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  • He's good at staying away from specifics, and saying the right things

  • Imo Dawson can shop around, he can be replaced. Ever since that bullshit game in Oakland in 07 when he had a 40 yard game winning fieldgoal BLOCKED he has been on my chopping block. lol

  • Imo Dawson can shop around, he can be replaced. Ever since that bullshit game in Oakland in 07 when he had a 40 yard game winning fieldgoal BLOCKED he has been on my chopping block. lol

    @medicineman said:

    Imo Dawson can shop around, he can be replaced. Ever since that bullshit game in Oakland in 07 when he had a 40 yard game winning fieldgoal BLOCKED he has been on my chopping block. lol

    I forgot about that game! God damn you, now I am pissed all over again. We should have won that game, and the Cardinals game.

  • Dawson can be replaced? Are you guys kidding me? The last thing you want to do is get rid of a kicker to look for another kicker, when the one you have now is one of the most acccurate kickers in the league.

  • @inspecta said:

    Dawson has been solid for us, no doubt but I wouldn't bend over backwards for the guy. He's a kicker for God's sake.

    Go get some soccer player from Italy.

    LOL, I'm sure that buffalo fans refer to their field goal kicker as only a kicker. Cost them two super bowls

    Dawson hasn't shown any signs of dropping off but he isn't a young guy any more so we will see

  • mikeyP72 said:

    I want a kicker nicknamed "The Toe". Just always have...

    Mark Mosley

  • Imo Dawson can shop around, he can be replaced. Ever since that bullshit game in Oakland in 07 when he had a 40 yard game winning fieldgoal BLOCKED he has been on my chopping block. lol

    @medicineman said:

    Imo Dawson can shop around, he can be replaced. Ever since that bullshit game in Oakland in 07 when he had a 40 yard game winning fieldgoal BLOCKED he has been on my chopping block. lol

    No way. He get that FG in Oakland blocked because of the line.

    p.s. Dawson won the Bills game last year and was the only offensive player to even score the last 6 games. He's money.

  • i'd pay him his $640,000; and add a $100,000 bonus for each time he meets a ball carrier at the line of scrimmage and holds him to four yards or less. That won't cost much.

    @roach said:

    i'd pay him his $640,000; and add a $100,000 bonus for each time he meets a ball carrier at the line of scrimmage and holds him to four yards or less. That won't cost much.

    Glad to see I am not the only one who thinks DQ is Dwayne Rudd reincarnated. He cannot shed a block to save his life.

  • @roach said:

    i'd pay him his $640,000; and add a $100,000 bonus for each time he meets a ball carrier at the line of scrimmage and holds him to four yards or less. That won't cost much.

    Glad to see I am not the only one who thinks DQ is Dwayne Rudd reincarnated. He cannot shed a block to save his life.

    @bronx-cheer said:

    Glad to see I am not the only one who thinks DQ is Dwayne Rudd reincarnated. He cannot shed a block to save his life.

    Hopefully he can partially fix that this year since he actually has some experienced players around who know how to tackle.

  • @roach said:

    i'd pay him his $640,000; and add a $100,000 bonus for each time he meets a ball carrier at the line of scrimmage and holds him to four yards or less. That won't cost much.

    Glad to see I am not the only one who thinks DQ is Dwayne Rudd reincarnated. He cannot shed a block to save his life.

    @bronx-cheer said:

    He cannot shed a block to save his life.

    That would describe Leon Williams. D'Qwell Jackson, on the other hand, isn't all that bad at shedding blocks. It's never going to the best aspect of his game, but he makes up for it with his instincts and quickness. And any linebacker's going to get overwhelmed at times when two of the three guys playing in front of him flat out suck; remember how Ray Lewis complained a few years back because the fat men weren't keeping him clean.

    If you think D'Qwell isn't a 3-4 ILB, you're going to be disappointed with Barton. From what I've seen, DQ's better than him at meeting and greeting blockers. That's why Kenyon Coleman's going to be so important to this defense. It's also why we should all be hoping that Robaire Smith comes back 100%.

  • Could be that time of year to have a moronic discussion on how the kicker sucks because he missed a couple in his career.

    Most Extra Points – Career

    641 Lou Groza (1950-59, 1961-67)

    432 Don Cockroft (1968-80)

    248 Matt Bahr (1981-89)

    195 Phil Dawson (1999-2006)

    156 Matt Stover (1991-95)

    44 Sam Baker (1960-61)

    Most Field Goals – Career

    234 Lou Groza (1950-59, 1961-67)

    216 Don Cockroft (1968-80)

    156 Phil Dawson (1999-2006)

    143 Matt Bahr (1981-89)

    108 Matt Stover (1991-95)

    14 Jerry Kauric (1990)

    Most Field Goals – Season

    29 Matt Stover (1995)

    27 Phil Dawson (2005)

    26 Matt Stover (1994)

    24 Phil Dawson (2004)

    24 Matt Bahr (1988)

    24 Matt Bahr (1984)

    23 Lou Groza (1953)

    22 Phil Dawson (2002)

    22 Phil Dawson (2001)

    22 Don Cockroft (1973)

    22 Don Cockroft (1972)

    22 Lou Groza (1964)

    Most Field Goals – Game

    6 Phil Dawson (11/05/2006 at San Diego

    Chargers)

