Backup Quarterbacks
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It's like one of those coaching trees,. But from the browns having sub par QBs
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Actually, I'm more surprised that so many of these guys are still in the league, let alone #2 on the depth charts.
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.....and if any of them has to play, bet the house on the opponent.
aren't Anderson, Osweiler and Kessler expected to play....even start?
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Someone left flowers in a champagne bottle on Johnny's
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From the above, the following QBs have started every game of a season for the Browns:
Otto Graham....6 times
Brian Sipe....4 times
Milt Plum....3 times
Bernie Kosar....3 times
Frank Ryan....2 times
Nelsen, Phipps, McDonald, Couch...1 time.
As for the opposite and Zombo's trivia question....lets extrapolate: Name those QBs who started 1 and only 1 game in their career for the Cleveland Browns? :
Len Dawson.....HOF
Gary Lane
Will Cureton
Don Gault
Terry Luck
Spergon Wynn
Bruce Gradkowski
Thad Lewis
Connor Shaw
Kevin Hogan
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aren't Anderson, Osweiler and Kessler expected to play....even start?
Anderson and Cockwhistler are starting for Buffalo and Miami. Kessler is not starting but Bleak Bortles is on a short leash this week so London could get treated to the Cody Concussler show.
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aren't Anderson, Osweiler and Kessler expected to play....even start?
Anderson and Cockwhistler are starting for Buffalo and Miami. Kessler is not starting but Bleak Bortles is on a short leash this week so London could get treated to the Cody Concussler show.
Anderson and Sockwhistler are starting for Buffalo and Miami. Kessler is not starting but Bleak Bortles is on a short leash this week so London could get treated to the Cody Concussler show.
And the bad thing is that none of these teams....Buff/Miami/Jax....show up on the Browns schedule.
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Anderson and Sockwhistler are starting for Buffalo and Miami. Kessler is not starting but Bleak Bortles is on a short leash this week so London could get treated to the Cody Concussler show.
And the bad thing is that none of these teams....Buff/Miami/Jax....show up on the Browns schedule.
And the bad thing is that none of these teams....Buff/Miami/Jax....show up on the Browns schedule.
That would be correct. And 2 of them, Miami and Buffalo are on in primetime this very week.
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Zombo said:
Forgot about Hogan .... Guess he just got promoted!
Zombo
Yes their backup just got arrested and Paxton is now living with Ghoolie as his live in Nanny
Yes their backup just got arrested and Paxton is now living with Ghoolie as his live in Nanny
Paxton Lynch was just re-signed by Denver, given their #3 got arrested. Lynch is still learning. He will be fine. THe guy can flat out play. Don't be surprised to see the Browns make a play for him should Baker get hurt.
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@ghoolie said:
Azzhole QB. Single-handedly lost 4 Superbowls.
All by himself?
Maybe Kelly, Marino, Fouts, Moon, McNair, McNabb, Testaverde, K. Anderson among others need to be on the list of fools' azzholes list of losers, none of them have won a super bowl either.
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I'm assuming Don Strock started 2 games then.
Strock was an ok backup in his career 22 starts in his 167 games played, not all that bad in that injury plagued 1988 season with the BROWNS.
