Will Harbaugh want the Browns job now
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I think Woodys point that he would be better off in his professional development if he were to come out now would also include the proviso that he should not go straight into being given the starting job but should be on the bench learning. Unlike Kaiser
That always sounds great, but rarely happens with high picks at QB.
Josh Allen was a QB prospect that even supporters thought needed to sit this season and slowly be brought in. Of course he's thrown into the starting job almost immediately.
But Woody does have a good point - Urban Meyer's offense isn't the best in teaching up a potential NFL QB. It surprises me prototype pocket QBs like Haskins don't go to a college program that runs more of a pro-style offense, but then again, they are few and far between.
That always sounds great, but rarely happens with high picks at QB.
Josh Allen was a QB prospect that even supporters thought needed to sit this season and slowly be brought in. Of course he's thrown into the starting job almost immediately.
But Woody does have a good point - Urban Meyer's offense isn't the best in teaching up a potential NFL QB. It surprises me prototype pocket QBs like Haskins don't go to a college program that runs more of a pro-style offense, but then again, they are few and far between.
On the other hand the pro game is becoming to look like the college game a lot
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I think Woodys point that he would be better off in his professional development if he were to come out now would also include the proviso that he should not go straight into being given the starting job but should be on the bench learning. Unlike Kaiser
I think Woodys point that he would be better off in his professional development if he were to come out now would also include the proviso that he should not go straight into being given the starting job but should be on the bench learning. Unlike Kaiser
Correct.
We broke Kizer.
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I don’t think he would be in trouble at all in Michigan. The question is whether not he would just see the writing on the wall and say look I’ve done this so let me try to go back to the NFL.
Remember the last go round with Hoke, Miles and the other names? Will the boosters, AD, Michigan brass, and somewhat fans start to say "one more year"?
Actually "m" has improved but their measuring stick is a tough one The OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY Buckeyes and Tressel & Meyer who have buried them.
.....oh add, michigan may win 11 games this year.
Remember the last go round with Hoke, Miles and the other names? Will the boosters, AD, Michigan brass, and somewhat fans start to say "one more year"?
Actually "m" has improved but their measuring stick is a tough one The OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY Buckeyes and Tressel & Meyer who have buried them.
.....oh add, michigan may win 11 games this year.
The problem is- Michigan of late can't out recruit Ohio State, certainly not out coach them.
Correct.
We broke Kizer.
Nope. Woodster. I'm a resident ND hatah, and I saw far too much of Kizer at the Golden Dome. Sashimi saw the big arm- and nothing else. He was exactly what I thought he was playing for the Browns, a mostly inaccurate cannon that threw far too many picks, and made terrible decisions with the football.
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Remember the last go round with Hoke, Miles and the other names? Will the boosters, AD, Michigan brass, and somewhat fans start to say "one more year"?
Actually "m" has improved but their measuring stick is a tough one The OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY Buckeyes and Tressel & Meyer who have buried them.
.....oh add, michigan may win 11 games this year.
The problem is- Michigan of late can't out recruit Ohio State, certainly not out coach them.
Correct.
We broke Kizer.
Nope. Woodster. I'm a resident ND hatah, and I saw far too much of Kizer at the Golden Dome. Sashimi saw the big arm- and nothing else. He was exactly what I thought he was playing for the Browns, a mostly inaccurate cannon that threw far too many picks, and made terrible decisions with the football.
The problem is- Michigan of late can't out recruit Ohio State, certainly not out coach them.
Nope. Woodster. I'm a resident ND hatah, and I saw far too much of Kizer at the Golden Dome. Sashimi saw the big arm- and nothing else. He was exactly what I thought he was playing for the Browns, a mostly inaccurate cannon that threw far too many picks, and made terrible decisions with the football.
And he should have never been playing. That's the point.
Well actually the point is Haskins should head for the NFL while his stock is high instead of repeating Cardale's mistake. Kizer leaving (a situation where he'd arguably get better pro development) and getting thrown into the fire as a rookie much too soon doesn't mean Haskins shouldn't go pro.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
The problem is- Michigan of late can't out recruit Ohio State, certainly not out coach them.
Nope. Woodster. I'm a resident ND hatah, and I saw far too much of Kizer at the Golden Dome. Sashimi saw the big arm- and nothing else. He was exactly what I thought he was playing for the Browns, a mostly inaccurate cannon that threw far too many picks, and made terrible decisions with the football.
