QB Prognostication
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Zombo said:
Wilson, Wentz, Watson, Mayfield, Mahomes.
Goff.
Can I have six?
Z
Sure
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Trubisky, Mahomes, Goff, Wentz, Watson. I don't believe Mayfield will last 3 full.years.
Why?
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Why?Why?
Are you serious Gip?
It's almost sad watching some of you continually fall for his trolling. It's like shooting fish in a barrel for him.
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Why?Why?
Are you serious Gip?
It's almost sad watching some of you continually fall for his trolling. It's like shooting fish in a barrel for him.
Are you serious Gip?
It's almost sad watching some of you continually fall for his trolling. It's like shooting fish in a barrel for him.
I think it is reasonable to ask why he believes that Baker Mayfield would not last in this league......if he is legitimate in his beliefs, which I understand are 98% non legitimate.
Besides, I am free to converse with whomever and in whatever manner I choose to on this forum. I don't need a lecture on that.
Beyond that, I consider him the fish where I am the one doing the shooting.
And further beyond that.....where is your contribution to the point of this thread......or are now just about being the a member of the Ghoolie Gestapo?
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I think Baker has the "it factor", I really DO. QB in the NFL has a lot to do with obviously talent, but also work ethic and intelligence. I believe Baker has these attributes in spades. He's exceptionally accurate throwing the ball, he's a hellish competitor and worker, and he can make difficult throws. I'll be the first to admit that even though I'm excited about what Baker is showing us, I still want more. If my team goes to overtime 4 times, I want my QB to win those games. Now I realize it's a team game, but you know what I mean.
Baker throws the ball accurately, and that might sound stupid to say, but it's so vital in the NFL because the windows are smaller. Look at the drop Njoku had on our first 3rd down last week. Perfect pass, where only he could get it, hits both hands and....DOINK! Drop, punt. As I said in an earlier post, Baker leads the league in drops on 3rd down. That might be the Brownsiest stat I've ever heard of.
Baker has definitely missed some big plays and he's made his share of mistakes, I get that. The 4th down fumble was inexcusable. He missed a wide open deep ball on our first 3rd down in overtime. He missed Perriman on a deep cross that would've been huge. He missed Duke on an easy check down on 3rd down. He had many other mistakes, but I love the fact I know he'll watch the film. I know he'll work on his errors. I know he has the ability and the drive to get the job done. We're starting rookies at LT, WR, RB, and obviously QB. Not ideal, but they all have talent, and perhaps they'll grow together.
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My 5:
Newton and Luck....will both have Brees/Rodgers like status at that point.
Baker, hopefully
Trubisky
Mahomes
Bonus: Goff
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Why?Why?
Are you serious Gip?
It's almost sad watching some of you continually fall for his trolling. It's like shooting fish in a barrel for him.
Are you serious Gip?
It's almost sad watching some of you continually fall for his trolling. It's like shooting fish in a barrel for him.
Actually I look at it the other way around who the big fat fish in the barrel is.
Fun sport when it gets boring around here.
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Now on young quarterbacks Watson looked really good Thursday night especially with Hopkins and that promising young WR Fuller.
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Why?
I think the Browns continued failure to acquire playmakers on offense is going rp.get this kid beat up.
I hope I am wrong but I think the Chargers exposed the Browns dink and dump offense such that teams are going to play tight, over pursuit the short game continually turn Baker into a running QB, a Tarkenton. Something he is, as we are seeing, is not good at.
I thonk he is going to have a very tough time tomorrow. Plus, Dorsey the Dorkey gor rid of our best blockong back.(59 million under the cap)
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Why?
I think the Browns continued failure to acquire playmakers on offense is going rp.get this kid beat up.
I hope I am wrong but I think the Chargers exposed the Browns dink and dump offense such that teams are going to play tight, over pursuit the short game continually turn Baker into a running QB, a Tarkenton. Something he is, as we are seeing, is not good at.
