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  • @gumby73 said:

    once again, your fooling yourself Mr.Roboto 

      more throwing of Styx with no Stones ?.. have they seen our 2nd halfs? give me Haley & Baker over 9 points..

    I'll be so happy if you're right!! 

    OK, I'll break it down. I think there's a 90% we lose (bare with me). I believe the Ravens are the better team. I give them the edge in defense, offense (because we have a rookie QB, but it's CLOSE), and especially, ESPECIALLY special teams. I mean, we're a flat out dumpster fire on special teams, and the Ravens don't eff around. 

    But...BUT....we have a chance to win (I know I previously said we have no chance, but even I know there's always a prayer). I tell you one thing, we need to catch the darn ball. We also need to punch it in if/when we get to the red zone. No question. We won't win with FG attempts, promise. We also need to quash the turnovers on offense. Smart passes, catching the ball, recovering a fumble if we put it on the ground. All that needs to go our way. 

    What I'd really love? Another home victory. A home, DIVISION win. That would be two W's in a row, at home, and maybe...just maybe...start to develop a real homefield advantage. THAT would be cool. But am I expecting it? Sadly no. Whereas I believe we're better than last year, I don't think we're good enough to slay a giant. And make no mistake, the Ravens are a giant right now. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

     I don't think we're good enough to slay a giant. And make no mistake, the Ravens are a giant right now. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

     Soooooooo....yeah. 

    Nine points. Second half. *mic drop*

    OV2.gif      good game day morning from the Baker drum core.. 9 points? got it...

  • @jiggins7919 said:

     I don't think we're good enough to slay a giant. And make no mistake, the Ravens are a giant right now. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

     Soooooooo....yeah. 

    Nine points. Second half. *mic drop*

    OV2.gif      good game day morning from the Baker drum core.. 9 points? got it...

    @gumby73 said:

    OV2.gif      good game day morning from the Baker drum core.. 9 points? got it...

    I'm allowing myself to hope, which is both annoying and fun. Lol. I get that we are what our record says we are, but I'm not so sure we're a bad team anymore. I'm allowing myself to think what would happen if we won. If we got that statement victory. One win could seriously turn everything around. Man, that would be the shizz. 

  • 45 MEMBERS HAVE VOTED

    1. 1. How many games will the Browns win in 2018

      • 1-4 12  <----  4 maybe 5 now?
      • 5-8 27 <---- may have lost their shot at 7, 8 wins now with the early close calls
      • 9-12 5  <----- the dreamers keep dreamin' 
      • 13  1
  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Whereas I believe we're better than last year, I don't think we're good enough to slay a giant. And make no mistake, the Ravens are a giant right now. 

    Exactly who have the Ravens beaten this year that makes you think they are a "giant"?

    The Bills at home...? The Broncos at home...? The Steelers...? Who looked like CRAP on Sunday Night Football? 

    And don't forget, they got beat pretty bad at Cincy in Week 2. 

    I'm not saying it's a given we win, but you are seriously giving the Ravens too much credit IMHO. If we can do what the Bengals did then we should win the game.

    Compared with Cincy, our offenses are close in yards, we are the better running team, they have scored more points but remember 2 1/2 of our games were with T.Taylor at QB. Baker is averaging over 10 points per quarter since he took over. Also, our D ranks better than Cincy in almost every category. My point is, if they beat them, no reason we can't. 

    I think our D can force Flacco into making mistakes, much like they did with Ben in week 1. I think our offense can score on them. Much like the last 4 weeks it is just about who makes less mistakes and who can make more plays.

    @thenew23 said:

    Exactly who have the Ravens beaten this year that makes you think they are a "giant"?

    The Bills at home...? The Broncos at home...? The Steelers...? Who looked like CRAP on Sunday Night Football? 

    And don't forget, they got beat pretty bad at Cincy in Week 2. 

    I'm not saying it's a given we win, but you are seriously giving the Ravens too much credit IMHO. If we can do what the Bengals did then we should win the game.

    Compared with Cincy, our offenses are close in yards, we are the better running team, they have scored more points but remember 2 1/2 of our games were with T.Taylor at QB. Baker is averaging over 10 points per quarter since he took over. Also, our D ranks better than Cincy in almost every category. My point is, if they beat them, no reason we can't. 

