As Cleveland Browns fans...

The Cysko Kid

I'm taking my kids to the falcons game on 11/11. Their first browns game. It was either that or Kansas City. We have a decent chance to beat or at least look competitive with Atlanta so Atlanta it is.

CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS

@ghoolie said:

Not to burst your bubble of enthusiasm, but your premise is not based in reality. The

Here is what I see. The Browns have no WR''s, they are lacking depth at RB, and Williams D can't stop a wall clock that isn't plugged in. Hue has created internal coaching turmoil by throwing Haley under the Bus. Add to that the Browns will most likely lose the next 2 games and go to 2--6-1. The final insult to injury is that Hue Jackson is not going to be fired any time soon. Sorry man, your optimism does not seem to be based in reality.

You didn’t burst anything. I would argue that your pessimism is not based in reality. I like what I’ve been seeing on the field, especially compared to the past two seasons, where I didn’t have the optimism to make an online post about my favorite team.

This team is actually fun to watch now.

lodilobo

As Cleveland Browns fans...we find ourselves hoping our moron HC will be fired so we might win one more game this season, while fans of other teams are hoping to win enough games to reach the playoffs. It's very familiar territory.....pathetic.

Tour2ma

... and the no-quote streak is broken...

TexasAg1969

@tour2ma said:

... and the no-quote streak is broken...

?

CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS

@ghoolie said:

Dude, the team is 2 - 4 -1 and about to get their azzes kicked to go to 2 - 6 - 1 before the bye. The head coach just threw Dorsey's new OC under the bus. They are fun to watch? yeah, for fans of the opposing team. I know some people (mods) who like to watch gay porn, but that doesn't mean it is good. The Steelers will crush the Browns Sunday.

OC has made very questionable calls(double screen on 1st down in overtime[where OT held because Baker didn’t throw it], or run on first down after a turnover[great time for a shotplay to win the game] why not try a fly to Callaway? I would wanna step in and help at that point, too)

I am optimistic and I KNOW this team isn’t likely to make the playoffs. I’m excited for the future, my guy.

Sundays actually have meaning again, after 2 years of misery.

AND stats don’t lie..

Tour2ma

Technically PFF's grades are not "stats"...

Just sayin'...

'cause you quoted he-who-shall-not-be-quoted...

The Gipper

@ghoolie said:

Dude, the team is 2 - 4 -1 and about to get their azzes kicked to go to 2 - 6 - 1 before the bye. The head coach just threw Dorsey's new OC under the bus. They are fun to watch? yeah, for fans of the opposing team. I know some people (mods) who like to watch gay porn, but that doesn't mean it is good. The Steelers will crush the Browns Sunday.

And you will be banned from Sunday to Wednsday?

I see that I replied to your post before it could be deleted, which it was. Your faith in the Steelers is your weakness.

hoorta

@clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

You didn’t burst anything. I would argue that your pessimism is not based in reality. I like what I’ve been seeing on the field, especially compared to the past two seasons, where I didn’t have the optimism to make an online post about my favorite team.

This team is actually fun to watch now.

Fun? Try more like frustrating to watch. The Ghoul is more or less correct. The injuries to the DBs had the Bucs receivers running wide open Sunday for the most part. Our wrs aren't getting open, or when they are Baker didn't see them. He was forcing throws to a double covered Landry when he had Callaway with nary a defender in sight of him- twice. There's obvious tension in the coaching staff too- all a product of the pressure to win. Killing penalties- six first downs that way that resulted in a gift touchdown. That the Browns aren't showing discipline in that regard isn't a one game problem, it's been going on since Hue was the coach. You can't do much when it's first and 30.

@tour2ma said:

Technically PFF's grades are not "stats"...

Just sayin'...

'cause you quoted he-who-shall-not-be-quoted...

I didn't delete him- or the replies this time Tour- because you know who was being civil for a change, and just expressed an opinion. Some folks still think they can win a debate with him.... LOL, btw Saquon racked up 42 yards yesterday, and the 1-6 Giants are in the running (with their stud RB and OBJ) for the #1 overall pick. Manning was looking like a pinata back there, shades of Bernie in his later years... Now about OL being dime a dozen....

hoorta

@the-gipper said:

And you will be banned from Sunday to Wednsday?

