Bell done in Pittsburgh
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Well.....a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. He signs right now....he collects 14 mill...THIS year.
So, instead, he sits out...and completely loses that money.....thinking "I am so good and will be in such demand that I am going to get a contract that will more than make up that 14 million.
Only problem: NO RB in history has ever been given a contract that could make up that 14 mill.....AND...I think it possible that he has been exposed as merely a system RB.....given that his replacement in Pisstown is doing just as well or better than him. Every team in the NFL may think: "If Pittsburg can get the same production out of a 2d or 3rd round rookie QB as they got out of him.....we should be able to do the same.....so why vastly overpay for something we can get much less expensively."
Now, maybe there is that ONE team out there that thinks he is the second coming.....but I am skeptical.
Which teams do all y'all think would be bidders for this guys services....at the kind of money he would want?
Packers? Seahawks? Broncos? Ravens? Anyone? Anyone Beuhler? Beuhler?
Here's another problem Gip. Looking at Spotrac, only the Colts, 49ers, and Jets currently have both the cap room for what Bell thinks he's worth, and the need for a top RB.
If this gambit blows up in his face, couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Here's another problem Gip. Looking at Spotrac, only the Colts, 49ers, and Jets currently have both the cap room for what Bell thinks he's worth, and the need for a top RB.
If this gambit blows up in his face, couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Of those, the one that I think could be the biggest player would be the Colts. Luck is rounding back into form.....their OL is also beginning to come into shape. Maybe a good RB is a prime need for them.
But then, who truly gives a shite where this egesta ends up.
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Unless the Stools have a better use for the franchise tag, they could conceivably slap it on him and match whatever offer he gets, which very well may be much less than he hopes it will be. I recall that’s how we kept Mack his last couple years here.
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Unless the Stools have a better use for the franchise tag, they could conceivably slap it on him and match whatever offer he gets, which very well may be much less than he hopes it will be. I recall that’s how we kept Mack his last couple years here.
Unless the Stools have a better use for the franchise tag, they could conceivably slap it on him and match whatever offer he gets, which very well may be much less than he hopes it will be. I recall that’s how we kept Mack his last couple years here.
Hootie and the Blowfish had the best advice regarding Bell: Let her go.
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Unless the Stools have a better use for the franchise tag, they could conceivably slap it on him and match whatever offer he gets, which very well may be much less than he hopes it will be. I recall that’s how we kept Mack his last couple years here.
Unless the Stools have a better use for the franchise tag, they could conceivably slap it on him and match whatever offer he gets, which very well may be much less than he hopes it will be. I recall that’s how we kept Mack his last couple years here.
Transition tag, if they put the franchise tag on him it's the qb tag and he gets 25m for the season. The Steelers aren't going to do that, I could however see a transition tag and trade scenario. His agent did a terrible job protecting his image and while he would have helped the team in the short term the steelers won't miss him because of Connors production. I'm just glad to not hear about it for a while.
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The issue is that they kept franchising him instead of giving him the deal his numbers deserve. He's obviously outperformed Gurley, whose deal was the annual of what Bell played at last year plus a lot more guaranteed.
Instead of thinking he's selfish - you could think of him as doing a good deed for the players as a whole.. when the salaries are bigger at the top everyone gets a raise.
This is a move to alter the power dynamics of the NFL. At its core the "franchise tag" is a monopolistic item used simply to reduce the earnings power of top players. Leveon has deserved more salary for quite some time. Remember, a "free market" means that both sides must agree to a proposal. By definition, those of you wanting him to just "shut up and accept" whatever he's lowballed.... are not actually supporting a free market.
If you ever wondered why you aren't getting a raise even though your company is reporting record profits.... this reflexive anti-labor thought is why they get away with it. Executives, of course, give themselves giant raises every year especially in the NFL.. why shouldn't you get your piece of it, especially when you're easily the best employee in your company?
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
I don't quite understand why Browns fans would be mad at him for doing this.
It's not your money, and it weakens the Steelers.
I wish more Steelers players had sat out the whole year.
It by no means weakens the Steelers. Aside from Connor being better, the Steelers have 14.6 mil in cap space for next year.
That along with Shaziers contract being gone, it can only strengthen the Steelers...they need a top notch DB.
Heard that Jalen Ramsey wans out of Jax !
