Patrick Peterson requests trade
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Cards GM has zero interest in trading Peterson.
Peterson wants a trade because he wants to win a Championship... now... so that kinda eliminates us.
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Cards GM has zero interest in trading Peterson.
Peterson wants a trade because he wants to win a Championship... now... so that kinda eliminates us.
Cards GM has zero interest in trading Peterson.
Peterson wants a trade because he wants to win a Championship... now... so that kinda eliminates us.
Nevertheless, he has like 2.5 years left on his deal. He would have to go wherever he is traded to.
I think he really just want New Orleans, because it is home....and because they have a fair chance at getting to the Super Bowl.
As for eliminating the Browns.....maybe for 2018, but FYI, with the right people, i.e. QB particularly, coaches in place, a quick turnaround is highly possible. Patriots went from 5-11 to Super Bowl Champs with BB/TB Rams went from 4-12 to Super Bowl Champs with Vermeil/Warner Look at the Rams just two years ago..and where McKay/Goff have them now. They were awful 2 years ago. Browns went from 5-11 in 1984 to 8-8 in 1985 to 12-4 in 1986 with the right coach/QB combo.
Could this happen with Browns? I believe so. (but not with this coach....hell....give me Jeff Fisher instead)
Edit: and think what the Browns had at DB back then: Dixon/Minnifield. Peterson/Ward? Could surpass that duo.
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Cards GM has zero interest in trading Peterson.
Peterson wants a trade because he wants to win a Championship... now... so that kinda eliminates us.
Nevertheless, he has like 2.5 years left on his deal. He would have to go wherever he is traded to.
I think he really just want New Orleans, because it is home....and because they have a fair chance at getting to the Super Bowl.
As for eliminating the Browns.....maybe for 2018, but FYI, with the right people, i.e. QB particularly, coaches in place, a quick turnaround is highly possible. Patriots went from 5-11 to Super Bowl Champs with BB/TB Rams went from 4-12 to Super Bowl Champs with Vermeil/Warner Look at the Rams just two years ago..and where McKay/Goff have them now. They were awful 2 years ago. Browns went from 5-11 in 1984 to 8-8 in 1985 to 12-4 in 1986 with the right coach/QB combo.
Could this happen with Browns? I believe so. (but not with this coach....hell....give me Jeff Fisher instead)
Edit: and think what the Browns had at DB back then: Dixon/Minnifield. Peterson/Ward? Could surpass that duo.
Edit: and think what the Browns had at DB back then: Dixon/Minnifield. Peterson/Ward? Could surpass that duo.
Dixon/Minnifield are the couple of defenders that started all the dawg pound thing?
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Edit: and think what the Browns had at DB back then: Dixon/Minnifield. Peterson/Ward? Could surpass that duo.
Dixon/Minnifield are the couple of defenders that started all the dawg pound thing?
Dixon/Minnifield are the couple of defenders that started all the dawg pound thing?
Is that a question? The answer is yes, they are.
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Is that a question? The answer is yes, they are.
Thank you. Bear in mind that I didn't know the Browns did even exist till around 10 years ago...
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Is that a question? The answer is yes, they are.
Thank you. Bear in mind that I didn't know the Browns did even exist till around 10 years ago...
Thank you. Bear in mind that I didn't know the Browns did even exist till around 10 years ago...
We are here to help in that regard.
Here is a wiki article on The Dawg Pound.:
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Here you can also look at data on the 13 Championships won by Cleveland/Northeast Ohio teams. (13 is the most in history....tied with Green Bay)
1964 Cleveland Browns (NFL,10-3-1),
1955NFLCleveland Browns (NFL,9-2-1)
1954NFLCleveland Browns (NFL,9-3)
1950NFLCleveland Browns (NFL,10-2)
1949 Cleveland Browns (AAFC,9-1-2)
1948 Cleveland Browns (AAFC,14-0)
1947 Cleveland Browns (AAFC,12-1-1)
194Cleveland Browns (AAFC,12-2)
1945NFLCleveland Rams (NFL,9-1)1)2)
1924NFLCleveland Bulldogs (NFL,7-1-1)
1923NFLCanton Bulldogs (NFL,11-0-1)
1922NFLCanton Bulldogs (NFL,10-0-2)
1920APFAAkron Pros (APFA,8-0-3)
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Let's face it. He wants to play for a team that has a shot at a SB win, not the woeful Browns with Huey Loser.
But he's under contract, as was pointed out. Would the Cards take a lesser deal, just to make him happy? Our first round pick will be way better than the Saints should Dorsey think it's worth giving up that much.
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Let's face it. He wants to play for a team that has a shot at a SB win, not the woeful Browns with Huey Loser.
But he's under contract, as was pointed out. Would the Cards take a lesser deal, just to make him happy? Our first round pick will be way better than the Saints should Dorsey think it's worth giving up that much.
But he's under contract, as was pointed out. Would the Cards take a lesser deal, just to make him happy? Our first round pick will be way better than the Saints should Dorsey think it's worth giving up that much.
