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  • Hue Jackson will not be fired.

    https://dawgpounddaily.com/2018/10/23/cleveland-browns-hue-jackson-says-job-safe/

    Jackson was given a long-term commitment by Haslam, possibly 5 years to produce a dynasty. Again, take it from the king of this board, the one who teaches you all....Hue is here for awhile. If he gets fired during the bye week or before, I will jump in Lake Erie wearing lipstick and pantyhose.

  • Hue Jackson will not be fired.

    https://dawgpounddaily.com/2018/10/23/cleveland-browns-hue-jackson-says-job-safe/

    Jackson was given a long-term commitment by Haslam, possibly 5 years to produce a dynasty. Again, take it from the king of this board, the one who teaches you all....Hue is here for awhile. If he gets fired during the bye week or before, I will jump in Lake Erie wearing lipstick and pantyhose.

    @ghoolie said:

    Hue Jackson will not be fired.

    https://dawgpounddaily.com/2018/10/23/cleveland-browns-hue-jackson-says-job-safe/

    Jackson was given a long-term commitment by Haslam, possibly 5 years to produce a dynasty. Again, take it from the king of this board, the one who teaches you all....Hue is here for awhile. If he gets fired during the bye week or before, I will jump in Lake Erie wearing lipstick and pantyhose.

    In the NFL, isn’t the vote of confidence about the same as the kiss of death?

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Has anyone started a thread about which coach might take Hue's place? 

    Yes, sort of.    The name I suggested on another thread was Mike Munchak.  Others had other names.

    But if you want a thread like that...just start one. No one stopping you.

    @the-gipper said:

    Yes, sort of.    The name I suggested on another thread was Mike Munchak.  Others had other names.

    But if you want a thread like that...just start one. No one stopping you.

    Yeah, I know. I guess I saw I see the Fire Hue Jackson thread and think that might be the place to go. Munchak is interesting though. 

  • Hue Jackson will not be fired.

    https://dawgpounddaily.com/2018/10/23/cleveland-browns-hue-jackson-says-job-safe/

    Jackson was given a long-term commitment by Haslam, possibly 5 years to produce a dynasty. Again, take it from the king of this board, the one who teaches you all....Hue is here for awhile. If he gets fired during the bye week or before, I will jump in Lake Erie wearing lipstick and pantyhose.

    @ghoolie said:

    Hue Jackson will not be fired.

    https://dawgpounddaily.com/2018/10/23/cleveland-browns-hue-jackson-says-job-safe/

    Jackson was given a long-term commitment by Haslam, possibly 5 years to produce a dynasty. Again, take it from the king of this board, the one who teaches you all....Hue is here for awhile. If he gets fired during the bye week or before, I will jump in Lake Erie wearing lipstick and pantyhose.

    Now we will hold you to that?

  • It’s good these owners have sense and have the ability to block out the outside noise. 

    You would think year after year, with a revolving door for head coaches, that we as fans would have it figured out by now.

    I just wonder how it’s gonna for us fans when Hue does/doesn’t get fired ?

  • Munchak? Great player... good OL coach...

    HC? Not so much... unless you are looking for Forest Gregg 2.0.

  • Munchak? Great player... good OL coach...

    HC? Not so much... unless you are looking for Forest Gregg 2.0.

    @tour2ma said:

    Munchak? Great player... good OL coach...

    HC? Not so much... unless you are looking for Forest Gregg 2.0.

    How would you have a clue other than your own opinion based on nothing 

  • It’s good these owners have sense and have the ability to block out the outside noise. 

    You would think year after year, with a revolving door for head coaches, that we as fans would have it figured out by now.

    I just wonder how it’s gonna for us fans when Hue does/doesn’t get fired ?

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    It’s good these owners have sense and have the ability to block out the outside noise. 

    You would think year after year, with a revolving door for head coaches, that we as fans would have it figured out by now.

    I just wonder how it’s gonna for us fans when Hue does/doesn’t get fired ?

    Well, that is up to the individual fan, isn't it? Browns fans are zealots and often create their own fake reality, so when actual reality hits they fabricate all kind of crap to save face for being so far off base.