Aside from Connor being better, the Steelers have 14.6 mil in cap space for next year.
Connor's better than Bell? Remains TBD...
Better value right now... no argument there.
It's complicated- he's not under contract, and I think this is right.... per nfl.com.. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000987961/article/leveon-bell-does-not-sign-tag-will-miss-2018-season
The Steelers can either tag him at the QB tender, or use the transition tag- meaning they can match any offer he gets on the open market. Why would they? Connor has proved Bell is imminently expendable, and the Steelers never overpay.
So he's not an RFA.
Makes sense since he was already a UFA and thus the refused tag this season.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
The issue is that they kept franchising him instead of giving him the deal his numbers deserve. He's obviously outperformed Gurley, whose deal was the annual of what Bell played at last year plus a lot more guaranteed.
Instead of thinking he's selfish - you could think of him as doing a good deed for the players as a whole.. when the salaries are bigger at the top everyone gets a raise.
This is a move to alter the power dynamics of the NFL. At its core the "franchise tag" is a monopolistic item used simply to reduce the earnings power of top players. Leveon has deserved more salary for quite some time. Remember, a "free market" means that both sides must agree to a proposal. By definition, those of you wanting him to just "shut up and accept" whatever he's lowballed.... are not actually supporting a free market.
If you ever wondered why you aren't getting a raise even though your company is reporting record profits.... this reflexive anti-labor thought is why they get away with it. Executives, of course, give themselves giant raises every year especially in the NFL.. why shouldn't you get your piece of it, especially when you're easily the best employee in your company?
The issue is that they kept franchising him instead of giving him the deal his numbers deserve. He's obviously outperformed Gurley, whose deal was the annual of what Bell played at last year plus a lot more guaranteed.
Instead of thinking he's selfish - you could think of him as doing a good deed for the players as a whole.. when the salaries are bigger at the top everyone gets a raise.
This is a move to alter the power dynamics of the NFL. At its core the "franchise tag" is a monopolistic item used simply to reduce the earnings power of top players. Leveon has deserved more salary for quite some time. Remember, a "free market" means that both sides must agree to a proposal. By definition, those of you wanting him to just "shut up and accept" whatever he's lowballed.... are not actually supporting a free market.
If you ever wondered why you aren't getting a raise even though your company is reporting record profits.... this reflexive anti-labor thought is why they get away with it. Executives, of course, give themselves giant raises every year especially in the NFL.. why shouldn't you get your piece of it, especially when you're easily the best employee in your company?
Or you could be completely wrong about everything. Or maybe not
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The issue is that they kept franchising him instead of giving him the deal his numbers deserve. He's obviously outperformed Gurley, whose deal was the annual of what Bell played at last year plus a lot more guaranteed.
Instead of thinking he's selfish - you could think of him as doing a good deed for the players as a whole.. when the salaries are bigger at the top everyone gets a raise.
This is a move to alter the power dynamics of the NFL. At its core the "franchise tag" is a monopolistic item used simply to reduce the earnings power of top players. Leveon has deserved more salary for quite some time. Remember, a "free market" means that both sides must agree to a proposal. By definition, those of you wanting him to just "shut up and accept" whatever he's lowballed.... are not actually supporting a free market.
If you ever wondered why you aren't getting a raise even though your company is reporting record profits.... this reflexive anti-labor thought is why they get away with it. Executives, of course, give themselves giant raises every year especially in the NFL.. why shouldn't you get your piece of it, especially when you're easily the best employee in your company?
The issue is that they kept franchising him instead of giving him the deal his numbers deserve. He's obviously outperformed Gurley, whose deal was the annual of what Bell played at last year plus a lot more guaranteed.
Instead of thinking he's selfish - you could think of him as doing a good deed for the players as a whole.. when the salaries are bigger at the top everyone gets a raise.
This is a move to alter the power dynamics of the NFL. At its core the "franchise tag" is a monopolistic item used simply to reduce the earnings power of top players. Leveon has deserved more salary for quite some time. Remember, a "free market" means that both sides must agree to a proposal. By definition, those of you wanting him to just "shut up and accept" whatever he's lowballed.... are not actually supporting a free market.
