson should get the ball more, especially in the passing game. But Duke Johnson SHOULD be targeted with more passes. He caught 4-of-5 balls last week, averaging 18.3 yards per reception.With the trade of Carlos Hyde to Jacksonville, that also set up Johnson to carry the ball more.
Carry on Terry.
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https://articles.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2018/10/cleveland_browns_postgame_scri_30.amp
A new one
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https://articles.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2018/10/cleveland_browns_a_fifth-round.amp
Today
WSS
On Hyde:
Q: A fifth round pick? That's it?
A: I received an email from a fan who recalled when Joe Banner traded Trent Richardson to the Colts for a first-round pick . That was two games into the 2013 season. The Colts were desperate for running backs. They had Super Bowl aspirations. Richardson was only in his second pro season. Some NFL people still considered him a future star. That trade became one of the reasons the Colts eventually fired some of the people in their front office.
.......Q: I repeat, a fifth-round pick?
A: The Giants just traded Eli Apple (No. 10 pick in 2016) to New Orleans for picks in the fourth and seventh rounds. Running backs don't have big trade value -- the Richardson disaster impacted that thinking. Hyde was going to be gone after the season to make room for Chubb.
Q: Now the Browns don't have much depth at running back, right?
A: The Browns are approaching one of their goals, which is to be competitive in nearly every game this season and win some of them. But they are still building a team. ........
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https://articles.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2018/10/cleveland_browns_postgame_scri_30.amp
A new one
7. Mayfield is a rookie quarterback seeing something painfully new nearly every game. Mayfield didn't play in the opener, a 21-21 tie with the Steelers. Tyrod Taylor was the starter. Mayfield never has played so many games against so many quick, talented defenses.
13. I know that scouts from the Baltimore Ravens and Kansas City were at this game. No doubt, there were others. A big part of their job is looking for weaknesses and tendencies in Mayfield.
14. In 2016, Jared Goff was a rookie. He lost all seven of his starts. He looked completely overmatched. In 2017, he became a good quarterback. Now in his third season, the former No. 1 draft pick is an elite quarterback. Browns fans hate to hear this, but it takes time with rookie quarterbacks before you know what they can do in the NFL.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
mjp....Like it or not BROWNS fans Mayfield is a rookie, two or three more wins would be......incredible.
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https://articles.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2018/10/cleveland_browns_postgame_scri_30.amp
A new one
7. Mayfield is a rookie quarterback seeing something painfully new nearly every game. Mayfield didn't play in the opener, a 21-21 tie with the Steelers. Tyrod Taylor was the starter. Mayfield never has played so many games against so many quick, talented defenses.
13. I know that scouts from the Baltimore Ravens and Kansas City were at this game. No doubt, there were others. A big part of their job is looking for weaknesses and tendencies in Mayfield.
14. In 2016, Jared Goff was a rookie. He lost all seven of his starts. He looked completely overmatched. In 2017, he became a good quarterback. Now in his third season, the former No. 1 draft pick is an elite quarterback. Browns fans hate to hear this, but it takes time with rookie quarterbacks before you know what they can do in the NFL.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
mjp....Like it or not BROWNS fans Mayfield is a rookie, two or three more wins would be......incredible.
mjp....Like it or not BROWNS fans Mayfield is a rookie, two or three more wins would be......incredible.
Exactly. And what changed from year 1 to year 2 in LA??? They got rid of the coach who was leading the team and leading Goff straight into all time bust category and found a smart, young coach who has gotten not only the very best out of Goff, but would certainly seemed like improved him as well. That's why all the doom and gloom of "now we have to rebuild" and "now we have to start all over" is a bunch of crap. There is talent on this team. Not enough yet by far...but there is talent and it will be up to Dorsey to find more in the next draft and FA and up to whoever the new coach is to get the best out of the talent that he will be inheriting.
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mjp....Like it or not BROWNS fans Mayfield is a rookie, two or three more wins would be......incredible.
Exactly. And what changed from year 1 to year 2 in LA??? They got rid of the coach who was leading the team and leading Goff straight into all time bust category and found a smart, young coach who has gotten not only the very best out of Goff, but would certainly seemed like improved him as well. That's why all the doom and gloom of "now we have to rebuild" and "now we have to start all over" is a bunch of crap. There is talent on this team. Not enough yet by far...but there is talent and it will be up to Dorsey to find more in the next draft and FA and up to whoever the new coach is to get the best out of the talent that he will be inheriting.
That's why all the doom and gloom of "now we have to rebuild" and "now we have to start all over" is a bunch of crap. There is talent on this team. Not enough yet by far...but there is talent and it will be up to Dorsey to find more in the next draft and FA and up to whoever the new coach is to get the best out of the talent that he will be inheriting.
I think this is a key point...
For the first time in a very long time we have enough talent to define a potential team identity. Now we need coaches to develop that identity thru the players we have and add.
I think we have one in Williams. Even should he prove to not be our 2019 HC choice, I would hope he can see his way to continue as our DC.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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