    Case.in point, Hoorta and Flugel actually thoughts Haley and Williams (coffee fetchers) were brought in to keep Hue in check.

    Now Haley is in jeopardy, and if Williams D doesn't stop the bleeding, he will be in the hot seat as well.

    Look at the logic, my friend. It really implies heavily.that Hue is not going anywhere, any time soon.

    1) 3 Years Ago Hue was the hottest HC prospect in the NFL. When he came to Cleveland he held ALL THE CARDS. Haslam/the Browns were in a bad place with a bad reputation for not sticking with coaches.

    Do you not see the high probability that Hue made sure he had some longevity BEFORE he agreed to come here? 

    2) If you are firing a guy you do it at 1-31.

    3) You don' t get a new OC, DC and #1 Qb and then fire a HC leaving everyone in limbo. It just isn't done.

    4) Hue is 2-4-1 with a Steeler tie and a win over the Ravens. Excitement and i terest in the Browns is high and most feel the Browns are improved and will win 4 or 5 games

    You don't fire a HC who takes you from 0 wins to 5 in 1 year.

    Hue is safe.

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    It’s good these owners have sense and have the ability to block out the outside noise. 

    You would think year after year, with a revolving door for head coaches, that we as fans would have it figured out by now.

    I just wonder how it’s gonna for us fans when Hue does/doesn’t get fired ?

    Well, that is up to the individual fan, isn't it? Browns fans are zealots and often create their own fake reality, so when actual reality hits they fabricate all kind of crap to save face for being so far off base.

    Case.in point, Hoorta and Flugel actually thoughts Haley and Williams (coffee fetchers) were brought in to keep Hue in check.

    Now Haley is in jeopardy, and if Williams D doesn't stop the bleeding, he will be in the hot seat as well.

    Look at the logic, my friend. It really implies heavily.that Hue is not going anywhere, any time soon.

    1) 3 Years Ago Hue was the hottest HC prospect in the NFL. When he came to Cleveland he held ALL THE CARDS. Haslam/the Browns were in a bad place with a bad reputation for not sticking with coaches.

    Do you not see the high probability that Hue made sure he had some longevity BEFORE he agreed to come here? 

    2) If you are firing a guy you do it at 1-31.

    3) You don' t get a new OC, DC and #1 Qb and then fire a HC leaving everyone in limbo. It just isn't done.

    4) Hue is 2-4-1 with a Steeler tie and a win over the Ravens. Excitement and i terest in the Browns is high and most feel the Browns are improved and will win 4 or 5 games

    You don't fire a HC who takes you from 0 wins to 5 in 1 year.

    Hue is safe.

    @ghoolie said:

    Well, that is up to the individual fan, isn't it? Browns fans are zealots and often create their own fake reality, so when actual reality hits they fabricate all kind of crap to save face for being so far off base.

    Now Haley is in jeopardy, and if Williams D doesn't stop the bleeding, he will be in the hot seat as well.

    Look at the logic, my friend. It really implies heavily.that Hue is not going anywhere, any time soon.

    I just think fans of any fan base can’t handle losing and want to place blame on coaches for not getting Ws, when in reality, our coaches are coaching a lot of high level college atheletes with limited NFL gameday WINNING experience.

    Yes, Haley makes some questionable calls, so hopefully HC Jackson will step in and “override” or “veto” some play selections, especially in critical situations.

    And tbh, I think G. Williams is blitz happy, but I do like the type of coach he is and I don’t wanna see anybody fired until next year at the least. 

    Besides some of the referees. Lol (Hugo Cruz)

  • @ghoolie said:

    Well, that is up to the individual fan, isn't it? Browns fans are zealots and often create their own fake reality, so when actual reality hits they fabricate all kind of crap to save face for being so far off base.

    Now Haley is in jeopardy, and if Williams D doesn't stop the bleeding, he will be in the hot seat as well.

    Look at the logic, my friend. It really implies heavily.that Hue is not going anywhere, any time soon.

    I just think fans of any fan base can’t handle losing and want to place blame on coaches for not getting Ws, when in reality, our coaches are coaching a lot of high level college atheletes with limited NFL gameday WINNING experience.

