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  • tiamat63 tiamat63T Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Week One Done One Month Later One Year In Very Popular
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    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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    Channeling my inner Randy Jackson - that's gonna be a no from me, Dawg.  

    edit:  Along the way while in Denver he went 5-0 only to promptly dismantle a good offense with Culter, Marshall and Royal.     Naaaah. 

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      What is the preference ...

      Defensive HC with a young up and coming OC and keep/replace Williams

      Offensive HC and keep Williams

      Offensive HC and replace Williams

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      @darren15 said:

      What is the preference ...

      Defensive HC with a young up and coming OC and keep/replace Williams

      Offensive HC and keep Williams

      Offensive HC and replace Williams

      My initial preference is to go with a young offensive HC and keep Williams to run the defense.

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        @darren15 said:

        What is the preference ...

        Defensive HC with a young up and coming OC and keep/replace Williams

        Offensive HC and keep Williams

        Offensive HC and replace Williams

        My initial preference is to go with a young offensive HC and keep Williams to run the defense.

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        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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        @mark-o said:

        My initial preference is to go with a young offensive HC and keep Williams to run the defense.

        Agree... that said...

        If GB is stupid enough to dismiss McCarthy, then I'm stupid enough to ignore my anti-retread bias. At 55 (in six days) McCarthy is still young-ish HC.

        @tiamat63 said:

        edit:  Along the way while in Denver he went 5-0 only to promptly dismantle a good offense with Culter, Marshall and Royal.     Naaaah. 

        ??? Josh was not the GM... was he???

        (Checked and he was not... plus Cutler never played QB for Josh.)

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          Since his Cleveland staff has Bill produced a successful HC? Other than O'Brien, who seems to have righted himself in HOU, I can't think of one. The problem is not their command of "X's and O's"... it's their leadership style or lack of one.

          The above plus Josh's dismal showing in Denver DQ him in my book.

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          @tour2ma said:

          Since his Cleveland staff has Bill produced a successful HC? Other than O'Brien, who seems to have righted himself in HOU, I can't think of one. The problem is not their command of "X's and O's"... it's their leadership style or lack of one.

          The above plus Josh's dismal showing in Denver DQ him in my book.

          I'm not saying McDaniels should be a candidate... but was his coaching bad in Denver or was it the fact that he was given way too much power and GM Josh McDaniels railroaded HC Josh McDaniels? 

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            @mark-o said:

            My initial preference is to go with a young offensive HC and keep Williams to run the defense.

            Agree... that said...

            If GB is stupid enough to dismiss McCarthy, then I'm stupid enough to ignore my anti-retread bias. At 55 (in six days) McCarthy is still young-ish HC.

            @tiamat63 said:

            edit:  Along the way while in Denver he went 5-0 only to promptly dismantle a good offense with Culter, Marshall and Royal.     Naaaah. 

            ??? Josh was not the GM... was he???

            (Checked and he was not... plus Cutler never played QB for Josh.)

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            tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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            @tour2ma said:

            Agree... that said...

            If GB is stupid enough to dismiss McCarthy, then I'm stupid enough to ignore my anti-retread bias. At 55 (in six days) McCarthy is still young-ish HC.

            ??? Josh was not the GM... was he???

            (Checked and he was not... plus Cutler never played QB for Josh.)

            Josh was not GM, but he directly had a hand in dismantling that team in favor of his own guy that first off-season.  Which lead to Cutler demanding a trade because apparently McDaniels is the one pooper more insufferable than Jay Shmucking Cutler.                            That guy McD wanted ended up being Tebow, by the way.  

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              @tour2ma said:

              Agree... that said...

              If GB is stupid enough to dismiss McCarthy, then I'm stupid enough to ignore my anti-retread bias. At 55 (in six days) McCarthy is still young-ish HC.

              ??? Josh was not the GM... was he???

              (Checked and he was not... plus Cutler never played QB for Josh.)

              Josh was not GM, but he directly had a hand in dismantling that team in favor of his own guy that first off-season.  Which lead to Cutler demanding a trade because apparently McDaniels is the one pooper more insufferable than Jay Shmucking Cutler.                            That guy McD wanted ended up being Tebow, by the way.  

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              CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by
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              @tiamat63 said:

              Josh was not GM, but he directly had a hand in dismantling that team in favor of his own guy that first off-season.  Which lead to Cutler demanding a trade because apparently McDaniels is the one pooper more insufferable than Jay Shmucking Cutler.                            That guy McD wanted ended up being Tebow, by the way.  

              I’m sure a lot of this fan base probably wanted Tebow at one point, too

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                Since his Cleveland staff has Bill produced a successful HC? Other than O'Brien, who seems to have righted himself in HOU, I can't think of one. The problem is not their command of "X's and O's"... it's their leadership style or lack of one.

                The above plus Josh's dismal showing in Denver DQ him in my book.

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                gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                @tour2ma said:

                Since his Cleveland staff has Bill produced a successful HC? Other than O'Brien, who seems to have righted himself in HOU, I can't think of one. The problem is not their command of "X's and O's"... 

                would Jim Schwartz DC at Eagles qualify? Was Schwartz not with Bill at Cleveland? i've read Jim maybe a fix in TB to build a defense.. Would not surprise me if Gregg takes a interview there also..