    I think our D can force Flacco into making mistakes, much like they did with Ben in week 1. I think our offense can score on them. Much like the last 4 weeks it is just about who makes less mistakes and who can make more plays.

    I TOLD YOU!!!

  • 8-7-1 missing a wild card by half a game

  • Well, revisiting this thread I think I will just  stick with my original vote of 1-4 wins. The coaches screwup of not just plowing Hyde into the endzone when we were 1st and 10 on the one has convinced me that our coaches are just plain stupid and will cause at least half of the losses all on their own. I thought we were a legitimate 7-8 win team this year, but divided by 2 that makes it around 4 wins at most. Throw in all the recent injuries and it remains right there.

  • 45 MEMBERS HAVE VOTED

    1. 1. How many games will the Browns win in 2018

      • 1-4 12  <----  4 maybe 5 now?
      • 5-8 27 <---- may have lost their shot at 7, 8 wins now with the early close calls
      • 9-12 5  <----- the dreamers keep dreamin' 
      • 13  1

    @mjp28 said:

    45 MEMBERS HAVE VOTED

    1. 1. How many games will the Browns win in 2018

      • 1-4 12  <----  4 maybe 5 now?
      • 5-8 27 <---- may have lost their shot at 7, 8 wins now with the early close calls
      • 9-12 5  <----- the dreamers keep dreamin' 
      • 13  1

    So do the coaching changes (firing Hue and Hayley and their newly promoted replacements) increase or decrease the odds for those picking in the popular 5-8 slot? Or does the 1-4 slot look more appealing now?

  • @mjp28 said:

    45 MEMBERS HAVE VOTED

    1. 1. How many games will the Browns win in 2018

      • 1-4 12  <----  4 maybe 5 now?
      • 5-8 27 <---- may have lost their shot at 7, 8 wins now with the early close calls
      • 9-12 5  <----- the dreamers keep dreamin' 
      • 13  1

    So do the coaching changes (firing Hue and Hayley and their newly promoted replacements) increase or decrease the odds for those picking in the popular 5-8 slot? Or does the 1-4 slot look more appealing now?

    @tinythinker said:

    So do the coaching changes (firing Hue and Hayley and their newly promoted replacements) increase or decrease the odds for those picking in the popular 5-8 slot? Or does the 1-4 slot look more appealing now?

    I'm thinking my 4-12 prediction before the season is looking pretty good. 

    I think the Browns might have two more wins in them, to finish with a 4-11-1 record. 

  • @tinythinker said:

    So do the coaching changes (firing Hue and Hayley and their newly promoted replacements) increase or decrease the odds for those picking in the popular 5-8 slot? Or does the 1-4 slot look more appealing now?

    I'm thinking my 4-12 prediction before the season is looking pretty good. 

    I think the Browns might have two more wins in them, to finish with a 4-11-1 record. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm thinking my 4-12 prediction before the season is looking pretty good. 

    I think the Browns might have two more wins in them, to finish with a 4-11-1 record. 

    I'd rather we went 4-4 to close out the season. I would like to be wrong on my 1-4 wins vote.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I'm thinking my 4-12 prediction before the season is looking pretty good. 

    I think the Browns might have two more wins in them, to finish with a 4-11-1 record. 

    I'd rather we went 4-4 to close out the season. I would like to be wrong on my 1-4 wins vote.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I'd rather we went 4-4 to close out the season. I would like to be wrong on my 1-4 wins vote.

    Sure, so would I. 

    I just don't see it. 

  • Did this poll in 2015 and 2017 (missed in 2016), and as per usual you can't always effectively judge a team only 4 games into a season because there is so much time left for change (for better or worse). Still, you can get a much better idea of where you think the season is headed than when you were relying only on preseason observations. So what does it look like from here?

    Is this at last a real rebuilding season? Will flags and bounces start tipping games the Browns' way? Have the rookies going to find their footing even more in pro ball as the season developed?

    Or is Lucy about to punk Charlie Brown *again* as the lights dim on a promising season?

    Your call.

    @tinythinker said:

    Did this poll in 2015 and 2017 (missed in 2016), and as per usual you can't always effectively judge a team only 4 games into a season because there is so much time left for change (for better or worse). Still, you can get a much better idea of where you think the season is headed than when you were relying only on preseason observations. So what does it look like from here?