If you ever wondered why you aren't getting a raise even though your company is reporting record profits.... this reflexive anti-labor thought is why they get away with it. Executives, of course, give themselves giant raises every year especially in the NFL.. why shouldn't you get your piece of it, especially when you're easily the best employee in your company?
Sorry- this is a UNION squabble that the players agreed to- via the guys who were bargaining for them. Don't like the rules? Go on strike next time around.
Don't forget Bell turned down the Steeler's offer (pre Gurley) that would have make him the highest paid RB in the NFL. Sorry if you think that's not enough for poor, poor Le'veon.
Bell is mistakenly trying to elevate the relative value of running backs. They're about 4th on the value scale, and if you want to doubt that assertion- go look at how much super stud Saquon Barkley has helped the Giants to a couple of wins, or the Steelers have hardly missed a beat without Bell.
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Despite not playing Bell is still a year older. He doesn’t seem to think this matters one bit but I would bet GMs and teams think differently.
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Despite not playing Bell is still a year older. He doesn’t seem to think this matters one bit but I would bet GMs and teams think differently.
Despite not playing Bell is still a year older. He doesn’t seem to think this matters one bit but I would bet GMs and teams think differently.
Another year older and deeper in debt.....as the saying goes. When you miss out on 14 million bucks? That would make you deeper in debt.
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Just saw this
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In a fitting end to a bizarre holdout story, several Pittsburgh Steelers players rummaged through Bell's locker and removed his No. 26 nameplate after Wednesday's practice.
Bell forfeited the season and his $14.5 million franchise tag by failing to report to team headquarters on Tuesday. He left behind a locker full of stuff, including cleats, shirts and a CD labeled 'Le'Veon Bell #1."
Linebacker Bud Dupree scored two pairs of Jordan cleats and thanked Bell. The move seemed more playful than malicious.
"Appreciate the cleats, my guy," Dupree said into a camera. "I wish you success, my guy."
Bell's locker had stayed intact through his holdout.
Players answered Bell-related questions for what they hope is the last time. Defensive end Cam Heyward said the most disappointing part of the Bell holdout is "that we even talk about it."
"It sucks when a guy doesn't have to answer his own questions," Heyward said. "If they aren't on the team, I'm not worried about it.
"... Just get back to football. That's all we can do. Wish him the best. This train doesn't stop for anybody."
Guard Ramon Foster, the team's NFL Players Association rep, took a businesslike approach to Bell's absence.
"Save your money, get a lot of information on what we're trying to do moving forward and that way stuff like this doesn't happen," Foster said in a message directed at players. "We fall short on things because guys get selfish or guys say, 'Hey, yeah, we're going to take a deal.'
"We've got to inform ourselves this next time around so this type of stuff doesn't happen. I hate it. [The franchise tag] could be good for both sides because you're one of the highest paid at your position. But they retain your rights so you don't hit the open market."
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Just saw this
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In a fitting end to a bizarre holdout story, several Pittsburgh Steelers players rummaged through Bell's locker and removed his No. 26 nameplate after Wednesday's practice.
Bell forfeited the season and his $14.5 million franchise tag by failing to report to team headquarters on Tuesday. He left behind a locker full of stuff, including cleats, shirts and a CD labeled 'Le'Veon Bell #1."
Linebacker Bud Dupree scored two pairs of Jordan cleats and thanked Bell. The move seemed more playful than malicious.
"Appreciate the cleats, my guy," Dupree said into a camera. "I wish you success, my guy."
Bell's locker had stayed intact through his holdout.
Players answered Bell-related questions for what they hope is the last time. Defensive end Cam Heyward said the most disappointing part of the Bell holdout is "that we even talk about it."
"It sucks when a guy doesn't have to answer his own questions," Heyward said. "If they aren't on the team, I'm not worried about it.
"... Just get back to football. That's all we can do. Wish him the best. This train doesn't stop for anybody."
Guard Ramon Foster, the team's NFL Players Association rep, took a businesslike approach to Bell's absence.
"Save your money, get a lot of information on what we're trying to do moving forward and that way stuff like this doesn't happen," Foster said in a message directed at players. "We fall short on things because guys get selfish or guys say, 'Hey, yeah, we're going to take a deal.'
"We've got to inform ourselves this next time around so this type of stuff doesn't happen. I hate it. [The franchise tag] could be good for both sides because you're one of the highest paid at your position. But they retain your rights so you don't hit the open market."