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                  @tiamat63 said:

                  Josh was not GM, but he directly had a hand in dismantling that team in favor of his own guy that first off-season.  Which lead to Cutler demanding a trade because apparently McDaniels is the one pooper more insufferable than Jay Shmucking Cutler.                            That guy McD wanted ended up being Tebow, by the way.  

                  I’m sure a lot of this fan base probably wanted Tebow at one point, too

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                  tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                  @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                  I’m sure a lot of this fan base probably wanted Tebow at one point, too

                  I never claimed the bulk of this fan base was intelligent.   Remember we had a great deal of people cheer for Manziel when picked.  

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                    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                    I’m sure a lot of this fan base probably wanted Tebow at one point, too

                    I never claimed the bulk of this fan base was intelligent.   Remember we had a great deal of people cheer for Manziel when picked.  

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                    CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS
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                    @tiamat63 said:

                    I never claimed the bulk of this fan base was intelligent.   Remember we had a great deal of people cheer for Manziel when picked.  

                    We just needed a QB so bad for so long our fan base would’ve cheered for any guy picked and Manziel appeared to be the most talented at the time.

                    This year, I figured it to be Darnold and I liked Josh Rosen’s arm a lot. That being said, I trusted Dorsey with Mayfield and especially after Kirk Herbstreit predicted the Browns would take Mayfield.

                    All of the QB prospects seemed to have a high ceiling this year, each in their own way.

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                      NFL Network's Ian Rapoport named Patriots OC Josh McDaniels as a potential candidate for the Browns' head-coaching vacancy.

                      McDaniels is one of several candidates the Browns are considering. Per Rapoport, the Browns could also pursue Baker Mayfield's college coach Lincoln Riley (Rapsheet believes Riley will draw interest from multiple teams) as well as current Packers coach Mike McCarthy and Vikings OC John DeFilippo, who once served as Cleveland's offensive coordinator. Despite leaving Indianapolis at the altar last offseason, McDaniels is reportedly "open to head-coaching opportunities." Until the Browns find a permanent solution, coaching responsibilities will fall in the hands of defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.
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                      @beare said:

                      NFL Network's Ian Rapoport named Patriots OC Josh McDaniels as a potential candidate for the Browns' head-coaching vacancy.

                      McDaniels is one of several candidates the Browns are considering. Per Rapoport, the Browns could also pursue Baker Mayfield's college coach Lincoln Riley (Rapsheet believes Riley will draw interest from multiple teams) as well as current Packers coach Mike McCarthy and Vikings OC John DeFilippo, who once served as Cleveland's offensive coordinator. Despite leaving Indianapolis at the altar last offseason, McDaniels is reportedly "open to head-coaching opportunities." Until the Browns find a permanent solution, coaching responsibilities will fall in the hands of defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.

                      Nah- after his antics screwing Indy- What's the public service announcement with the Pirate and the parrot?  "AWK- He can't be trusted".  

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                        @tour2ma said:

                        Since his Cleveland staff has Bill produced a successful HC? Other than O'Brien, who seems to have righted himself in HOU, I can't think of one. The problem is not their command of "X's and O's"... 

                        would Jim Schwartz DC at Eagles qualify? Was Schwartz not with Bill at Cleveland? i've read Jim maybe a fix in TB to build a defense.. Would not surprise me if Gregg takes a interview there also..

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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        @gumby73 said:

                        would Jim Schwartz DC at Eagles qualify? Was Schwartz not with Bill at Cleveland? i've read Jim maybe a fix in TB to build a defense.. Would not surprise me if Gregg takes a interview there also..

                        When I said, "Since his Cleveland staff...", the exception I had in mind was Saban. While there are others, Schwartz would not be among them. The Lions won just over a third of their games with Jim as their HC.

                        @tiamat63 said:

                        That guy McD wanted ended up being Tebow, by the way. 

                        I'd forgotten that.

                        Still... of all the reasons to be anti-Josh, having a hand in ditching Cutler would not be one that I'd list.

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                          flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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                          That sounds like a real vanilla report to fill dead air. Dorsey has some clues as to who he wants to be head coach next season. And he’s most likely gonna keep a tight lid on it till the end of this season

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                            gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                            I keep hearing "bring in a coach that appeals to Bakers game". The photo "yuk' in my mind always comes up Adam Case 😕.. Come on Gregg Williams!! Win some games.. 

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                              darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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                              My top 5 choices .....but that can change

                              1) Lincoln Riley

                              2) John DeFilippo

                              3) Dave Toub

                              4) David Shaw

                              5) Dan Campbell

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                                My top 5 choices .....but that can change

                                1) Lincoln Riley

                                2) John DeFilippo

                                3) Dave Toub

                                4) David Shaw

                                5) Dan Campbell

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                                tinythinkerT tinythinker wrote on last edited by
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                                @darren15 said:

                                My top 5 choices .....but that can change

                                1) Lincoln Riley

                                2) John DeFilippo

                                3) Dave Toub

                                4) David Shaw

                                5) Dan Campbell

                                Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...

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                                  Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger wrote on last edited by
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                                  Defilippo is by far my favorite.

                                  Then Schwatz

                                  Then Carmichael New Orleans OC

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                                    Hell yes to Josh McDaniels, all day every day. Get him Dorsey!

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                                      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                      I'll toss my hat into the ring for Eric Bieniemy.

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                                        I think Pat Shurmur might be available come the end of the season... ?

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                                          Eric M. Bieniemy or deflippo be my top 2 choice with a strong d cord.

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