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    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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    Watching the raiders tonight.  It is obvious they are not trying to win.

    Tanking in the NBA is normal. Baseball not so much. It takes way to long to get a 1st round pick to the majors

    But the NFL would be the best league to tank for. They only play 16 games. Most teams can’t win unless they have a good QB

    I have a feeling that this is going to be the norm from now on

    The teams that need a QB will lose until they get a QB that they don’t have to pay for 5 years

    And after 5 ears the Qb will either price himself out of the team, or the team will have already paid him 

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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      Watching the raiders tonight.  It is obvious they are not trying to win.

      Tanking in the NBA is normal. Baseball not so much. It takes way to long to get a 1st round pick to the majors

      But the NFL would be the best league to tank for. They only play 16 games. Most teams can’t win unless they have a good QB

      I have a feeling that this is going to be the norm from now on

      The teams that need a QB will lose until they get a QB that they don’t have to pay for 5 years

      And after 5 ears the Qb will either price himself out of the team, or the team will have already paid him 

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      @browns149 said:

      Watching the raiders tonight.  It is obvious they are not trying to win.

      Tanking in the NBA is normal. Baseball not so much. It takes way to long to get a 1st round pick to the majors

      But the NFL would be the best league to tank for. They only play 16 games. Most teams can’t win unless they have a good QB

      I have a feeling that this is going to be the norm from now on

      The teams that need a QB will lose until they get a QB that they don’t have to pay for 5 years

      And after 5 ears the Qb will either price himself out of the team, or the team will have already paid him 

      What's revolting is looking at the current score- San Fran 31- Raiders 3 we couldn't even beat that POS team in overtime. The 49ers are playing a QB I never even heard of. So what gives? 

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        gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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        Shanny new schooling old school chuckie😉..Early but Oddly your bottom 6 are...9'ers.NYG.Oak.Buff.Zona.Brns...They all have QB's but maybe NYG's. 

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          The Raiders have become the second team to BLATANTLY try to lose

          The Browns did it for the last 2 years. No one said anything. People even felt sorry for Hue. But then the Browns hired a “football” man...and all of a sudden we should start winning.

          Just get both the owners out of the way, and let the FOOTBALL people make the decisions, we might start to win

          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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            Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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            This is embarrassing. 

            Atleast we will have a top 5 pick

            "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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              The Raiders have become the second team to BLATANTLY try to lose

              The Browns did it for the last 2 years. No one said anything. People even felt sorry for Hue. But then the Browns hired a “football” man...and all of a sudden we should start winning.

              Just get both the owners out of the way, and let the FOOTBALL people make the decisions, we might start to win

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              @browns149 said:

              Just get both the owners out of the way, and let the FOOTBALL people make the decisions, we might start to win

              The problem is, that's not gonna happen.  Jimmuh is a dope and can't / won't keep his meddling fingers out of the kitchen.

              He ran Pilot Flying J into a pubic disgrace.  He made the Browns a disgrace.   And he changed the uniforms into a joke.  Aside from that, he's done a masterful job.

              BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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                @browns149 said:

                Just get both the owners out of the way, and let the FOOTBALL people make the decisions, we might start to win

                The problem is, that's not gonna happen.  Jimmuh is a dope and can't / won't keep his meddling fingers out of the kitchen.

                He ran Pilot Flying J into a pubic disgrace.  He made the Browns a disgrace.   And he changed the uniforms into a joke.  Aside from that, he's done a masterful job.

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                Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                @orion said:

                The problem is, that's not gonna happen.  Jimmuh is a dope and can't / won't keep his meddling fingers out of the kitchen.

                He ran Pilot Flying J into a pubic disgrace.  He made the Browns a disgrace.   And he changed the uniforms into a joke.  Aside from that, he's done a masterful job.

                Then we are SCREWED

                "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                  @orion said:

                  The problem is, that's not gonna happen.  Jimmuh is a dope and can't / won't keep his meddling fingers out of the kitchen.

                  He ran Pilot Flying J into a pubic disgrace.  He made the Browns a disgrace.   And he changed the uniforms into a joke.  Aside from that, he's done a masterful job.

                  Then we are SCREWED

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                  @browns149 said:

                  Then we are SCREWED

                  UNLESS.................he actually listens to Dorsey....instead of The Homeless Guy.

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                    @browns149 said:

                    Then we are SCREWED

                    UNLESS.................he actually listens to Dorsey....instead of The Homeless Guy.

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                    @orion said:

                    UNLESS.................he actually listens to Dorsey....instead of The Homeless Guy.

                    Jimmy has proven he won’t let the football decisions go

                    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                      @orion said:

                      UNLESS.................he actually listens to Dorsey....instead of The Homeless Guy.

                      Jimmy has proven he won’t let the football decisions go

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                      @browns149 said:

                      Jimmy has proven he won’t let the football decisions go

                      I know.  But we can hope...

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                        OK it's final, the crappy 49ers blew the even crappier Raiders out 34-3. So, as a Browns fan this is seriously embarrassing we couldn't even beat them in overtime....  