Just saw this
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In a fitting end to a bizarre holdout story, several Pittsburgh Steelers players rummaged through Bell's locker and removed his No. 26 nameplate after Wednesday's practice.
Bell forfeited the season and his $14.5 million franchise tag by failing to report to team headquarters on Tuesday. He left behind a locker full of stuff, including cleats, shirts and a CD labeled 'Le'Veon Bell #1."
Linebacker Bud Dupree scored two pairs of Jordan cleats and thanked Bell. The move seemed more playful than malicious.
"Appreciate the cleats, my guy," Dupree said into a camera. "I wish you success, my guy."
Bell's locker had stayed intact through his holdout.
Players answered Bell-related questions for what they hope is the last time. Defensive end Cam Heyward said the most disappointing part of the Bell holdout is "that we even talk about it."
"It sucks when a guy doesn't have to answer his own questions," Heyward said. "If they aren't on the team, I'm not worried about it.
"... Just get back to football. That's all we can do. Wish him the best. This train doesn't stop for anybody."
Guard Ramon Foster, the team's NFL Players Association rep, took a businesslike approach to Bell's absence.
"Save your money, get a lot of information on what we're trying to do moving forward and that way stuff like this doesn't happen," Foster said in a message directed at players. "We fall short on things because guys get selfish or guys say, 'Hey, yeah, we're going to take a deal.'
"We've got to inform ourselves this next time around so this type of stuff doesn't happen. I hate it. [The franchise tag] could be good for both sides because you're one of the highest paid at your position. But they retain your rights so you don't hit the open market."
Uhh....Duh....No Shite Sherlock. That was the whole point of what the Union agreed to there. They traded the big paycheck that players playing under the tag received for their free agency rights. They took the money....just like they did with the disciplinary process. They put all the power in the hands of the commish so they could make more cash.
I think the owners next time around should say..You....(the union), can have what you want: A. no franchise tag B. A commission that handles discipline, not the commish C. no marijuana testing.........and in return...you get 10-15% LESS of the total money pot. Basically....cave in to all of the union's primary demands.....but give them much less $$$$$. See how that goes over.
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Just saw this
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In a fitting end to a bizarre holdout story, several Pittsburgh Steelers players rummaged through Bell's locker and removed his No. 26 nameplate after Wednesday's practice.
Bell forfeited the season and his $14.5 million franchise tag by failing to report to team headquarters on Tuesday. He left behind a locker full of stuff, including cleats, shirts and a CD labeled 'Le'Veon Bell #1."
Linebacker Bud Dupree scored two pairs of Jordan cleats and thanked Bell. The move seemed more playful than malicious.
"Appreciate the cleats, my guy," Dupree said into a camera. "I wish you success, my guy."
Bell's locker had stayed intact through his holdout.
Players answered Bell-related questions for what they hope is the last time. Defensive end Cam Heyward said the most disappointing part of the Bell holdout is "that we even talk about it."
"It sucks when a guy doesn't have to answer his own questions," Heyward said. "If they aren't on the team, I'm not worried about it.
"... Just get back to football. That's all we can do. Wish him the best. This train doesn't stop for anybody."
Guard Ramon Foster, the team's NFL Players Association rep, took a businesslike approach to Bell's absence.
"Save your money, get a lot of information on what we're trying to do moving forward and that way stuff like this doesn't happen," Foster said in a message directed at players. "We fall short on things because guys get selfish or guys say, 'Hey, yeah, we're going to take a deal.'
"We've got to inform ourselves this next time around so this type of stuff doesn't happen. I hate it. [The franchise tag] could be good for both sides because you're one of the highest paid at your position. But they retain your rights so you don't hit the open market."
Uhh....Duh....No Shite Sherlock. That was the whole point of what the Union agreed to there. They traded the big paycheck that players playing under the tag received for their free agency rights. They took the money....just like they did with the disciplinary process. They put all the power in the hands of the commish so they could make more cash.
I think the owners next time around should say..You....(the union), can have what you want: A. no franchise tag B. A commission that handles discipline, not the commish C. no marijuana testing.........and in return...you get 10-15% LESS of the total money pot. Basically....cave in to all of the union's primary demands.....but give them much less $$$$$. See how that goes over.