I thonk he is going to have a very tough time tomorrow. Plus, Dorsey the Dorkey gor rid of our best blockong back.(59 million under the cap)
I think the Browns continued failure to acquire playmakers on offense is going rp.get this kid beat up.
I hope I am wrong but I think the Chargers exposed the Browns dink and dump offense such that teams are going to play tight, over pursuit the short game continually turn Baker into a running QB, a Tarkenton. Something he is, as we are seeing, is not good at.
I thonk he is going to have a very tough time tomorrow. Plus, Dorsey the Dorkey gor rid of our best blockong back.(59 million under the cap)
Mayfield is a playmaker Callaway is a playmaker Chubb is a play maker Njoku is a playmaker
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Who's got the talent left to follow them? 1)Goff 2)Cousins 3)Maholmes 4)Watson 5)Wentz 6)Ryan 7)Wilson 8)Stafford 9)Luck 10)Newton 11)Baker maybe falls into the Mariota,Jimmy G.Dalton,Winston,bitch'tits Mitch group? Landry/Duke our the only proven playmakers on this offense..sure in 5 years a lot of things could change for every team..but hopefully we got a jump start drafting the base of Myles,Njoku,Peppers,Ogunjobi,Chubb,Callaway,Avery,Schobert,Ward..the drafting seems far better than what it has been..Time/injuries tick fast...
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I think the Browns continued failure to acquire playmakers on offense is going rp.get this kid beat up.
I hope I am wrong but I think the Chargers exposed the Browns dink and dump offense such that teams are going to play tight, over pursuit the short game continually turn Baker into a running QB, a Tarkenton. Something he is, as we are seeing, is not good at.
I thonk he is going to have a very tough time tomorrow. Plus, Dorsey the Dorkey gor rid of our best blockong back.(59 million under the cap)
Mayfield is a playmaker Callaway is a playmaker Chubb is a play maker Njoku is a playmaker
Mayfield is a playmaker Callaway is a playmaker Chubb is a play maker Njoku is a playmaker
No, they arent. None of them would start.for the Steelers Pats, Rams, et..al.
Did you see the cat that hit the winning HR last night? HE is a playmaker. The Browns are 3-35-1 specifically because they have NO PLAYMAKERS.
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Mayfield is a playmaker Callaway is a playmaker Chubb is a play maker Njoku is a playmaker
No, they arent. None of them would start.for the Steelers Pats, Rams, et..al.
Did you see the cat that hit the winning HR last night? HE is a playmaker. The Browns are 3-35-1 specifically because they have NO PLAYMAKERS.
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In 5 years.
NFC EAST- Wentz then Dak
NFC North- Stafford, Kirk, Rodgers, then Trubisky
NFC South- Cam, Winston
NFC WEST- Goff, Wilson, Jimmy G, Rosen
AFC EAST- Darnold, Allen
AFC North- Baker, Flacco, Jackson, Rudolph
AFC SOUTH- Watson, Luck, Bortles, Mariota
AFC West- Mahomes, Carr
Top 5: in alphabetical order (as a lot has to do with what is surrounded by): 1. Goff, Mahomes, Newton, Watson, Wentz
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I predict BM gets wrecked. Steelers 2nd in sacks...we last in sacks given up.
Hopefully he survives to lead us to 4-12
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I swear after thinking about it. Baker reminds me of Bubby Brister. I hope Im wrong.?
Not even close. Brister could barely hit the broadside of a barn door
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I must be watching a different Trubisky. He’s not getting any better and take away one half against the Bucs he pretty much blows
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Not even close. Brister could barely hit the broadside of a barn door
Absolutely 100% true. But it was good for a chuckle. I didn't realize that he kicked around for so long with 5 different teams. A perenial backup.