What would the Cards want for him? As a defensive back.....he is probably as good at is position as Khalil Mack is at his....and they got TWO first round picks for him.
I suspect the Cardinals could say: that (the Mack deal) set the market price.
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Pass Rushers are worth more than Defensive Backs Gip
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
But he's under contract, as was pointed out. Would the Cards take a lesser deal, just to make him happy? Our first round pick will be way better than the Saints should Dorsey think it's worth giving up that much.
What would the Cards want for him? As a defensive back.....he is probably as good at is position as Khalil Mack is at his....and they got TWO first round picks for him.
I suspect the Cardinals could say: that (the Mack deal) set the market price.
What would the Cards want for him? As a defensive back.....he is probably as good at is position as Khalil Mack is at his....and they got TWO first round picks for him.
I suspect the Cardinals could say: that (the Mack deal) set the market price.
Two firsts is too much. Will the Cards want to go to full rebuild mode like the Raiders? Stay tuned.
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Is that a question? The answer is yes, they are.
Thank you. Bear in mind that I didn't know the Browns did even exist till around 10 years ago...
Thank you. Bear in mind that I didn't know the Browns did even exist till around 10 years ago...
And how much better was your life back then? Haha
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Edit: and think what the Browns had at DB back then: Dixon/Minnifield. Peterson/Ward? Could surpass that duo.
Dixon/Minnifield are the couple of defenders that started all the dawg pound thing?
Dixon/Minnifield are the couple of defenders that started all the dawg pound thing?
Sort of...
Dixon was the Daddy dawg. Started barking to psych himself up and then took it into the games celebrating plays, etc.
Hanford posed for a poster titled "Dogs of the Defense". IIRC he was in a white suit with 3 or 4 Afghans on leashes. Wish I could show it to you, but it never shows up in google searches.
From there came the Dawg Pound in old Municipal Stadium's bleachers...
NFL Films does a series of "Top Ten" this and thats. One episode was "Top Ten Cornerback Tandems". Dixon-Minniefield were #2 only behind Oakland's Mike Haynes and Lester Hayes.
Here's the clip on our duo. At the 3:24 mark there's a stat comment that is one of the most remarkable things I've ever heard:
"In 1987 only seven passes were thrown in the direction of Hanford Dixon."
Enuff said...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Let's face it. He wants to play for a team that has a shot at a SB win, not the woeful Browns with Huey Loser.
But he's under contract, as was pointed out. Would the Cards take a lesser deal, just to make him happy? Our first round pick will be way better than the Saints should Dorsey think it's worth giving up that much.
But he's under contract, as was pointed out. Would the Cards take a lesser deal, just to make him happy? Our first round pick will be way better than the Saints should Dorsey think it's worth giving up that much.
Nonetheless the risk is another Bowe or Britt just looking for a last good contract without producing.
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Pass Rushers are worth more than Defensive Backs Gip
Maybe, Debatable. I will still take 2 good DBs.
But, you may be right. We had the best DBs in the game back in the day....Dixon/Minniefield......and they could not stop The Drive.
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But he's under contract, as was pointed out. Would the Cards take a lesser deal, just to make him happy? Our first round pick will be way better than the Saints should Dorsey think it's worth giving up that much.
Nonetheless the risk is another Bowe or Britt just looking for a last good contract without producing.
Nonetheless the risk is another Bowe or Britt just looking for a last good contract without producing.
Peterson is light-years ahead of where those two were
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Pass Rushers are worth more than Defensive Backs Gip
Maybe, Debatable. I will still take 2 good DBs.
But, you may be right. We had the best DBs in the game back in the day....Dixon/Minniefield......and they could not stop The Drive.
Maybe, Debatable. I will still take 2 good DBs.
But, you may be right. We had the best DBs in the game back in the day....Dixon/Minniefield......and they could not stop The Drive.
A lot of places will tell you it's QB, Pass Rusher, LT with WR and CB coming in after. It's a passing league. You need a guy that can pass,, a guy to sack the guy that passes, a guy to protect the guy that passes, a guy to catch the ball, and a guy to stop people from catching the ball.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
CB > WR
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Maybe, Debatable. I will still take 2 good DBs.
But, you may be right. We had the best DBs in the game back in the day....Dixon/Minniefield......and they could not stop The Drive.
A lot of places will tell you it's QB, Pass Rusher, LT with WR and CB coming in after. It's a passing league. You need a guy that can pass,, a guy to sack the guy that passes, a guy to protect the guy that passes, a guy to catch the ball, and a guy to stop people from catching the ball.
A lot of places will tell you it's QB, Pass Rusher, LT with WR and CB coming in after. It's a passing league. You need a guy that can pass,, a guy to sack the guy that passes, a guy to protect the guy that passes, a guy to catch the ball, and a guy to stop people from catching the ball.
And on top of that, you need more than one guy to stop people from catching the ball.
Being a pass-happy league, you need about 5 of those guys to cover well. The corner #2(T.Mitch get healthy please?), safeties, and linebackers.
Sh%#, Tampa had good ole’ Carl Nassib dropping back in coverage.
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