    Is this at last a real rebuilding season? Will flags and bounces start tipping games the Browns' way? Have the rookies going to find their footing even more in pro ball as the season developed?

    Or is Lucy about to punk Charlie Brown *again* as the lights dim on a promising season?

    Your call.

    Okay, you started THIS thread before Ghoolie told you there is no Santa Claus.   And today somebody really needs to show everyone in more than 1 thread that he HAS LEARNED!  

    Lighten up Nipples!

  • @tinythinker said:

    Did this poll in 2015 and 2017 (missed in 2016), and as per usual you can't always effectively judge a team only 4 games into a season because there is so much time left for change (for better or worse). Still, you can get a much better idea of where you think the season is headed than when you were relying only on preseason observations. So what does it look like from here?

    Is this at last a real rebuilding season? Will flags and bounces start tipping games the Browns' way? Have the rookies going to find their footing even more in pro ball as the season developed?

    Or is Lucy about to punk Charlie Brown *again* as the lights dim on a promising season?

    Your call.

    Okay, you started THIS thread before Ghoolie told you there is no Santa Claus.   And today somebody really needs to show everyone in more than 1 thread that he HAS LEARNED!  

    Lighten up Nipples!

    @flugel said:

    Okay, you started THIS thread before Ghoolie told you there is no Santa Claus.   And today somebody really needs to show everyone in more than 1 thread that he HAS LEARNED!  

    Lighten up Nipples!

    ???

    It's an annual thread. Has nothing to do with any poster. Sooo... do you gave a point or prediction about the win-loss record? Do recent events affect your expectations for this season?

  • @flugel said:

    Okay, you started THIS thread before Ghoolie told you there is no Santa Claus.   And today somebody really needs to show everyone in more than 1 thread that he HAS LEARNED!  

    Lighten up Nipples!

    ???

    It's an annual thread. Has nothing to do with any poster. Sooo... do you gave a point or prediction about the win-loss record? Do recent events affect your expectations for this season?

    @tinythinker said:

    ???

    It's an annual thread. Has nothing to do with any poster. Sooo... do you gave a point or prediction about the win-loss record? Do recent events affect your expectations for this season?

    Try not to act like your screen name.  You're in another thread getting all Coyote Ugly chewing off the arm you put around this team.  Before I misplaced you as a troll or lost Sorority girl, I needed to see you're just frustrated and acting out in the other thread.  Wanted to be fair while busting your chops.

    I think I predicted 8-8 in a similar poll so I'll stick with that here.  I'm learning.  I'm only buying my rose colored glasses at the Dollar Store these days...

  • @tinythinker said:

    ???

    It's an annual thread. Has nothing to do with any poster. Sooo... do you gave a point or prediction about the win-loss record? Do recent events affect your expectations for this season?

    Try not to act like your screen name.  You're in another thread getting all Coyote Ugly chewing off the arm you put around this team.  Before I misplaced you as a troll or lost Sorority girl, I needed to see you're just frustrated and acting out in the other thread.  Wanted to be fair while busting your chops.

    I think I predicted 8-8 in a similar poll so I'll stick with that here.  I'm learning.  I'm only buying my rose colored glasses at the Dollar Store these days...

    @flugel said:

      I'm only buying my rose colored glasses at the Dollar Store these days...

    Well at least it's not far from the basement to the bargain basement.?

  • @tinythinker said:

    ???

    It's an annual thread. Has nothing to do with any poster. Sooo... do you gave a point or prediction about the win-loss record? Do recent events affect your expectations for this season?

    Try not to act like your screen name.  You're in another thread getting all Coyote Ugly chewing off the arm you put around this team.  Before I misplaced you as a troll or lost Sorority girl, I needed to see you're just frustrated and acting out in the other thread.  Wanted to be fair while busting your chops.

    I think I predicted 8-8 in a similar poll so I'll stick with that here.  I'm learning.  I'm only buying my rose colored glasses at the Dollar Store these days...

    @flugel said:

    Try not to act like your screen name. 

    ...a troll or lost Sorority girl

    Can't I be all three? ? It's your call. ?