Uhh....Duh....No Shite Sherlock. That was the whole point of what the Union agreed to there. They traded the big paycheck that players playing under the tag received for their free agency rights. They took the money....just like they did with the disciplinary process. They put all the power in the hands of the commish so they could make more cash.
I think the owners next time around should say..You....(the union), can have what you want: A. no franchise tag B. A commission that handles discipline, not the commish C. no marijuana testing.........and in return...you get 10-15% LESS of the total money pot. Basically....cave in to all of the union's primary demands.....but give them much less $$$$$. See how that goes over.
Oh yeah it's a kids' game alright playing ball....until you get into the real money, power, discipline and now health issues and other details of it.
Better than the Young & the Restless!
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The issue is that they kept franchising him instead of giving him the deal his numbers deserve. He's obviously outperformed Gurley, whose deal was the annual of what Bell played at last year plus a lot more guaranteed.
Instead of thinking he's selfish - you could think of him as doing a good deed for the players as a whole.. when the salaries are bigger at the top everyone gets a raise.
This is a move to alter the power dynamics of the NFL. At its core the "franchise tag" is a monopolistic item used simply to reduce the earnings power of top players. Leveon has deserved more salary for quite some time. Remember, a "free market" means that both sides must agree to a proposal. By definition, those of you wanting him to just "shut up and accept" whatever he's lowballed.... are not actually supporting a free market.
If you ever wondered why you aren't getting a raise even though your company is reporting record profits.... this reflexive anti-labor thought is why they get away with it. Executives, of course, give themselves giant raises every year especially in the NFL.. why shouldn't you get your piece of it, especially when you're easily the best employee in your company?
Sorry- this is a UNION squabble that the players agreed to- via the guys who were bargaining for them. Don't like the rules? Go on strike next time around.
Don't forget Bell turned down the Steeler's offer (pre Gurley) that would have make him the highest paid RB in the NFL. Sorry if you think that's not enough for poor, poor Le'veon.
Bell is mistakenly trying to elevate the relative value of running backs. They're about 4th on the value scale, and if you want to doubt that assertion- go look at how much super stud Saquon Barkley has helped the Giants to a couple of wins, or the Steelers have hardly missed a beat without Bell.
Sorry- this is a UNION squabble that the players agreed to- via the guys who were bargaining for them. Don't like the rules? Go on strike next time around.
Don't forget Bell turned down the Steeler's offer (pre Gurley) that would have make him the highest paid RB in the NFL. Sorry if you think that's not enough for poor, poor Le'veon.
Bell is mistakenly trying to elevate the relative value of running backs. They're about 4th on the value scale, and if you want to doubt that assertion- go look at how much super stud Saquon Barkley has helped the Giants to a couple of wins, or the Steelers have hardly missed a beat without Bell.
I've literally called out this statement as being garbage 50 times, but I'll try once more in plain language. Sure, it may be neat to be the highest paid player at a position but any smart player doesn't give two flips about that. It comes down to fully guaranteed money, of which Bell was only offered about $20 million. As has been said a bunch now, I don't blame Bell at all for taking that as a slap in the face compared to his production.
A player can have a $100 million per year contract and it doesn't mean Sheet in the NFL unless the word guaranteed is after it. Not difficult to understand.
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Sorry- this is a UNION squabble that the players agreed to- via the guys who were bargaining for them. Don't like the rules? Go on strike next time around.
Don't forget Bell turned down the Steeler's offer (pre Gurley) that would have make him the highest paid RB in the NFL. Sorry if you think that's not enough for poor, poor Le'veon.
Bell is mistakenly trying to elevate the relative value of running backs. They're about 4th on the value scale, and if you want to doubt that assertion- go look at how much super stud Saquon Barkley has helped the Giants to a couple of wins, or the Steelers have hardly missed a beat without Bell.
I've literally called out this statement as being garbage 50 times, but I'll try once more in plain language. Sure, it may be neat to be the highest paid player at a position but any smart player doesn't give two flips about that. It comes down to fully guaranteed money, of which Bell was only offered about $20 million. As has been said a bunch now, I don't blame Bell at all for taking that as a slap in the face compared to his production.
A player can have a $100 million per year contract and it doesn't mean Sheet in the NFL unless the word guaranteed is after it. Not difficult to understand.