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV Career 167 22 16-6-0 443 779 56.9 5349 45 5.8 42 5.4 67 6.9 5.6 12.1 32.0 74.9 37 320 6.16 4.95 4.5 7 8 21 14 yrs MIA 163 20 14-6-0 388 688 56.4 4613 39 5.7 37 5.4 67 6.7 5.4 11.9 28.3 73.5 33 294 5.99 4.76 4.6 6 7 19 1 yr CLE 4 2 2-0-0 55 91 60.4 736 6 6.6 5 5.5 41 8.1 6.9 13.4 184.0 85.2 4 26 7.47 6.37 4.2 1 1 2 1974 24 MIA 10 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 1975 25 MIA qb 10 6 3 2-1-0 26 45 57.8 230 2 4.4 2 4.4 25 5.1 4.0 8.8 38.3 67.8 3 29 4.19 3.15 6.3 2 1976 26 MIA qb 10 4 1 1-0-0 21 47 44.7 359 3 6.4 2 4.3 53 7.6 7.0 17.1 89.8 74.7 4 41 6.24 5.65 7.8 2 1977 27 MIA 10 4 0 2 4 50.0 12 0 0.0 1 25.0 9 3.0 -8.3 6.0 3.0 16.7 0 0 3.00 -8.25 0.0 0 1978 28 MIA qb 10 16 7 5-2-0 72 135 53.3 825 12 8.9 6 4.4 57 6.1 5.9 11.5 51.6 83.1 9 73 5.22 5.01 6.3 4 1979 29 MIA qb 10 16 4 3-1-0 56 100 56.0 830 6 6.0 6 6.0 53 8.3 6.8 14.8 51.9 78.3 2 22 7.92 6.45 2.0 1 1 3 1980 30 MIA qb 10 16 2 1-1-0 30 62 48.4 313 1 1.6 5 8.1 33 5.0 1.7 10.4 19.6 35.2 5 49 3.94 0.88 7.5 1 1 1 1981 31 MIA qb 10 16 1 0-1-0 79 130 60.8 901 6 4.6 8 6.2 52 6.9 5.1 11.4 56.3 71.3 6 45 6.29 4.53 4.4 2 2 3 1982 32 MIA 10 9 0 30 55 54.5 306 2 3.6 5 9.1 43 5.6 2.2 10.2 34.0 45.0 1 5 5.38 2.07 1.8 2 2 2 1983 33 MIA qb 10 15 2 2-0-0 34 52 65.4 403 4 7.7 1 1.9 47 7.8 8.4 11.9 26.9 106.5 3 30 6.78 7.42 5.5 0 1 1 1984 34 MIA 10 16 0 4 6 66.7 27 0 0.0 0 0.0 12 4.5 4.5 6.8 1.7 76.4 0 0 4.50 4.50 0.0 0 1985 35 MIA 10 16 0 7 9 77.8 141 1 11.1 0 0.0 67 15.7 17.9 20.1 8.8 155.8 0 0 15.67 17.89 0.0 0 1986 36 MIA 10 16 0 14 20 70.0 152 2 10.0 0 0.0 21 7.6 9.6 10.9 9.5 125.4 0 0 7.60 9.60 0.0 1 1987 37 MIA 10 12 0 13 23 56.5 114 0 0.0 1 4.3 26 5.0 3.0 8.8 9.5 51.7 0 0 4.96 3.00 0.0 0 1988 38 CLE qb 12 4 2 2-0-0 55 91 60.4 736 6 6.6 5 5.5 41 8.1 6.9 13.4 184.0 85.2 4 26 7.47 6.37 4.2 1 1 2 -
From the above, the following QBs have started every game of a season for the Browns:
Otto Graham....6 times
Brian Sipe....4 times
Milt Plum....3 times
Bernie Kosar....3 times
Frank Ryan....2 times
Nelsen, Phipps, McDonald, Couch...1 time.
As for the opposite and Zombo's trivia question....lets extrapolate: Name those QBs who started 1 and only 1 game in their career for the Cleveland Browns? :
Len Dawson.....HOF
Gary Lane
Will Cureton
Don Gault
Terry Luck
Spergon Wynn
Bruce Gradkowski
Thad Lewis
Connor Shaw
Kevin Hogan
As for the opposite and Zombo's trivia question....lets extrapolate: Name those QBs who started 1 and only 1 game in their career for the Cleveland Browns? :
Len Dawson.....HOF
The story of how Alliance-born Len Dawson got away from the Browns and to the Hall of Fame is one I don't know... Ryan and Nelson were fine QBs in the 60s, but still it wouldn't have sucked to have kept Dawson. I wonder what happened?
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As for the opposite and Zombo's trivia question....lets extrapolate: Name those QBs who started 1 and only 1 game in their career for the Cleveland Browns? :
Len Dawson.....HOF
The story of how Alliance-born Len Dawson got away from the Browns and to the Hall of Fame is one I don't know... Ryan and Nelson were fine QBs in the 60s, but still it wouldn't have sucked to have kept Dawson. I wonder what happened?
The story of how Alliance-born Len Dawson got away from the Browns and to the Hall of Fame is one I don't know... Ryan and Nelson were fine QBs in the 60s, but still it wouldn't have sucked to have kept Dawson. I wonder what happened?