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV Career 99 75 37-38-0 1207 2212 54.6 14445 81 3.7 78 3.5 90 6.5 5.7 12.0 145.9 72.3 193 1625 5.33 4.54 8.0 9 11 44 7 yrs PIT 61 57 28-29-0 776 1477 52.5 10104 51 3.5 57 3.9 90 6.8 5.8 13.0 165.6 69.8 145 1261 5.45 4.50 8.9 6 8 36 3 yrs DEN 10 4 4-0-0 96 160 60.0 1121 10 6.3 6 3.8 48 7.0 6.6 11.7 112.1 86.5 7 49 6.42 6.00 4.2 5 2 yrs PHI 17 10 4-6-0 232 385 60.3 2412 16 4.2 6 1.6 58 6.3 6.4 10.4 141.9 85.8 24 187 5.44 5.56 5.9 2 2 7 1 yr MIN 2 0 10 20 50.0 82 0 0.0 1 5.0 20 4.1 1.9 8.2 41.0 40.0 1 6 3.62 1.48 4.8 0 1 yr NYJ 9 4 1-3-0 93 170 54.7 726 4 2.4 8 4.7 32 4.3 2.6 7.8 80.7 53.7 16 122 3.25 1.74 8.6 1 1 -4 1986 24 PIT qb 6 2 2 0-2-0 21 60 35.0 291 0 0.0 2 3.3 58 4.9 3.4 13.9 145.5 37.6 6 57 3.55 2.18 9.1 1 1987 25 PIT 6 2 0 4 12 33.3 20 0 0.0 3 25.0 10 1.7 -9.6 5.0 10.0 2.8 2 14 0.43 -9.21 14.3 0 1988 26 PIT QB 6 13 13 4-9-0 175 370 47.3 2634 11 3.0 14 3.8 89 7.1 6.0 15.1 202.6 65.3 36 292 5.77 4.76 8.9 1 1 10 1989 27 PIT QB 6 14 14 8-6-0 187 342 54.7 2365 9 2.6 10 2.9 79 6.9 6.1 12.6 168.9 73.1 45 452 4.94 4.25 11.6 1 1 8 1990 28 PIT QB 6 16 16 9-7-0 223 387 57.6 2725 20 5.2 14 3.6 90 7.0 6.4 12.2 170.3 81.6 28 213 6.05 5.50 6.7 2 2 10 1991 29 PIT qb 6 8 8 5-3-0 103 190 54.2 1350 9 4.7 9 4.7 65 7.1 5.9 13.1 168.8 72.9 15 145 5.88 4.78 7.3 0 2 4 1992 30 PIT qb 6 6 4 2-2-0 63 116 54.3 719 2 1.7 5 4.3 42 6.2 4.6 11.4 119.8 61.0 13 88 4.89 3.46 10.1 2 2 3 1993 31 PHI QB 6 10 8 4-4-0 181 309 58.6 1905 14 4.5 5 1.6 58 6.2 6.3 10.5 190.5 84.9 19 148 5.36 5.52 5.8 2 2 6 1994 32 PHI qb 6 7 2 0-2-0 51 76 67.1 507 2 2.6 1 1.3 53 6.7 6.6 9.9 72.4 89.1 5 39 5.78 5.72 6.2 1 1995 33 NYJ qb 6 9 4 1-3-0 93 170 54.7 726 4 2.4 8 4.7 32 4.3 2.6 7.8 80.7 53.7 16 122 3.25 1.74 8.6 1 1 -4 1997 35 DEN 6 1 0 6 9 66.7 48 0 0.0 0 0.0 15 5.3 5.3 8.0 48.0 79.9 0 0 5.33 5.33 0.0 0 1998 36 DEN qb 6 7 4 4-0-0 78 131 59.5 986 10 7.6 3 2.3 48 7.5 8.0 12.6 140.9 99.0 7 49 6.79 7.26 5.1 5 1999 37 DEN 6 2 0 12 20 60.0 87 0 0.0 3 15.0 11 4.4 -2.4 7.3 43.5 30.6 0 0 4.35 -2.40 0.0 0 2000 38 MIN 6 2 0 10 20 50.0 82 0 0.0 1 5.0 20 4.1 1.9 8.2 41.0 40.0 1 6 3.62 1.48 4.8 0
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