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                          CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS
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                          Nick Mullen, undrafted in 2017 from Southern, looked pretty damn sharp in his debut. Started out 6/6 with a TD. And Shanahan clearly can call a game.

                          I don’t think the Raiders wanted it to go down like that.

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                            The Raiders have become the second team to BLATANTLY try to lose

                            The Browns did it for the last 2 years. No one said anything. People even felt sorry for Hue. But then the Browns hired a “football” man...and all of a sudden we should start winning.

                            Just get both the owners out of the way, and let the FOOTBALL people make the decisions, we might start to win

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                            @browns149 said:

                            The Raiders have become the second team to BLATANTLY try to lose

                            The Browns did it for the last 2 years. No one said anything. People even felt sorry for Hue. But then the Browns hired a “football” man...and all of a sudden we should start winning.

                            Just get both the owners out of the way, and let the FOOTBALL people make the decisions, we might start to win

                            3rd team, the Colts were somewhat open they were tanking for Luck. 

                            But yes, Haslam needs out of the way... Sadly it doesn't seem like he will be changing. 

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                              Watching the raiders tonight.  It is obvious they are not trying to win.

                              Tanking in the NBA is normal. Baseball not so much. It takes way to long to get a 1st round pick to the majors

                              But the NFL would be the best league to tank for. They only play 16 games. Most teams can’t win unless they have a good QB

                              I have a feeling that this is going to be the norm from now on

                              The teams that need a QB will lose until they get a QB that they don’t have to pay for 5 years

                              And after 5 ears the Qb will either price himself out of the team, or the team will have already paid him 

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                              @browns149 said:

                              Watching the raiders tonight.  It is obvious they are not trying to win.

                              Tanking in the NBA is normal. Baseball not so much. It takes way to long to get a 1st round pick to the majors

                              But the NFL would be the best league to tank for. They only play 16 games. Most teams can’t win unless they have a good QB

                              I have a feeling that this is going to be the norm from now on

                              The teams that need a QB will lose until they get a QB that they don’t have to pay for 5 years

                              And after 5 ears the Qb will either price himself out of the team, or the team will have already paid him 

                              Your assumption is only valid if the team is dedicated to building through the draft - such as Haslam has stated numerous times since he bought the Browns.  (therefore, implied 'no costly free agent signings')

                              From what I've read, there's only one guy available in the draft next year who could be an NFL "franchise" QB.  Even if they get him, it's pretty long odds that he actually IS a "franchise" QB  - ironically appropriate for a team moving to Vegas.

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                                Watching the raiders tonight.  It is obvious they are not trying to win.

                                Tanking in the NBA is normal. Baseball not so much. It takes way to long to get a 1st round pick to the majors

                                But the NFL would be the best league to tank for. They only play 16 games. Most teams can’t win unless they have a good QB

                                I have a feeling that this is going to be the norm from now on

                                The teams that need a QB will lose until they get a QB that they don’t have to pay for 5 years

                                And after 5 ears the Qb will either price himself out of the team, or the team will have already paid him 

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                                mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                                @browns149 said:

                                Watching the raiders tonight.  It is obvious they are not trying to win.

                                Tanking in the NBA is normal. Baseball not so much. It takes way to long to get a 1st round pick to the majors

                                But the NFL would be the best league to tank for. They only play 16 games. Most teams can’t win unless they have a good QB........

                                I normally don't buy into these conspiracy-type things anymore than bigfoot or who really killed Kennedy and all of that -but- it might be tempting......not that I'm saying they (whoever they is/are) did anything. But how many decision makers or key players nedd to be involved (a DB blows a coverage and a guy runs 80 yards for a TD)?  A nearby $1.5 Billion stadium getting ready, want to make a big splash?

                                A rookie QB steps in and just lights it up, one side or maybe both involved....if they could prove it, if someone talked it could ruin the sport.

                                And I heard just tonight the River's Casino in Pittsburgh a short drive from me will be up and running for sports gambling in November. What now especially in basketball just a few guys needed to shave points, a backer puts a few million on one side, pays off 2 or 3 guys?

                                NAH, that could never happen.  Never. 😉

                                GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                                  @browns149 said:

                                  Watching the raiders tonight.  It is obvious they are not trying to win.

                                  Tanking in the NBA is normal. Baseball not so much. It takes way to long to get a 1st round pick to the majors

                                  But the NFL would be the best league to tank for. They only play 16 games. Most teams can’t win unless they have a good QB........

                                  I normally don't buy into these conspiracy-type things anymore than bigfoot or who really killed Kennedy and all of that -but- it might be tempting......not that I'm saying they (whoever they is/are) did anything. But how many decision makers or key players nedd to be involved (a DB blows a coverage and a guy runs 80 yards for a TD)?  A nearby $1.5 Billion stadium getting ready, want to make a big splash?

                                  A rookie QB steps in and just lights it up, one side or maybe both involved....if they could prove it, if someone talked it could ruin the sport.