    Yes, Haley makes some questionable calls, so hopefully HC Jackson will step in and “override” or “veto” some play selections, especially in critical situations.

    And tbh, I think G. Williams is blitz happy, but I do like the type of coach he is and I don’t wanna see anybody fired until next year at the least. 

    Besides some of the referees. Lol (Hugo Cruz)

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    I just think fans of any fan base can’t handle losing and want to place blame on coaches for not getting Ws, when in reality, our coaches are coaching a lot of high level college atheletes with limited NFL gameday WINNING experience.

    Yes, Haley makes some questionable calls, so hopefully HC Jackson will step in and “override” or “veto” some play selections, especially in critical situations.

    And tbh, I think G. Williams is blitz happy, but I do like the type of coach he is and I don’t wanna see anybody fired until next year at the least. 

    Besides some of the referees. Lol (Hugo Cruz)

    All valid points. I just don't see Hue being fired anytime soon. Certainly not this season.

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    I just think fans of any fan base can’t handle losing and want to place blame on coaches for not getting Ws, when in reality, our coaches are coaching a lot of high level college atheletes with limited NFL gameday WINNING experience.

    Yes, Haley makes some questionable calls, so hopefully HC Jackson will step in and “override” or “veto” some play selections, especially in critical situations.

    And tbh, I think G. Williams is blitz happy, but I do like the type of coach he is and I don’t wanna see anybody fired until next year at the least. 

    Besides some of the referees. Lol (Hugo Cruz)

    All valid points. I just don't see Hue being fired anytime soon. Certainly not this season.

    @ghoolie said:

    All valid points. I just don't see Hue being fired anytime soon. Certainly not this season.

    IF the BROWNS do not beat pizzburgh they will be 2-5-1 half way through the season good chance then they will NOT win 5 or more Hue will be gone if any good candidate comes along probably even before week 15 or 16......if available, for sure as the playoffs move along.

    But he is a nice guy.

  • @ghoolie said:

    All valid points. I just don't see Hue being fired anytime soon. Certainly not this season.

    IF the BROWNS do not beat pizzburgh they will be 2-5-1 half way through the season good chance then they will NOT win 5 or more Hue will be gone if any good candidate comes along probably even before week 15 or 16......if available, for sure as the playoffs move along.

    But he is a nice guy.

    @mjp28 said:

    IF the BROWNS do not beat pizzburgh they will be 2-5-1 half way through the season good chance then they will NOT win 5 or more Hue will be gone if any good candidate comes along probably even before week 15 or 16......if available, for sure as the playoffs move along.

    So... a fired NFL retread?

    No, thanks...

  • @mjp28 said:

    IF the BROWNS do not beat pizzburgh they will be 2-5-1 half way through the season good chance then they will NOT win 5 or more Hue will be gone if any good candidate comes along probably even before week 15 or 16......if available, for sure as the playoffs move along.

    So... a fired NFL retread?

    No, thanks...

    @tour2ma said:

    So... a fired NFL retread?

    No, thanks...

    It's a tough call either way but when do you say enough is enough and try to bring on another coach......if available...... or try yet another season with a super young team and the same HC.

    In 2 1/2 seadons they're looking at 3 wins IF they wait until next year with no improvement they might have 5 or 6 total wins in 3 years. One thing for sure they will not compete in 2018 and may in 2019 with a good draft and other position magic. Maybe more decent candidates might actually consider Cleveland. 

    They started 2-4-1 not 4-2-1 and a tough schedule left, I have no problem with a HC job search beginning whenever. (oh I'm not available, prior commitments 😆).

    I guessed 5-10-1 before the season, I hope they can hit that.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Munchak? Great player... good OL coach...

    HC? Not so much... unless you are looking for Forest Gregg 2.0.

    How would you have a clue other than your own opinion based on nothing 

    @the-gipper said:

    How would you have a clue other than your own opinion based on nothing 

    Just like yours? He (Munchak) was pretty mediocre as a head coach of the Titans. Record not appreciably better than either Haley or Williams in that regard. 

