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  • flyingfooldoug flyingfooldougF One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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    I don’t like either him or his brother. They’re too arrogant to be long term winners. 

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      I don’t like either him or his brother. They’re too arrogant to be long term winners. 

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      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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      @flyingfooldoug said:

      I don’t like either him or his brother. They’re too arrogant to be long term winners. 

      Bill Belichick and his 5 Super Bowl rings disagree. 

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        If it's a Harbaugh that is being discussed, the only one I'd consider as coach of Cleveland is currently getting a paycheck from Baltimore.

        As an Ohio state fan: Please let UM keep Jim Harbaugh forever..

        How many isolation routes did he call for their backup blocking TE today when they have multiple 5-star WR's? I lost count at 2..

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        FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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        @unsympathetic said:

        If it's a Harbaugh that is being discussed, the only one I'd consider as coach of Cleveland is currently getting a paycheck from Baltimore.

        As an Ohio state fan: Please let UM keep Jim Harbaugh forever..

        How many isolation routes did he call for their backup blocking TE today when they have multiple 5-star WR's? I lost count at 2..

        Well said!

        Neither team looked like they looked all season long yesterday. 

        The only thing Ohio State did wrong was bring that meaningless goal line QB in.

        I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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          @unsympathetic said:

          If it's a Harbaugh that is being discussed, the only one I'd consider as coach of Cleveland is currently getting a paycheck from Baltimore.

          As an Ohio state fan: Please let UM keep Jim Harbaugh forever..

          How many isolation routes did he call for their backup blocking TE today when they have multiple 5-star WR's? I lost count at 2..

          Well said!

          Neither team looked like they looked all season long yesterday. 

          The only thing Ohio State did wrong was bring that meaningless goal line QB in.

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          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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          @flugel said:

          Well said!

          Neither team looked like they looked all season long yesterday. 

          The only thing Ohio State did wrong was bring that meaningless goal line QB in.

          Between Ohio State feeling the need to force Martell into the game and all their penalties, TTUN is lucky they didn't get 70+ hung on them yesterday. 

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            U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by
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            Martell will be a good QB for OSU - just not this season. 

            It seems ridiculous now but there was talk of a QB battle in fall camp between Haskins and Martell.. Martell is a really good athlete playing QB, more in the mold of Troy Smith than Barrett.  I thought those plays were more "We have to get this guy on the field somehow."  It brought back memories of Troy Smith returning kickoffs the year before he started at QB..

            The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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              Martell will be a good QB for OSU - just not this season. 

              It seems ridiculous now but there was talk of a QB battle in fall camp between Haskins and Martell.. Martell is a really good athlete playing QB, more in the mold of Troy Smith than Barrett.  I thought those plays were more "We have to get this guy on the field somehow."  It brought back memories of Troy Smith returning kickoffs the year before he started at QB..

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              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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              @unsympathetic said:

              Martell will be a good QB for OSU - just not this season. 

              It seems ridiculous now but there was talk of a QB battle in fall camp between Haskins and Martell.. Martell is a really good athlete playing QB, more in the mold of Troy Smith than Barrett.  I thought those plays were more "We have to get this guy on the field somehow."  It brought back memories of Troy Smith returning kickoffs the year before he started at QB..

              I was just thinking about that too - how the hell was there a QB battle in camp? 

              I think Haskins leaves OSU, and I think its a big mistake for him. He needs more experience. 

              I hope Martell is more like Smith than Barrett. Smith was IMO a far more balanced QB. Much better passer than Barrett. 

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              • The GipperT The Gipper

                Jim Harbaugh may want to abandon the college game at this point. the best defense in football giving up like 62 points boy

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                mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                @the-gipper said:

                Jim Harbaugh may want to abandon the college game at this point. the best defense in football giving up like 62 points boy

                Worst loss in his roughly 173 +/- game coaching career and continuing the "can't win the big one" tag. Not good for the resume, he'll probably stay put at Michigan.....he certainly has a sweet deal there. NFL HC would not necessarily be a step up.

                GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Jim Harbaugh may want to abandon the college game at this point. the best defense in football giving up like 62 points boy

                  Worst loss in his roughly 173 +/- game coaching career and continuing the "can't win the big one" tag. Not good for the resume, he'll probably stay put at Michigan.....he certainly has a sweet deal there. NFL HC would not necessarily be a step up.

