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  • @tour2ma said:

    Is this a trick question?

    Chances are we will keep Baker but I bet they waste another pick on a QB. I am just sick of the same thing every couple years, every other team turns Sheet around in 4 or so years, we are no better than we were in 1999.

    Can't be co-winners? 😉

    @medicineman said:

    Chances are we will keep Baker but I bet they waste another pick on a QB. I am just sick of the same thing every couple years, every other team turns Sheet around in 4 or so years, we are no better than we were in 1999.

    Day 3 doesn't count...

  • @tour2ma said:

    Is this a trick question?

    Chances are we will keep Baker but I bet they waste another pick on a QB. I am just sick of the same thing every couple years, every other team turns Sheet around in 4 or so years, we are no better than we were in 1999.

    @medicineman said:

    Chances are we will keep Baker but I bet they waste another pick on a QB. I am just sick of the same thing every couple years, every other team turns Sheet around in 4 or so years, we are no better than we were in 1999.

    Browns were 2 and 14 in 1999 now they are 3-6-1 after 10 games. they are better by 1.5 games already 

  • @medicineman said:

    Chances are we will keep Baker but I bet they waste another pick on a QB. I am just sick of the same thing every couple years, every other team turns Sheet around in 4 or so years, we are no better than we were in 1999.

    Browns were 2 and 14 in 1999 now they are 3-6-1 after 10 games. they are better by 1.5 games already 

    @the-gipper said:

    Browns were 2 and 14 in 1999 now they are 3-6-1 after 10 games. they are better by 1.5 games already 

    I meant by building a team. We have players but have no team. We need guys who been together for 3 or more seasons together, build a franchise.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Quit being a dumbass what it means is that we have some real young talent on this team now that is a good omen for the future. 

    What Shmucking future? You really think the new coach will want to keep a QB he didn't draft? It is the never ending story and nothing ever changes. It is a garbage award and the only people that even know such an award exists is Browns fans, This award means less than the pre season wins we had. Speaking of we all thought they were going to be a good omen for the future as well but NOT.

    @medicineman said:

    What Shmucking future? You really think the new coach will want to keep a QB he didn't draft? It is the never ending story and nothing ever changes. It is a garbage award and the only people that even know such an award exists is Browns fans, This award means less than the pre season wins we had. Speaking of we all thought they were going to be a good omen for the future as well but NOT.

    damn dude go root for buffalo

  • @medicineman said:

    What Shmucking future? You really think the new coach will want to keep a QB he didn't draft? It is the never ending story and nothing ever changes. It is a garbage award and the only people that even know such an award exists is Browns fans, This award means less than the pre season wins we had. Speaking of we all thought they were going to be a good omen for the future as well but NOT.

    damn dude go root for buffalo

    @atom said:

    damn dude go root for buffalo

    I been a Browns fan for decades pal, Just being real. What good is any award if you didn't win? It is the same as a trophy the losing team gets in school so they don't feel left out 

  • @atom said:

    damn dude go root for buffalo

    I been a Browns fan for decades pal, Just being real. What good is any award if you didn't win? It is the same as a trophy the losing team gets in school so they don't feel left out 

    @medicineman said:

    I been a Browns fan for decades pal, Just being real. What good is any award if you didn't win? It is the same as a trophy the losing team gets in school so they don't feel left out 

    Congratulations! You have won the BB Participation Award ? . Wear it proudly to the next game.?️‍♀️?

  • @tour2ma said:

    Is this a trick question?

    Chances are we will keep Baker but I bet they waste another pick on a QB. I am just sick of the same thing every couple years, every other team turns Sheet around in 4 or so years, we are no better than we were in 1999.

    @medicineman said:

    Chances are we will keep Baker but I bet they waste another pick on a QB. I am just sick of the same thing every couple years, every other team turns Sheet around in 4 or so years, we are no better than we were in 1999.

    Are you high? Why would they waste another pick on a QB?

    maybe a late rounder, especially if/after Tyrod leaves.