Dawson born in 1935 was the ninth of 11 children of Ohio native James and England-born Annie Dawson. He attended Alliance High School in Alliance, Ohio. He was MVP of the football team and was named outstanding Ohio back of the year by the International News Service. A three-sport athlete, Dawson set school records in football and in basketball, and was the first athlete in 13 years to be named first-team all-state in both sports during the same year.
He was 15 years older than me I remember hearing about Lenny Dawson but did not play near his era. Niles did play the Alliance Avaitors during the 1960s. Just doing a little digging I found (briefly, he had quite a career):
During the recruiting process, Dawson had to choose between Ohio State University in Columbus and Purdue University in Indiana. While he was reluctant to take over Woody Hayes' split-T offense with the Buckeyes, the true reason for his selection of Purdue stemmed from the chemistry he had established with a Boilermaker assistant coach, Hank Stram beginning a friendship that would last for more than a half century. During three seasons with the Boilermakers, Dawson threw for over 3,000 yards, leading the Big Ten Conference in that category during each campaign. While at Purdue, Dawson was initiated into the Alpha Tau Omega fraternity.
As a sophomore in 1954, Dawson put together an outstanding first season as the NCAA's leader in pass efficiency, while also playing defense and serving as the Boilermaker kicker. Blessed with a strong offensive line, he threw four touchdown passes in a 31-0 victory over the University of Missouri, then later engineered a huge upset of the University of Notre Dame, which had entered the contest on a 13-game winning streak.
Despite being a first round pick in the 1957 NFL Draft, Dawson was unable to make an impact with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Following his rookie campaign, his status in the Steel City became even more tenuous when the Steelers acquired future Hall of Famer Bobby Layne early in the 1958 season.
Dawson was then traded after to the Cleveland Browns on.December 31, 1959.
After encountering similar problems in battling Browns' quarterback Milt Plum, Dawson was released having completed only 21 passes for 204 yards and two touchdowns in his five seasons of NFL play.
Dawson signed with the American Football League's Dallas Texans on June 30, 1962. The move reunited him with Stram, who was beginning his third year as the Texans' head coach.
In that first season, 1962, Dawson led the league in touchdowns and yards per attempt, and was The Sporting News' selection as the AFL MVP. He also led Dallas to the first of three league titles in a thrilling double-overtime victory over the two-time defending champion Oilers in Houston. Dawson ran a ball-control offense in the 20-17 win, and tossed a 28-yard touchdown pass to halfback Abner Haynes. The team then moved north to Kansas City and were renamed The Chiefs in 1963. Dawson was also selected by his peers as a Sporting News 1966 AFL All-League player.
A pinpoint passer, Dawson's mobility helped him flourish in Stram's "moving pocket" offense. He would win four AFL passing titles and was selected as a league All-Star six times, ending the 10-year run of the league as its highest-rated career passer. From 1962 to 1969, Dawson threw more touchdown passes (182) than any other professional football quarterback during that time. In 1966, Dawson led the Chiefs to a, 11-2-1 record and a 31-7 win over the Buffalo Bills in the AFL championship game, earning his team the honor of representing the AFL in Super Bowl I, the first championship game between the AFL and their NFL rivals. The NFL champion Green Bay Packers won easily, 35-10, but Dawson had a fairly good performance in the game, completing 16 of 27 passes for 210 yards and one touchdown, with one interception.
While he threw for more than 2,000 yards in each of the previous seven campaigns, Dawson's 1969 season with Kansas City would be his most memorable by making a dramatic comeback from a knee injury suffered in the season's second game. The injury was first feared as season-ending, but after missing five games, Dawson went on to lead the Chiefs to road playoff victories over both the defending champion New York Jets and the Oakland Raiders.
He then capped his year with MVP accolades in Super Bowl IV, the last game ever played by an American Football League team. With the league's absorption into the National Football League in 1970, Dawson earned one final honor from the league as a member of the second team All-time All-AFL Team. He is also a member of the Chiefs' Hall of Fame and the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He would earn Pro Bowl honors following the 1971 NFL season, then ended his career in 1975,
He retired in May 1976 just before turning 41.
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