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                  @mjp28 said:

                  Worst loss in his roughly 173 +/- game coaching career and continuing the "can't win the big one" tag. Not good for the resume, he'll probably stay put at Michigan.....he certainly has a sweet deal there. NFL HC would not necessarily be a step up.

                  I don’t think he would be in trouble at all in Michigan. The question is whether not he would just see the writing on the wall and say look I’ve done this so let me try to go back to the NFL. 

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                    @mjp28 said:

                    Worst loss in his roughly 173 +/- game coaching career and continuing the "can't win the big one" tag. Not good for the resume, he'll probably stay put at Michigan.....he certainly has a sweet deal there. NFL HC would not necessarily be a step up.

                    I don’t think he would be in trouble at all in Michigan. The question is whether not he would just see the writing on the wall and say look I’ve done this so let me try to go back to the NFL. 

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                    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                    @the-gipper said:

                    I don’t think he would be in trouble at all in Michigan. The question is whether not he would just see the writing on the wall and say look I’ve done this so let me try to go back to the NFL. 

                    Remember the last go round with Hoke, Miles and the other names? Will the boosters, AD, Michigan brass, and somewhat fans start to say "one more year"?

                    Actually "m" has improved but their measuring stick is a tough one The OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY Buckeyes and Tressel & Meyer who have buried them.

                    .....oh add, michigan may win 11 games this year.

                    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      John would be a good get.

                      Jim would too, but he's not leaving. He's not getting fired. Smh

                      And Haskins should learn from Cardale's mistake. He should go pro. A year on an NFL roster will be much better experience than a year throwing bubble screens and crossing routes. Meyer isn't going to develop a pro style qb. He should go while his stock is high. Especially if he goes on a Cardale like run.

                      That's all objective feedback, btw. No bias factored in. 

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                      • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                        John would be a good get.

                        Jim would too, but he's not leaving. He's not getting fired. Smh

                        And Haskins should learn from Cardale's mistake. He should go pro. A year on an NFL roster will be much better experience than a year throwing bubble screens and crossing routes. Meyer isn't going to develop a pro style qb. He should go while his stock is high. Especially if he goes on a Cardale like run.

                        That's all objective feedback, btw. No bias factored in. 

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @mld-woody said:

                        John would be a good get.

                        Jim would too, but he's not leaving. He's not getting fired. Smh

                        And Haskins should learn from Cardale's mistake. He should go pro. A year on an NFL roster will be much better experience than a year throwing bubble screens and crossing routes. Meyer isn't going to develop a pro style qb. He should go while his stock is high. Especially if he goes on a Cardale like run.

                        That's all objective feedback, btw. No bias factored in. 

                         On Haskins going pro I guess since he is a redshirt sophomore I believe he would be eligible to go. Of course the question is is it ready to go. I’m not sure about that but I understand what you say about getting his training on an NFL roster rather than on the college roster it might make some sense. I think the thing he may want to check out is whether or not he would go high in the draft which I really think he would even as close to number one. Given the paucity of potential franchise quarterback’s in this coming draft. He could be the prime choice of a number of teams

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                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                          He's not going #1 Gip.......

                          ......

                          But there does seem to be a lack of QBs this draft. It could definitely push him up 

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                          • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                            He's not going #1 Gip.......

                            ......

                            But there does seem to be a lack of QBs this draft. It could definitely push him up 

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            @mld-woody said:

                            He's not going #1 Gip.......

                            ......

                            But there does seem to be a lack of QBs this draft. It could definitely push him up 

                            A guy like him could certainly be considered for the number one spot. He is a Proto typical drop back professional quarterback and those are fairly rare these days. It would only be his inexperience really that would prevent him from going number one but it only takes the one team to see the potential value in him. I mean no one considered Baker Mayfield a potential number one pick. Hell you could have Ohio State players going number one and number two in this next draft with him and Bosa it is not out of the realm of possibility

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                              @mld-woody said:

                              He's not going #1 Gip.......

                              ......

                              But there does seem to be a lack of QBs this draft. It could definitely push him up 

                              A guy like him could certainly be considered for the number one spot. He is a Proto typical drop back professional quarterback and those are fairly rare these days. It would only be his inexperience really that would prevent him from going number one but it only takes the one team to see the potential value in him. I mean no one considered Baker Mayfield a potential number one pick. Hell you could have Ohio State players going number one and number two in this next draft with him and Bosa it is not out of the realm of possibility

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                              mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                              @the-gipper said:

                              A guy like him could certainly be considered for the number one spot. He is a Proto typical drop back professional quarterback and those are fairly rare these days. It would only be his inexperience really that would prevent him from going number one but it only takes the one team to see the potential value in him. I mean no one considered Baker Mayfield a potential number one pick. Hell you could have Ohio State players going number one and number two in this next draft with him and Bosa it is not out of the realm of possibility

                              Remember the two year savior Kizer? Not a good idea they tend to go to bad teams with high picks and get pressed into service too early.