    5 Phil Dawson (01/02/2005 at Houston Texans)

    5 Matt Stover (10/29/1995 at Cincinnati

    Bengals)

    5 Don Cockroft (10/19/1975 at Denver Broncos)

    4 Phil Dawson (10/08/2006 at Carolina

    Panthers)

    4 Phil Dawson (09/19/2004 at Dallas Cowboys)

    4 Phil Dawson (09/08/2002 vs. Kansas City

    Chiefs)

    4 Phil Dawson (11/25/2001 vs. Cincinnati

    Bengals)

    4 Phil Dawson (11/12/2000 vs. New England

    Patriots)

    4 Matt Stover, 4 times, most recent

    (12/17/1995 vs. Cincinnati Bengals)

    4 Don Cockroft, 4 times, most recent

    (09/02/1979 at New York Jets)

    Most Consecutive Games Field Goal Made

    14 Lou Groza (1950) 10 (1951) 4

    Most Consecutive Field Goals Made

    27 Phil Dawson (2003) 10 (2004) 17

    23 Matt Stover (1994) 20 (1995) 3

    21 Phil Dawson (2001) 15 (2002) 6

    20 Phil Dawson (2004) 5 (2005) 15

    16 Don Cockroft (1974) 11 (1975) 5

    Highest Field Goal Percentage – Career

    (minimum 50 attempts)

    82.10 Phil Dawson (1999-2006); 156-190

    80.60 Matt Stover (1991-95); 108-134

    74.09 Matt Bahr (1981-89); 143-193

    65.85 Don Cockroft (1968-80); 216-328

    58.10 Lou Groza (1950-59, 1961-67); 233-401

    Highest Field Goal Percentage – Season

    (minimum 14 attempts)

    93.10 Phil Dawson (2005); 27-29

    92.86 Matt Stover (1994); 26-28

    88.46 Lou Groza (1953); 23-26

    88.00 Phil Dawson (2001); 22-25

    87.88 Matt Stover (1995); 29-33

    87.50 Matt Bahr (1983); 21-24

    87.50 Don Cockroft (1974); 14-16

    I believe he's 7th all time in accuracy right now.

  • Imo Dawson can shop around, he can be replaced. Ever since that bullshit game in Oakland in 07 when he had a 40 yard game winning fieldgoal BLOCKED he has been on my chopping block. lol

    @medicineman said:

    Imo Dawson can shop around, he can be replaced. Ever since that bullshit game in Oakland in 07 when he had a 40 yard game winning fieldgoal BLOCKED he has been on my chopping block. lol

    the living Pez made the first one but that time-out gave them a redo attempt at the block. that's not on him, only misses are. Big Head makes 50+ yarders from both hashes in subzero swirling stadiums in his sleep but sweats bullets on extra points...still a fair trade IMO. Cle is the perfect home for him.

    Medicine you are due for a rewatching of the Blizzard in Buffalo, '07--that shit was immortal.

    PD has singlehandedly beaten that club for years now.

  • Could be that time of year to have a moronic discussion on how the kicker sucks because he missed a couple in his career.

    Most Extra Points – Career

    641 Lou Groza (1950-59, 1961-67)

    432 Don Cockroft (1968-80)

    248 Matt Bahr (1981-89)

    195 Phil Dawson (1999-2006)

    156 Matt Stover (1991-95)

    44 Sam Baker (1960-61)

    Most Field Goals – Career

    234 Lou Groza (1950-59, 1961-67)

    216 Don Cockroft (1968-80)

    156 Phil Dawson (1999-2006)

    143 Matt Bahr (1981-89)

    108 Matt Stover (1991-95)

    14 Jerry Kauric (1990)

    Most Field Goals – Season

    29 Matt Stover (1995)

    27 Phil Dawson (2005)

    26 Matt Stover (1994)

    24 Phil Dawson (2004)

    24 Matt Bahr (1988)

    24 Matt Bahr (1984)

    23 Lou Groza (1953)

    22 Phil Dawson (2002)

    22 Phil Dawson (2001)

    22 Don Cockroft (1973)

    22 Don Cockroft (1972)

    22 Lou Groza (1964)

    Most Field Goals – Game

    6 Phil Dawson (11/05/2006 at San Diego

    Chargers)

    5 Phil Dawson (01/02/2005 at Houston Texans)

    5 Matt Stover (10/29/1995 at Cincinnati

    Bengals)

    5 Don Cockroft (10/19/1975 at Denver Broncos)

    4 Phil Dawson (10/08/2006 at Carolina

    Panthers)

    4 Phil Dawson (09/19/2004 at Dallas Cowboys)

    4 Phil Dawson (09/08/2002 vs. Kansas City

    Chiefs)

    4 Phil Dawson (11/25/2001 vs. Cincinnati

    Bengals)

    4 Phil Dawson (11/12/2000 vs. New England

    Patriots)

    4 Matt Stover, 4 times, most recent

    (12/17/1995 vs. Cincinnati Bengals)