I've literally called out this statement as being garbage 50 times, but I'll try once more in plain language. Sure, it may be neat to be the highest paid player at a position but any smart player doesn't give two flips about that. It comes down to fully guaranteed money, of which Bell was only offered about $20 million. As has been said a bunch now, I don't blame Bell at all for taking that as a slap in the face compared to his production.
A player can have a $100 million per year contract and it doesn't mean Sheet in the NFL unless the word guaranteed is after it. Not difficult to understand.
Well....it certainly means something if he continues to play at a highly productive level.....then he earns the "non-guaranteed" portion of his contract. If he slides into suckage, then perhaps he should not earn all that extra money.
I mean, really....THAT is what this is all about: "I want tons of guaranteed money so that when I begin to suck arse, you will still have to pay me."
I won't ask if you agree or disagree with that....as there can be no such thing as a disagreement with that.
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I've literally called out this statement as being garbage 50 times, but I'll try once more in plain language. Sure, it may be neat to be the highest paid player at a position but any smart player doesn't give two flips about that. It comes down to fully guaranteed money, of which Bell was only offered about $20 million. As has been said a bunch now, I don't blame Bell at all for taking that as a slap in the face compared to his production.
A player can have a $100 million per year contract and it doesn't mean Sheet in the NFL unless the word guaranteed is after it. Not difficult to understand.
Well....it certainly means something if he continues to play at a highly productive level.....then he earns the "non-guaranteed" portion of his contract. If he slides into suckage, then perhaps he should not earn all that extra money.
I mean, really....THAT is what this is all about: "I want tons of guaranteed money so that when I begin to suck arse, you will still have to pay me."
I won't ask if you agree or disagree with that....as there can be no such thing as a disagreement with that.
Well....it certainly means something if he continues to play at a highly productive level.....then he earns the "non-guaranteed" portion of his contract. If he slides into suckage, then perhaps he should not earn all that extra money.
I mean, really....THAT is what this is all about: "I want tons of guaranteed money so that when I begin to suck arse, you will still have to pay me."
I won't ask if you agree or disagree with that....as there can be no such thing as a disagreement with that.
Except that's absolutely 100% wrong. Players in the NFL want guaranteed money because the sport by definition is brutal. All it takes is one wrong hit and their career is over, and the only thing that saves them is a contract with guaranteed money. If a guy gets that money and decides to coast, that's an organizational problem. But the reason I noted of why guys want guaranteed money is something I could explain to my dog. C'mon now, use common sense. I won't ask if you agree or disagree with that because unlike what you said, there's no such thing as disagreement with my point. Hell, that's largely why the NFLPA exists.
Bell by RB standards put on a grueling work load on his body since in the NFL. It's not wrong of him to want the money, guaranteed, that goes along with that. The owners of teams absolutely have the upper hand on contracts and always will. Non-guaranteed big money contracts mean crap cause all an owner has to do is snap his fingers and it's gone. This has been seen thousands of times. Get it together man.
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Aside from Connor being better, the Steelers have 14.6 mil in cap space for next year.
Connor's better than Bell? Remains TBD...
Better value right now... no argument there.
It's complicated- he's not under contract, and I think this is right.... per nfl.com.. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000987961/article/leveon-bell-does-not-sign-tag-will-miss-2018-season
The Steelers can either tag him at the QB tender, or use the transition tag- meaning they can match any offer he gets on the open market. Why would they? Connor has proved Bell is imminently expendable, and the Steelers never overpay.
So he's not an RFA.
Makes sense since he was already a UFA and thus the refused tag this season.
Connor's better than Bell? Remains TBD...
Better value right now... no argument there.
True, Connor being better than Bell still remains to be seen. I was only making a bold prediction based on what has already been seen...
... Conners performance vs. Bells in their rookie years.
As the season progresses, Conner continues to pull away from Bell in terms of rookie performance.
Conner outpaced Bell, 164 to 160 rushing attempts, and also in receptions, 39 to 33.
Conner has 11 touchdowns compared to Bell's 5.
The difference between the pair in yards gained also shows where Conner has really outplayed Bell.
Through their first 9 games, Conner has 771 yards on the ground vs. Bell's 528 (and a higher average at 4.7 vs. 3.3). Conner also has more receiving yards (386 vs. 319) and a better average (9.9 vs 9.67).