I see that I replied to your post before it could be deleted, which it was. Your faith in the Steelers is your weakness.

ohhhh, I see he thinks us mods watch gay porn, should have deleted it....

Ghoolie rules:

1) no posting BS

2) no cussing every 5th word

3) no insulting Mods who are only trying to keep this Board 1\2 civil...

Or he will get banned Saturday through Monday...

The Gipper

@hoorta said:

ohhhh, I see he thinks us mods watch gay porn, should have deleted it....

Ghoolie rules:

1) no posting BS

2) no cussing every 5th word

3) no insulting Mods who are only trying to keep this Board 1\2 civil...

Or he will get banned Saturday through Monday...

To take off of a theme: Ghoolie thinks that he is the Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious, when in reality, he is Jar Jar Binks. (don't let Z see this...he won't have a clue)

jiggins7919

@mark-o said:

There is plenty to be positive about with this team despite how heartbreaking these losses are this year. I'm not sure Hue is the guy to lead us to the next level but I do think there are a lot of positives with the team this year. I don't question his decision making as much this year as I have in past years, maybe not calling plays is helping him make better choices. I do think (and said so in the Tavern at the time) that he should've taken the points at the end of the half. I realize that Baker shouldn't fumble there, but it also was a good play by the defensive player as well to catch him from behind. I think putting 3 points on the board would've helped change some momentum going into halftime.

Well said. I think just about all of us were screaming for the FG there. It's frustrating. Very frustrating.

Honestly, I think we'd be happier if we had won just ONE more of the heartbreakers. Losing like we tend to do just crushes everything. It sours the progress, drowns the hopes, and taints the team with this "they're going to lose no matter what" stigma. After Hue did "the cleanse", and we drafted Baker, I really hoped the funk that surrounded our team would dissipate. The creative ways to lose, the failures at the end of games, the snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...that kind of stuff. Before the season began, I even said one of our biggest hurdles would be to fight through that crap. To rid ourselves of the losing mentality and the end of game choking. We had to find a way to push through that intangible...."Browns-ness". It's not very scientific, but I feel it. I'm not saying we're "cursed" or any stupid crap like that, but there's obviously something wrong with the way we finish games. Is it coaching? Do our players just expect to lose, therefore it happens? I really don't know. The thing is, you'd expect to almost ACCIDENTALLY win more of these close games, ya know? Like, the deflection pick-6, or a fumble that bounces right our guy for an easy score, or a busted coverage down the field, or SOMETHING.

For me, I'm most excited about having a QB I believe in, and I need to keep that in mind. We don’t have another year of watching the draft for QB’s, wondering who will be a free agent, or anything like that. We can now build our team AROUND a young, talented, and fiery QB. A guy that players respect. Someone who can throw with accuracy, zip, and overcome mistakes. Did you see that 2^nd and 26 run? We just had a terrible penalty wipe out a decent play (shocker), and what’s he do? He runs for 35 yards or so, takes a shot to the head, comes close to getting a taunting penalty, but pulls it in. It was really something. Did we go onto score that drive? Or was that the 4^th and goal debacle? How about that throw to Landry (and the catch?!)? How about after the turnover, Baker looks at Landry and says, “One play! One play, baby!” And then DOES IT.

That’s what I’m excited about. How about Myles Garrett with the game-changing play? A true force to be reckoned with, every single play. Ogbah looking good, Randall playing well, Ward being a virtual allstar already.

There is a lot to be excited about, and I get as frustrated as anyone, but I’m just pained thinking about changing coaches. Trying to fit new players into new systems. Our QB learning a second system in his second year. Another rebuild, another year of “patience”, and….and…you know the drill.

stillmotion

@the-gipper said:

To take off of a theme: Ghoolie thinks that he is the Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious, when in reality, he is Jar Jar Binks. (don't let Z see this...he won't have a clue)

Jar Jar was the worst character in the history of star wars.....

UNTIL the feminist robot in the recent solo movie

hoorta

@the-gipper said:

To take off of a theme: Ghoolie thinks that he is the Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious, when in reality, he is Jar Jar Binks. (don't let Z see this...he won't have a clue)

Just for Zombo...

Image result for jar jar binks

Ghoolie

Hoorta, I am happy to play fair, as long as you do. I didn t even know I was banned the last time. However, bro, stick to your rules.for EVERYONE. Be fair.

I come.back after 3 days not posting, and my name is plastered over multiple threads and posts.