  • @medicineman said:

    Chances are we will keep Baker but I bet they waste another pick on a QB. I am just sick of the same thing every couple years, every other team turns Sheet around in 4 or so years, we are no better than we were in 1999.

    Are you high? Why would they waste another pick on a QB?

    maybe a late rounder, especially if/after Tyrod leaves.

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Are you high? Why would they waste another pick on a QB?

    maybe a late rounder, especially if/after Tyrod leaves.

    No bro, I am just looking at what every single coach we ever had has done when they get hired. I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Are you high? Why would they waste another pick on a QB?

    maybe a late rounder, especially if/after Tyrod leaves.

    No bro, I am just looking at what every single coach we ever had has done when they get hired. I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr

    @medicineman said:

    I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1

    If we're doing decent without a #1 even though we pay someone like a #1 then... we don't need one.  We have too many actual needs on DL and OL before wasting a #1 pick on a luxury who touches the ball 6 plays a game.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Quit being a dumbass what it means is that we have some real young talent on this team now that is a good omen for the future. 

    What Shmucking future? You really think the new coach will want to keep a QB he didn't draft? It is the never ending story and nothing ever changes. It is a garbage award and the only people that even know such an award exists is Browns fans, This award means less than the pre season wins we had. Speaking of we all thought they were going to be a good omen for the future as well but NOT.

    @medicineman said:

    What Shmucking future? You really think the new coach will want to keep a QB he didn't draft? It is the never ending story and nothing ever changes. It is a garbage award and the only people that even know such an award exists is Browns fans, This award means less than the pre season wins we had. Speaking of we all thought they were going to be a good omen for the future as well but NOT.

    Why wouldn't the new coach keep a good young QB?   The Rams got rid of their coach and the new coach was someone who was able to come in and make the #1 overall draft pick QB a better player.   Goff looked like a total bust under Fisher.....new coach and suddenly he's a good QB.

    I would think the new coach (if its not Williams anyways) is going to be a guy who can work with the skill set that Baker has and make him better.

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Are you high? Why would they waste another pick on a QB?

    maybe a late rounder, especially if/after Tyrod leaves.

    No bro, I am just looking at what every single coach we ever had has done when they get hired. I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr

    @medicineman said:

    No bro, I am just looking at what every single coach we ever had has done when they get hired. I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr

    The coach that Dorsey hires is going to be willing to work with Baker. Period. You're nuts if you think otherwise. You just don't- and I don't think it's ever happened- dump the #1 overall pick after one season. Even monumental bust Jamarcus Russell got three seasons with the Raiders.

    Mayfield is leading all the other rookie QBs in stats- and if you want a comparison, just look at what Deshone Kizer (didn't) do and compare that to the progress Baker is making this year. 

    Draft another QB? sure in the 5th round where we have three picks...  😁

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Are you high? Why would they waste another pick on a QB?

    maybe a late rounder, especially if/after Tyrod leaves.

    No bro, I am just looking at what every single coach we ever had has done when they get hired. I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr

    @medicineman said:

    No bro, I am just looking at what every single coach we ever had has done when they get hired. I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr

    I don't think it will be a WR.....I think a stud on defense would be more on the Radar.  But if they do go WR, there may be some out there.  Last year was the year to get a QB.....and a RB.  This next year seems to fit into the Browns needs:  WR/defense across the board.

    Top Prospects per CBS:

    1Nick BosaOhio St.JrDE16-4263

    2Ed OliverHoustonJrDT16-3292

    3Rashan GaryMichiganJrDT26-5283

    4Clelin FerrellClemsonJrDE26-4265

    5Deandre BakerGeorgiaSrCB15-11185

    6A.J. BrownOle MissJrWR16-1230

    7Dexter LawrenceClemsonJrDT36-4350

    8Greedy WilliamsLSUSophCB26-2182

    9Dre'Mont JonesOhio St.JrDT46-3286

    10Ryan FinleyNC StateSrQB16-4212

    11Anthony JohnsonBuffaloSrWR26-2210

    12David MontgomeryIowa St.JrRB15-11216

    13Raekwon DavisAlabamaJrDT56-7316

    14Brian BurnsFlorida St.JrDE36-5235

    15Te'von ConeyNotre DameSrILB16-1240

    16Jonah WilliamsAlabamaJrOT16-5301

    17Drew LockMissouriSrQB26-4225

    18Justice HillOklahoma St.JrRB25-10190

    19Noah FantIowaJrTE16-5241

    20Zach AllenBoston CollegeSrDE46-5285

    21Justin HerbertOregonJrQB36-6233

    22Bryce LoveStanfordSrRB35-10202

    23N'Keal HarryArizona St.JrWR36-4213

    24Devin WhiteLSUJrILB26-1240

    5Damien HarrisAlabamaSrRB45-11215

    26T.J. EdwardsWisconsinSrILB36-1242

    27Dalton RisnerKansas St.SrOT26-5308

    28Julian LoveNotre DameJrCB35-11193

    29Anfernee JenningsAlabamaJrILB46-3266

    30Jerry TilleryNotre DameSrDT66-7305

    31Trey AdamsWashingtonSrOT36-8316

    32Lukas DenisBoston CollegeSrFS15-11185

    33Ahmmon RichardsMiami (Fla.)JrWR46-1190

    34Kendall JosephClemsonSrILB56-0235

    35Greg LittleOle MissJrOT46-6325

    36Joe JacksonMiami (Fla.)JrDE56-5258

    37Jeffery SimmonsMiss. StateJrDT76-4300

    38Caleb WilsonUCLAJrTE26-4235

    39Ross PierschbacherAlabamaSrOG16-4309

    40David EdwardsWisconsinJrOT56-7315

    41Montez SweatMiss. StateSrOLB16-6245

    42Christian WilkinsClemsonSrDT86-4315

    43Deebo SamuelSouth CarolinaSrWR56-0210

    44Josh AllenKentuckySrOLB26-5260

    45Mitch HyattClemsonSrOT66-5310

    46Beau BenzschawelWisconsinSrOG26-6315

    47Chase WinovichMichiganSrDE66-3255

    48Jarrett StidhamAuburnJrQB46-3215

    49JJ Arcega-WhitesideStanfordSrWR66-3225

    50Rodney AndersonOklahomaJrRB56-1220

    51Marquise CopelandCincinnatiSrDT96-2287

    52Devin BushMichiganJrOLB35-11233

    53Marquise BrownOklahomaJrWR75-10168

    54Myles GaskinWashingtonSrRB65-10193

    55Kaden SmithStanfordJrTE36-5252

    56Bobby EvansOklahomaJrOT76-5301

    57Bryan EdwardsSouth CarolinaJrWR86-3220

    58Michael DeiterWisconsinSrOG36-6310

    59Stanley Morgan Jr.NebraskaSrWR96-1200

    60Jake BrowningWashingtonSrQB56-2210

    61Connor McGovernPenn St.JrOG46-5326

    62Juwan JohnsonPenn St.JrWR106-4231

    63Sutton SmithN. IllinoisJrOLB46-1237

    64Prince Tega WanoghoAuburnJrOT86-7307

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Are you high? Why would they waste another pick on a QB?

    maybe a late rounder, especially if/after Tyrod leaves.

    No bro, I am just looking at what every single coach we ever had has done when they get hired. I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr

    @medicineman said:

     I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr

    Stroll down this list, say last 4-5 years...  https://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=positions&position=WR (click position...than WR..than Go..)  many WR starters can be found in 2nd to 4th round   

  • @medicineman said:

     I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr

    Stroll down this list, say last 4-5 years...  https://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=positions&position=WR (click position...than WR..than Go..)  many WR starters can be found in 2nd to 4th round   

    @gumby73 said:

    Stroll down this list, say last 4-5 years...  https://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=positions&position=WR (click position...than WR..than Go..)  many WR starters can be found in 2nd to 4th round   

    Some real finds at WR may have played in run offenses or with poor QBs in college. The comforting thing is that we have folks now who can uncover those hidden treasures.