    @flugel said:

    You're in another thread getting all Coyote Ugly chewing off the arm you put around this team.  I needed to see you're just frustrated and acting out in the other thread.  Wanted to be fair while busting your chops.

    So... you could reply in that thread or specifically call it out here? I don't know which thread you mean.

    In one recent thread I posted that I suspect the Browns would have found a way to blow it if they had drafted the current Chiefs star quarterback, and in another I posted that I hope the Browns put up a fight today but that they will likely lose to those same Chiefs. Not sure what the issue is with either.

    I've said many time in the past that I generally like to wait and see before passing judgement on major Browns off-season decisions or going all in on thinking a new season will be awesome or awful. Hence this annual poll. I waited and saw what they did with their talent under Coach Jackson for 2 1/2 seasons. I used that informed perspective to render an opinion on what might have happened if Mahomes had come to Cleveland instead of KC (short version: they would found a way to blow it somehow).

    If you think I am wrong and that Hue & Co. would have done an excellent job grooming and developing Mahomes that is your opinion and you have every right to it. I don't see it myself. I ended that convo with Dutch Oven by writing, "In any case we grabbed three great rookies this season, so hopefully the past is prologue rather than destiny." In other words, the Browns now have someone with Mahomes-type potential so hopefully we get new staff that can take advantage of that fact.

    As for the blandly written prediction that the Chiefs are likely to win today, that doesn't seem like a "Browns suck" rant to me. It's just true that the Browns are in a challenging place right now, compounded by having just lost two coaches, and they are going up against a team that has it together and is rolling this season.

    But if it was all chops-bustin' at least I got to clarify for anyone who might have actually got worked up over my short takes.

    @flugel said:

    I think I predicted 8-8 in a similar poll so I'll stick with that here.  I'm learning.  I'm only buying my rose colored glasses at the Dollar Store these days...

    Hmm... bold call ?   It would pretty wild if the Browns pulled it together in the second half of the season but the Dollar stores always have that strong, weird, rubber-plastic smell that seems strongest near the food section ?

  • @flugel said:

    Try not to act like your screen name. 

    ...a troll or lost Sorority girl

    Can't I be all three? ? It's your call. ?

    @flugel said:

    You're in another thread getting all Coyote Ugly chewing off the arm you put around this team.  I needed to see you're just frustrated and acting out in the other thread.  Wanted to be fair while busting your chops.

    So... you could reply in that thread or specifically call it out here? I don't know which thread you mean.

    In one recent thread I posted that I suspect the Browns would have found a way to blow it if they had drafted the current Chiefs star quarterback, and in another I posted that I hope the Browns put up a fight today but that they will likely lose to those same Chiefs. Not sure what the issue is with either.

    I've said many time in the past that I generally like to wait and see before passing judgement on major Browns off-season decisions or going all in on thinking a new season will be awesome or awful. Hence this annual poll. I waited and saw what they did with their talent under Coach Jackson for 2 1/2 seasons. I used that informed perspective to render an opinion on what might have happened if Mahomes had come to Cleveland instead of KC (short version: they would found a way to blow it somehow).

    If you think I am wrong and that Hue & Co. would have done an excellent job grooming and developing Mahomes that is your opinion and you have every right to it. I don't see it myself. I ended that convo with Dutch Oven by writing, "In any case we grabbed three great rookies this season, so hopefully the past is prologue rather than destiny." In other words, the Browns now have someone with Mahomes-type potential so hopefully we get new staff that can take advantage of that fact.

    As for the blandly written prediction that the Chiefs are likely to win today, that doesn't seem like a "Browns suck" rant to me. It's just true that the Browns are in a challenging place right now, compounded by having just lost two coaches, and they are going up against a team that has it together and is rolling this season.

    But if it was all chops-bustin' at least I got to clarify for anyone who might have actually got worked up over my short takes.

    @flugel said:

    I think I predicted 8-8 in a similar poll so I'll stick with that here.  I'm learning.  I'm only buying my rose colored glasses at the Dollar Store these days...

    Hmm... bold call ?   It would pretty wild if the Browns pulled it together in the second half of the season but the Dollar stores always have that strong, weird, rubber-plastic smell that seems strongest near the food section ?