  • @mjp28 said:

    IF the BROWNS do not beat pizzburgh they will be 2-5-1 half way through the season good chance then they will NOT win 5 or more Hue will be gone if any good candidate comes along probably even before week 15 or 16......if available, for sure as the playoffs move along.

    So... a fired NFL retread?

    No, thanks...

    @tour2ma said:

    So... a fired NFL retread?

    No, thanks...

    An awful lot of "fired NFL retreads" went on to become pretty good coaches.  Let's start with Bill Belichick.    Andy Reid, Chuck Knox,  Dan Reeves. Mike Shanahan.  Jon Gruden.  Etc.

  • @tour2ma said:

    So... a fired NFL retread?

    No, thanks...

    An awful lot of "fired NFL retreads" went on to become pretty good coaches.  Let's start with Bill Belichick.    Andy Reid, Chuck Knox,  Dan Reeves. Mike Shanahan.  Jon Gruden.  Etc.

    @the-gipper said:

    An awful lot of "fired NFL retreads" went on to become pretty good coaches.  Let's start with Bill Belichick.    Andy Reid, Chuck Knox,  Dan Reeves. Mike Shanahan.  Jon Gruden.  Etc.

    Once they've won somewhere else, they don't win again with a new team.

  • @the-gipper said:

    An awful lot of "fired NFL retreads" went on to become pretty good coaches.  Let's start with Bill Belichick.    Andy Reid, Chuck Knox,  Dan Reeves. Mike Shanahan.  Jon Gruden.  Etc.

    Once they've won somewhere else, they don't win again with a new team.

    @mark-o said:

    Once they've won somewhere else, they don't win again with a new team.

    Do you mean a championship?  Or Championship contending:

    Parcells took both the Giants and Pats to the SB.

    Reeves took the Broncos, then the Falcons to the SB.

    Marty had both the Chiefs and Chargers in contention.

    Knox had muliple division titles with the Rams, and an even better winning pct. with the Seahawks.

    Weeb Ewbank won titles with both the Colts and the Jets! (maybe the only guy to do so)

    D-ick Vermeil lost a SB with the Eagles...and won one with the Rams.

    I guess you have to establish the parameters of what you mean by "winning".

  • @mark-o said:

    Once they've won somewhere else, they don't win again with a new team.

    Do you mean a championship?  Or Championship contending:

    Parcells took both the Giants and Pats to the SB.

    Reeves took the Broncos, then the Falcons to the SB.

    Marty had both the Chiefs and Chargers in contention.

    Knox had muliple division titles with the Rams, and an even better winning pct. with the Seahawks.

    Weeb Ewbank won titles with both the Colts and the Jets! (maybe the only guy to do so)

    D-ick Vermeil lost a SB with the Eagles...and won one with the Rams.

    I guess you have to establish the parameters of what you mean by "winning".

    @the-gipper said:

    Do you mean a championship?  Or Championship contending:

    Parcells took both the Giants and Pats to the SB.

    Reeves took the Broncos, then the Falcons to the SB.

    Marty had both the Chiefs and Chargers in contention.

    Knox had muliple division titles with the Rams, and an even better winning pct. with the Seahawks.

    Weeb Ewbank won titles with both the Colts and the Jets! (maybe the only guy to do so)

    finger Vermeil lost a SB with the Eagles...and won one with the Rams.

    I guess you have to establish the parameters of what you mean by "winning".

    Winning a championship.   Only 2 in history have done it with two different franchises.    

    Say no to retreads.  Find the next young Sean McVey and let him and Baker win a lot of games for the next decade together.

  • @mjp28 said:

    IF the BROWNS do not beat pizzburgh they will be 2-5-1 half way through the season good chance then they will NOT win 5 or more Hue will be gone if any good candidate comes along probably even before week 15 or 16......if available, for sure as the playoffs move along.

    So... a fired NFL retread?

    No, thanks...

    @tour2ma said:

    So... a fired NFL retread?

    No, thanks...

    jim tressel

  • @tour2ma said:

    So... a fired NFL retread?

    No, thanks...

    jim tressel

    @atom said:

    jim tressel

    Way too old.