    Mike

  • @gumby73 said:

    Stroll down this list, say last 4-5 years...  https://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=positions&position=WR (click position...than WR..than Go..)  many WR starters can be found in 2nd to 4th round   

    Some real finds at WR may have played in run offenses or with poor QBs in college. The comforting thing is that we have folks now who can uncover those hidden treasures.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    Some real finds at WR may have played in run offenses or with poor QBs in college. The comforting thing is that we have folks now who can uncover those hidden treasures.

    Mike

    I really want to know the "behind the scenes" work of Elliot Wolfe? I think his work out weights more than Depot & Berry's work? That we have already seen...  

  • @canton-mike said:

    Some real finds at WR may have played in run offenses or with poor QBs in college. The comforting thing is that we have folks now who can uncover those hidden treasures.

    Mike

    I really want to know the "behind the scenes" work of Elliot Wolfe? I think his work out weights more than Depot & Berry's work? That we have already seen...  

    @gumby73 said:

    I really want to know the "behind the scenes" work of Elliot Wolfe? I think his work out weights more than Depot & Berry's work? That we have already seen...  

    In addition to Wolfe's lineage, I once read that he is very good at finding "hidden gems" & Highsmith is good in the later rounds. We are Blessed with this FO!

    Mike

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Are you high? Why would they waste another pick on a QB?

    maybe a late rounder, especially if/after Tyrod leaves.

    No bro, I am just looking at what every single coach we ever had has done when they get hired. I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr

    @medicineman said:

    No bro, I am just looking at what every single coach we ever had has done when they get hired. I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr

    It’s just the underwhelming years of rooting for this franchise catching up with you.

    I’m feeling like the days of the “Browns being the Browns” are coming to an end.

     A #1 WR is a priority. We do have some solid depth at the position right now though. 

  • @medicineman said:

    No bro, I am just looking at what every single coach we ever had has done when they get hired. I hope we draft a stud wr with our first pick, we are doing decent without a number 1 wr rt now. Jarvis is no #1 Higgins is a #3 at best , We need a great hands and speed number 1 wr

    It’s just the underwhelming years of rooting for this franchise catching up with you.

    I’m feeling like the days of the “Browns being the Browns” are coming to an end.

     A #1 WR is a priority. We do have some solid depth at the position right now though. 

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    It’s just the underwhelming years of rooting for this franchise catching up with you.

    I’m feeling like the days of the “Browns being the Browns” are coming to an end.

     A #1 WR is a priority. We do have some solid depth at the position right now though. 

    But....as I have said elsewhere,  that WR may be only like 5th in the rank of priorities....exactly because there may be some depth at that position now.

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    It’s just the underwhelming years of rooting for this franchise catching up with you.

    I’m feeling like the days of the “Browns being the Browns” are coming to an end.

     A #1 WR is a priority. We do have some solid depth at the position right now though. 

    But....as I have said elsewhere,  that WR may be only like 5th in the rank of priorities....exactly because there may be some depth at that position now.

    @the-gipper said:

    But....as I have said elsewhere,  that WR may be only like 5th in the rank of priorities....exactly because there may be some depth at that position now.

    Right. I believe Dorsey’s draft philosophy is to take the best player available.

    So instead of filling needs in like we are filling in the blank, we are drafting the highest graded/most gifted player. 

    Works for me. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    But....as I have said elsewhere,  that WR may be only like 5th in the rank of priorities....exactly because there may be some depth at that position now.

    Right. I believe Dorsey’s draft philosophy is to take the best player available.

    So instead of filling needs in like we are filling in the blank, we are drafting the highest graded/most gifted player. 

    Works for me. 

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Right. I believe Dorsey’s draft philosophy is to take the best player available.

    So instead of filling needs in like we are filling in the blank, we are drafting the highest graded/most gifted player. 

    Works for me. 

    Above I had posted the prospect list made by one service.   Browns, right now, would be in the 11th draft position.  Who knows where they will end up.