    @tinythinker said:

    Can't I be all three? ? It's your call. ?

    So... you could reply in that thread or specifically call it out here? I don't know which thread you mean.

    In one recent thread I posted that I suspect the Browns would have found a way to blow it if they had drafted the current Chiefs star quarterback, and in another I posted that I hope the Browns put up a fight today but that they will likely lose to those same Chiefs. Not sure what the issue is with either.

    I've said many time in the past that I generally like to wait and see before passing judgement on major Browns off-season decisions or going all in on thinking a new season will be awesome or awful. Hence this annual poll. I waited and saw what they did with their talent under Coach Jackson for 2 1/2 seasons. I used that informed judgment to render an opinion on what might have happened if Mahomes had come to Cleveland instead of KC (short version: they would found a way to blow it somehow).

    If you think I am wrong and that Hue & Co. would have done an excellent job grooming and developing Mahomes that is your opinion and you have every right to it. I don't see it myself. I ended that convo with Dutch Oven by writing, "In any case we grabbed three great rookies this season, so hopefully the past is prologue rather than destiny." In other words, the Browns now have someone with Mahomes-type potential so hopefully we get new staff that can take advantage of that fact.

    As for the blandly written prediction that the Chiefs are likely to win today, that doesn't seem like a "Browns suck" rant to me. It's just true that the Browns are in a challenging place right now, compounded by having just lost two coaches, and they are going up against a team that has it together and is rolling this season.

    But if it was all chops-bustin' at least I got to clarify for anyone who might have actually got worked up over my short takes.

    Hmm... bold call ?   It would pretty wild if the Browns pulled it together in the second half of the season but the Dollar stores always have that strong, weird, rubber-plastic smell that seems strongest near the food section ?

    Fair enough... You even got this crotchety old bastard laughing.   Next time I'll make sure I don't have half an acre of coffee bean in me. 

  • @flugel said:

    Try not to act like your screen name. 

    ...a troll or lost Sorority girl

    Can't I be all three? ? It's your call. ?

    @flugel said:

    You're in another thread getting all Coyote Ugly chewing off the arm you put around this team.  I needed to see you're just frustrated and acting out in the other thread.  Wanted to be fair while busting your chops.

    So... you could reply in that thread or specifically call it out here? I don't know which thread you mean.

    In one recent thread I posted that I suspect the Browns would have found a way to blow it if they had drafted the current Chiefs star quarterback, and in another I posted that I hope the Browns put up a fight today but that they will likely lose to those same Chiefs. Not sure what the issue is with either.

    I've said many time in the past that I generally like to wait and see before passing judgement on major Browns off-season decisions or going all in on thinking a new season will be awesome or awful. Hence this annual poll. I waited and saw what they did with their talent under Coach Jackson for 2 1/2 seasons. I used that informed perspective to render an opinion on what might have happened if Mahomes had come to Cleveland instead of KC (short version: they would found a way to blow it somehow).

    If you think I am wrong and that Hue & Co. would have done an excellent job grooming and developing Mahomes that is your opinion and you have every right to it. I don't see it myself. I ended that convo with Dutch Oven by writing, "In any case we grabbed three great rookies this season, so hopefully the past is prologue rather than destiny." In other words, the Browns now have someone with Mahomes-type potential so hopefully we get new staff that can take advantage of that fact.

    As for the blandly written prediction that the Chiefs are likely to win today, that doesn't seem like a "Browns suck" rant to me. It's just true that the Browns are in a challenging place right now, compounded by having just lost two coaches, and they are going up against a team that has it together and is rolling this season.

    But if it was all chops-bustin' at least I got to clarify for anyone who might have actually got worked up over my short takes.

    @flugel said:

    I think I predicted 8-8 in a similar poll so I'll stick with that here.  I'm learning.  I'm only buying my rose colored glasses at the Dollar Store these days...

    Hmm... bold call ?   It would pretty wild if the Browns pulled it together in the second half of the season but the Dollar stores always have that strong, weird, rubber-plastic smell that seems strongest near the food section ?

    @tinythinker said:

    ?but the Dollar stores always have that strong, weird, rubber-plastic smell that seems strongest near the food section ?

    You must shop at he one where Ghoolie does his accordion gigs.??