                              Stay at least one more year at OSU -BUT- money sometimes talks and if his advisors say he is ready he might take it......and the retirement worthy signing bonus.

                              GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                                @the-gipper said:

                                A guy like him could certainly be considered for the number one spot. He is a Proto typical drop back professional quarterback and those are fairly rare these days. It would only be his inexperience really that would prevent him from going number one but it only takes the one team to see the potential value in him. I mean no one considered Baker Mayfield a potential number one pick. Hell you could have Ohio State players going number one and number two in this next draft with him and Bosa it is not out of the realm of possibility

                                Remember the two year savior Kizer? Not a good idea they tend to go to bad teams with high picks and get pressed into service too early.

                                Stay at least one more year at OSU -BUT- money sometimes talks and if his advisors say he is ready he might take it......and the retirement worthy signing bonus.

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @mjp28 said:

                                Remember the two year savior Kizer? Not a good idea they tend to go to bad teams with high picks and get pressed into service too early.

                                Stay at least one more year at OSU -BUT- money sometimes talks and if his advisors say he is ready he might take it......and the retirement worthy signing bonus.

                                I will have to check when I get back to my desk top computer rather than being on the phone but I recall seeing that as far as potential quarterback prospects Haskins was only like third or fourth. But you never know that could change I’m not sure who was ahead of him some guys from the West Coast I think Washington Oregon or something like that. 

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                                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                                  I think Woodys point that he would be better off in his professional development if he were to come out now would also include the proviso that he should not go straight into being given the starting job but should be on the bench learning. Unlike Kaiser

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                                    I think Woodys point that he would be better off in his professional development if he were to come out now would also include the proviso that he should not go straight into being given the starting job but should be on the bench learning. Unlike Kaiser

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                                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    I think Woodys point that he would be better off in his professional development if he were to come out now would also include the proviso that he should not go straight into being given the starting job but should be on the bench learning. Unlike Kaiser

                                    That always sounds great, but rarely happens with high picks at QB.

                                    Josh Allen was a QB prospect that even supporters thought needed to sit this season and slowly be brought in. Of course he's thrown into the starting job almost immediately. 

                                    But Woody does have a good point - Urban Meyer's offense isn't the best in teaching up a potential NFL QB. It surprises me prototype pocket QBs like Haskins don't go to a college program that runs more of a pro-style offense, but then again, they are few and far between. 

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                                      flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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                                      The only 2 reasons a harbaugh won a Super Bowl.  1.. he got to coach against his brother. 2. Ozzie Newsome. 

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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        I think Woodys point that he would be better off in his professional development if he were to come out now would also include the proviso that he should not go straight into being given the starting job but should be on the bench learning. Unlike Kaiser

                                        That always sounds great, but rarely happens with high picks at QB.

                                        Josh Allen was a QB prospect that even supporters thought needed to sit this season and slowly be brought in. Of course he's thrown into the starting job almost immediately. 

                                        But Woody does have a good point - Urban Meyer's offense isn't the best in teaching up a potential NFL QB. It surprises me prototype pocket QBs like Haskins don't go to a college program that runs more of a pro-style offense, but then again, they are few and far between. 

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                                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                        @dutch-oven said:

                                        That always sounds great, but rarely happens with high picks at QB.

                                        Josh Allen was a QB prospect that even supporters thought needed to sit this season and slowly be brought in. Of course he's thrown into the starting job almost immediately. 

                                        But Woody does have a good point - Urban Meyer's offense isn't the best in teaching up a potential NFL QB. It surprises me prototype pocket QBs like Haskins don't go to a college program that runs more of a pro-style offense, but then again, they are few and far between. 

                                        On the other hand the pro game is becoming to look like the college game a lot

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                                          I think Woodys point that he would be better off in his professional development if he were to come out now would also include the proviso that he should not go straight into being given the starting job but should be on the bench learning. Unlike Kaiser

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                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          I think Woodys point that he would be better off in his professional development if he were to come out now would also include the proviso that he should not go straight into being given the starting job but should be on the bench learning. Unlike Kaiser

                                          Correct.

                                          We broke Kizer.

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