Bro, dont you get tired of reading posts from guys like Dutch Oven, Mark and Mjp who quote me and then announce that they never read me?

Come on dude, if you want to clean up the board then throw your helmet-to-helmet flag REGARDLESS pf who lowers their helmet.

Be fair, then you won't.have a Ghoolie headache.

Be fair bro, just be fair.

browns52

@the-gipper said:

And you will be banned from Sunday to Wednsday?

I see that I replied to your post before it could be deleted, which it was. Your faith in the Steelers is your weakness.

i have to agree with ghoulie.......you need to start winning games...sure we have 2 more wins than last yr already....but it appears to look like another last place finish in the afc north....that is unacceptable....totally...i think jackson made some really bad calls this yr that cost us a game or two...the oc who i thought was going to be very good...is not.....my feeling is that this upcoming game against the steelers is going to make or break jackson....we need to win this game...i don't know how, but he needs to pull this one out somehow....too many penalties...stupid playcalling...etc etc...how many regimes have we seen this same story....cmon jackson...get it together...

Mark O

@ghoolie said:

Bro, dont you get tired of reading posts from guys like Dutch Oven, Mark and Mjp who quote me and then announce that they never read me?

This is the first time Ive quoted you in months. I only read your posts so I can delete the bullshit garbage you constantly post here.

You're a troll who posts to get a reaction, nothing more...nothing less in my mind. Not even worth my time to respond to you. I'll go back to not quoting you and deleting your posts.

CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS

@hoorta said:

Fun? Try more like frustrating to watch.

Our wrs aren't getting open, or when they are Baker didn't see them. He was forcing throws to a double covered Landry when he had Callaway with nary a defender in sight of him- twice.

That the Browns aren't showing discipline in that regard isn't a one game problem, it's been going on since Hue was the coach. You can't do much when it's first and 30.

LOL, btw Saquon racked up 42 yards yesterday, and the 1-6 Giants are in the running (with their stud RB and OBJ) for the #1 overall pick. Manning was looking like a pinata back there.

Baker did not play well in the first half, I’ll give you that. However, in the second half he played like his job was on the line and he was on fire.

Great pocket presence, got rid of the ball quickly, and with accuracy. He is still growing, coming out of Oklahoma U where he had a CLEAN POCKET almost every snap.

Ya’ll can blame Hue for penalties all you want but a lot of these guys, like undrated ROOKIE Desmond Harrison, are ROOKIES and a lot of these holdings are completely unnecessary. (Maybe Browns need a better training camp refs, if that’s a thing)

I choose to blame the playcaller, who called a double screen in OT which resulted in rookie Des Harrison holding in order to protect Baker. His other holding on a Nick Chubb run was boneheaded.

Saquon is a hell of a player and will be for a long time, but I think the Giants should honestly trade him though. He probably has A LOT of value.

DieHardBrownsFan

@the-cysko-kid said:

I'm taking my kids to the falcons game on 11/11. Their first browns game. It was either that or Kansas City. We have a decent chance to beat or at least look competitive with Atlanta so Atlanta it is.

Have fun dude. Buy them some hotdogs and cokes and make it memorable.

hoorta

@ghoolie said:

Hoorta, I am happy to play fair, as long as you do. I didn t even know I was banned the last time. However, bro, stick to your rules.for EVERYONE. Be fair.

I come.back after 3 days not posting, and my name is plastered over multiple threads and posts.

Bro, dont you get tired of reading posts from guys like Dutch Oven, Mark and Mjp who quote me and then announce that they never read me?

Come on dude, if you want to clean up the board then throw your helmet-to-helmet flag REGARDLESS pf who lowers their helmet.

Be fair, then you won't.have a Ghoolie headache.

Be fair bro, just be fair.

LOL, you've made it pretty easy to be unfair base on past antics. However, FYI- I have deleted stuff that I consider personal attacks involving (and I hate to name names) between Dutch Oven and Die Hard Browns Fan. I don't delete stuff out of hand just because I don't happen to agree with it. You can disagree all you want, and I'll have to be the judge of when anyone crosses that line being obnoxious about it. .

Some guys quote you- because of your contrarian view, and feel they have to respond. Debate is fine on the Board- to a point. There's a couple guys who have told me- they have you on ignore, and if someone responds they see your posts. And they're not too happy about it.