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Well....it certainly means something if he continues to play at a highly productive level.....then he earns the "non-guaranteed" portion of his contract. If he slides into suckage, then perhaps he should not earn all that extra money.
I mean, really....THAT is what this is all about: "I want tons of guaranteed money so that when I begin to suck arse, you will still have to pay me."
I won't ask if you agree or disagree with that....as there can be no such thing as a disagreement with that.
Except that's absolutely 100% wrong. Players in the NFL want guaranteed money because the sport by definition is brutal. All it takes is one wrong hit and their career is over, and the only thing that saves them is a contract with guaranteed money. If a guy gets that money and decides to coast, that's an organizational problem. But the reason I noted of why guys want guaranteed money is something I could explain to my dog. C'mon now, use common sense. I won't ask if you agree or disagree with that because unlike what you said, there's no such thing as disagreement with my point. Hell, that's largely why the NFLPA exists.
Bell by RB standards put on a grueling work load on his body since in the NFL. It's not wrong of him to want the money, guaranteed, that goes along with that. The owners of teams absolutely have the upper hand on contracts and always will. Non-guaranteed big money contracts mean crap cause all an owner has to do is snap his fingers and it's gone. This has been seen thousands of times. Get it together man.
Except that's absolutely 100% wrong. Players in the NFL want guaranteed money because the sport by definition is brutal. All it takes is one wrong hit and their career is over, and the only thing that saves them is a contract with guaranteed money. If a guy gets that money and decides to coast, that's an organizational problem. But the reason I noted of why guys want guaranteed money is something I could explain to my dog. C'mon now, use common sense. I won't ask if you agree or disagree with that because unlike what you said, there's no such thing as disagreement with my point. Hell, that's largely why the NFLPA exists.
Bell by RB standards put on a grueling work load on his body since in the NFL. It's not wrong of him to want the money, guaranteed, that goes along with that. The owners of teams absolutely have the upper hand on contracts and always will. Non-guaranteed big money contracts mean crap cause all an owner has to do is snap his fingers and it's gone. This has been seen thousands of times. Get it together man.
So bottom line, $14.6 million was not enough for poor LaVeon?
One hit and their NFL career is over? So? They can start a career in the field of study that they graduated from college with...
I also know people with shot knees, hips, and shoulders that never played a down of football in their life, so save that sob story.
I would almost bet my life James Connor would not pull that Sheet. A cancer survivor so grateful his favorite team took a chance on him. That would humble anyone.
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Connor's better than Bell? Remains TBD...
Better value right now... no argument there.
True, Connor being better than Bell still remains to be seen. I was only making a bold prediction based on what has already been seen...
... Conners performance vs. Bells in their rookie years.
As the season progresses, Conner continues to pull away from Bell in terms of rookie performance.
Conner outpaced Bell, 164 to 160 rushing attempts, and also in receptions, 39 to 33.
Conner has 11 touchdowns compared to Bell's 5.
The difference between the pair in yards gained also shows where Conner has really outplayed Bell.
Through their first 9 games, Conner has 771 yards on the ground vs. Bell's 528 (and a higher average at 4.7 vs. 3.3). Conner also has more receiving yards (386 vs. 319) and a better average (9.9 vs 9.67).
True, Connor being better than Bell still remains to be seen. I was only making a bold prediction based on what has already been seen...
... Conners performance vs. Bells in their rookie years.
As the season progresses, Conner continues to pull away from Bell in terms of rookie performance.
Conner outpaced Bell, 164 to 160 rushing attempts, and also in receptions, 39 to 33.
Conner has 11 touchdowns compared to Bell's 5.
The difference between the pair in yards gained also shows where Conner has really outplayed Bell.
Through their first 9 games, Conner has 771 yards on the ground vs. Bell's 528 (and a higher average at 4.7 vs. 3.3). Conner also has more receiving yards (386 vs. 319) and a better average (9.9 vs 9.67).
Points taken, but the stats are not stand alone.
In 2013 PTG was a .500 team so the team was now as good and carries disappear when a team is behind.
Granted when you play from behind receptions would be expected to rise, but Bell did not play until Week 4. I doubt the staff fully understood the pass threat they had.
I am not dissing Conner. He's filled Bell's shoes admirably, but the role was defined by Bell.
Let's revisit the comparison after years 2 and 3...
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