    4 Don Cockroft, 4 times, most recent

    (09/02/1979 at New York Jets)

    Most Consecutive Games Field Goal Made

    14 Lou Groza (1950) 10 (1951) 4

    Most Consecutive Field Goals Made

    27 Phil Dawson (2003) 10 (2004) 17

    23 Matt Stover (1994) 20 (1995) 3

    21 Phil Dawson (2001) 15 (2002) 6

    20 Phil Dawson (2004) 5 (2005) 15

    16 Don Cockroft (1974) 11 (1975) 5

    Highest Field Goal Percentage – Career

    (minimum 50 attempts)

    82.10 Phil Dawson (1999-2006); 156-190

    80.60 Matt Stover (1991-95); 108-134

    74.09 Matt Bahr (1981-89); 143-193

    65.85 Don Cockroft (1968-80); 216-328

    58.10 Lou Groza (1950-59, 1961-67); 233-401

    Highest Field Goal Percentage – Season

    (minimum 14 attempts)

    93.10 Phil Dawson (2005); 27-29

    92.86 Matt Stover (1994); 26-28

    88.46 Lou Groza (1953); 23-26

    88.00 Phil Dawson (2001); 22-25

    87.88 Matt Stover (1995); 29-33

    87.50 Matt Bahr (1983); 21-24

    87.50 Don Cockroft (1974); 14-16

    I believe he's 7th all time in accuracy right now.

    @riffer-x said:

    Could be that time of year to have a moronic discussion on how the kicker sucks because he missed a couple in his career.

    Most Extra Points – Career

    641 Lou Groza (1950-59, 1961-67)

    432 Don Cockroft (1968-80)

    248 Matt Bahr (1981-89)

    195 Phil Dawson (1999-2006)

    156 Matt Stover (1991-95)

    44 Sam Baker (1960-61)

    Most Field Goals – Career

    234 Lou Groza (1950-59, 1961-67)

    216 Don Cockroft (1968-80)

    156 Phil Dawson (1999-2006)

    143 Matt Bahr (1981-89)

    108 Matt Stover (1991-95)

    14 Jerry Kauric (1990)

    Most Field Goals – Season

    29 Matt Stover (1995)

    27 Phil Dawson (2005)

    26 Matt Stover (1994)

    24 Phil Dawson (2004)

    24 Matt Bahr (1988)

    24 Matt Bahr (1984)

    23 Lou Groza (1953)

    22 Phil Dawson (2002)

    22 Phil Dawson (2001)

    22 Don Cockroft (1973)

    22 Don Cockroft (1972)

    22 Lou Groza (1964)

    Most Field Goals – Game

    6 Phil Dawson (11/05/2006 at San Diego

    Chargers)

    5 Phil Dawson (01/02/2005 at Houston Texans)

    5 Matt Stover (10/29/1995 at Cincinnati

    Bengals)

    5 Don Cockroft (10/19/1975 at Denver Broncos)

    4 Phil Dawson (10/08/2006 at Carolina

    Panthers)

    4 Phil Dawson (09/19/2004 at Dallas Cowboys)

    4 Phil Dawson (09/08/2002 vs. Kansas City

    Chiefs)

    4 Phil Dawson (11/25/2001 vs. Cincinnati

    Bengals)

    4 Phil Dawson (11/12/2000 vs. New England

    Patriots)

    4 Matt Stover, 4 times, most recent

    (12/17/1995 vs. Cincinnati Bengals)

    4 Don Cockroft, 4 times, most recent

    (09/02/1979 at New York Jets)

    Most Consecutive Games Field Goal Made

    14 Lou Groza (1950) 10 (1951) 4

    Most Consecutive Field Goals Made

    27 Phil Dawson (2003) 10 (2004) 17

    23 Matt Stover (1994) 20 (1995) 3

    21 Phil Dawson (2001) 15 (2002) 6

    20 Phil Dawson (2004) 5 (2005) 15

    16 Don Cockroft (1974) 11 (1975) 5

    Highest Field Goal Percentage – Career

    (minimum 50 attempts)

    82.10 Phil Dawson (1999-2006); 156-190

    80.60 Matt Stover (1991-95); 108-134

    74.09 Matt Bahr (1981-89); 143-193

    65.85 Don Cockroft (1968-80); 216-328

    58.10 Lou Groza (1950-59, 1961-67); 233-401

    Highest Field Goal Percentage – Season

    (minimum 14 attempts)

    93.10 Phil Dawson (2005); 27-29

    92.86 Matt Stover (1994); 26-28

    88.46 Lou Groza (1953); 23-26

    88.00 Phil Dawson (2001); 22-25

    87.88 Matt Stover (1995); 29-33

    87.50 Matt Bahr (1983); 21-24

    87.50 Don Cockroft (1974); 14-16

    I believe he's 7th all time in accuracy right now.

    It is stupid to think a guy like Dawson should be relaced. We have a good kicker - looking for a replacement shouldn't be an option. The last thing you want to do as a front office is look for a kicker. Unless you've found one in the draft that is better, you sign Dawson. He probably has 8-10 years left in him.

    He is a good guy. He is a good Brown. Lets keep someone here their whole career!