                                  And I heard just tonight the River's Casino in Pittsburgh a short drive from me will be up and running for sports gambling in November. What now especially in basketball just a few guys needed to shave points, a backer puts a few million on one side, pays off 2 or 3 guys?

                                  NAH, that could never happen.  Never. 😉

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                                  @mjp28 said:

                                  I normally don't buy into these conspiracy-type things anymore than bigfoot or who really killed Kennedy and all of that -but- it might be tempting......not that I'm saying they (whoever they is/are) did anything. But how many decision makers or key players nedd to be involved (a DB blows a coverage and a guy runs 80 yards for a TD)?  A nearby $1.5 Billion stadium getting ready, want to make a big splash?

                                  A rookie QB steps in and just lights it up, one side or maybe both involved....if they could prove it, if someone talked it could ruin the sport.

                                  And I heard just tonight the River's Casino in Pittsburgh a short drive from me will be up and running for sports gambling in November. What now especially in basketball just a few guys needed to shave points, a backer puts a few million on one side, pays off 2 or 3 guys?

                                  NAH, that could never happen.  Never. 😉

                                  Won't be but a few years before gambling pads are available at every seat in every stadium, let alone on your phones.

                                  So, when you see those shots of QBs on the sidelines with a pad, you can be sure they'll be checking the current line, placing a bet, then trotting out for the next offensive series...  ?

                                  So, yeah...  greatest thing to happen to sports since sliced bread...

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                                    @mjp28 said:

                                    I normally don't buy into these conspiracy-type things anymore than bigfoot or who really killed Kennedy and all of that -but- it might be tempting......not that I'm saying they (whoever they is/are) did anything. But how many decision makers or key players nedd to be involved (a DB blows a coverage and a guy runs 80 yards for a TD)?  A nearby $1.5 Billion stadium getting ready, want to make a big splash?

                                    A rookie QB steps in and just lights it up, one side or maybe both involved....if they could prove it, if someone talked it could ruin the sport.

                                    And I heard just tonight the River's Casino in Pittsburgh a short drive from me will be up and running for sports gambling in November. What now especially in basketball just a few guys needed to shave points, a backer puts a few million on one side, pays off 2 or 3 guys?

                                    NAH, that could never happen.  Never. 😉

                                    Won't be but a few years before gambling pads are available at every seat in every stadium, let alone on your phones.

                                    So, when you see those shots of QBs on the sidelines with a pad, you can be sure they'll be checking the current line, placing a bet, then trotting out for the next offensive series...  ?

                                    So, yeah...  greatest thing to happen to sports since sliced bread...

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                                    @brownpile said:

                                    Won't be but a few years before gambling pads are available at every seat in every stadium, let alone on your phones.

                                    So, when you see those shots of QBs on the sidelines with a pad, you can be sure they'll be checking the current line, placing a bet, then trotting out for the next offensive series...  ?

                                    So, yeah...  greatest thing to happen to sports since sliced bread...

                                    Cell phone and a password, while you're at it you can buy points or bet on the next play pass or run. 😆

                                    ......and then you can sleep in your car because you're now totally broke.

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                                      @browns149 said:

                                      Just get both the owners out of the way, and let the FOOTBALL people make the decisions, we might start to win

                                      The problem is, that's not gonna happen.  Jimmuh is a dope and can't / won't keep his meddling fingers out of the kitchen.

                                      He ran Pilot Flying J into a pubic disgrace.  He made the Browns a disgrace.   And he changed the uniforms into a joke.  Aside from that, he's done a masterful job.

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                                      gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                                      @orion said:

                                       Jimmuh is a dope and can't / won't keep his meddling fingers out of the kitchen.

                                      @browns149 said:

                                      Jimmy has proven he won’t let the football decisions go

                                      @vikingdawg said:

                                       But yes, Haslam needs out of the way... Sadly it doesn't seem like he will be changing. 

                                      who do you feel made the choices of putting Williams & Kitchens in position over maybe Sampese or Saunders? Am not even sure Jimmy H. knew who Ryan Lindley was ?.. 

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                                        @orion said:

                                         Jimmuh is a dope and can't / won't keep his meddling fingers out of the kitchen.

                                        @browns149 said:

                                        Jimmy has proven he won’t let the football decisions go

                                        @vikingdawg said:

                                         But yes, Haslam needs out of the way... Sadly it doesn't seem like he will be changing. 

                                        who do you feel made the choices of putting Williams & Kitchens in position over maybe Sampese or Saunders? Am not even sure Jimmy H. knew who Ryan Lindley was ?.. 

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                                        @gumby73 said:

                                        who do you feel made the choices of putting Williams & Kitchens in position over maybe Sampese or Saunders? Am not even sure Jimmy H. knew who Ryan Lindley was ?.. 

                                        ...and therein lies the hope.  The hope that he will listen to Dorsey.....

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                                          Raiders have 3 first round picks ....at least the draft will be fun for them ...... as will Raiders fans playing the first pick draft game 🙂

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