And he should have never been playing. That's the point.
Well actually the point is Haskins should head for the NFL while his stock is high instead of repeating Cardale's mistake. Kizer leaving (a situation where he'd arguably get better pro development) and getting thrown into the fire as a rookie much too soon doesn't mean Haskins shouldn't go pro.
And he should have never been playing. That's the point.
Well actually the point is Haskins should head for the NFL while his stock is high instead of repeating Cardale's mistake. Kizer leaving (a situation where he'd arguably get better pro development) and getting thrown into the fire as a rookie much too soon doesn't mean Haskins shouldn't go pro.
And MHO Haskins in no more pro ready than Kizer. Has better pro potential- but he's a notch below any of the top four 2018 QBs.... Lamar Jackson level...
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And he should have never been playing. That's the point.
Well actually the point is Haskins should head for the NFL while his stock is high instead of repeating Cardale's mistake. Kizer leaving (a situation where he'd arguably get better pro development) and getting thrown into the fire as a rookie much too soon doesn't mean Haskins shouldn't go pro.
And MHO Haskins in no more pro ready than Kizer. Has better pro potential- but he's a notch below any of the top four 2018 QBs.... Lamar Jackson level...
And MHO Haskins in no more pro ready than Kizer. Has better pro potential- but he's a notch below any of the top four 2018 QBs.... Lamar Jackson level...
and I don't think Haskins is going to get any more pro ready if he sticks around another year under Meyer. That isn't the offense he wants to run. The best development he could get is 2nd or 3rd string on an NFL team. Maybe coming in later in his rookie season.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I don’t like either him or his brother. They’re too arrogant to be long term winners.
Bill Belichick and his 5 Super Bowl rings disagree.
Bill Belichick and his 5 Super Bowl rings disagree.
Get back to us when he actually wins a Super Bowl legitimately and not mired in cheating scandals.
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Bill Belichick and his 5 Super Bowl rings disagree.
Get back to us when he actually wins a Super Bowl legitimately and not mired in cheating scandals.
Get back to us when he actually wins a Super Bowl legitimately and not mired in cheating scandals.
Awesome.
And when one or all of those Super Bowls get stricken from the records, it will matter.
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Bill Belichick and his 5 Super Bowl rings disagree.
Get back to us when he actually wins a Super Bowl legitimately and not mired in cheating scandals.
Get back to us when he actually wins a Super Bowl legitimately and not mired in cheating scandals.
The nfl never vacated any of their titles. The only illegitimate place is between your ears. They all count and none are contested. I don’t care for them but saying they can’t win is nonsense
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And MHO Haskins in no more pro ready than Kizer. Has better pro potential- but he's a notch below any of the top four 2018 QBs.... Lamar Jackson level...
and I don't think Haskins is going to get any more pro ready if he sticks around another year under Meyer. That isn't the offense he wants to run. The best development he could get is 2nd or 3rd string on an NFL team. Maybe coming in later in his rookie season.
and I don't think Haskins is going to get any more pro ready if he sticks around another year under Meyer. That isn't the offense he wants to run. The best development he could get is 2nd or 3rd string on an NFL team. Maybe coming in later in his rookie season.
The issue, to me, is not whether or not he can learn the pro system at OSU.....but whether he is mature enough really to handle going to the NFL And I just don't know if he is or isn't. His coaches and professional scouts are in a better position to decide that. And we will have another couple of games that he will be playing to see.
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Bill Belichick and his 5 Super Bowl rings disagree.
Get back to us when he actually wins a Super Bowl legitimately and not mired in cheating scandals.
Get back to us when he actually wins a Super Bowl legitimately and not mired in cheating scandals.
Or if he ever gets close to getting to one without TB at QB.
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Walter Football has Haskins as only the 8th best QB prospect:
image: http://walterfootball.com/college/OhioState_logo.gif
Dwayne Haskins*, QB, Ohio State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.78.
Projected Round (2019): 2-3.
11/22/18: Haskins flashes the ability to be a NFL quarterback, but he needs to become more consistent. In 2018, he has completed 69 percent of his passes for 3,280 yards with 33 touchdowns and six interceptions. Haskins struggled as a pocket passer against Penn State, among other games. As a sophomore, he completed 70 percent of his passes for 565 yards with four touchdowns and an interception.
Haskins has a strong arm with the potential to be a pocket passer who hurts defenses. He has talent, but there are stretches during which everything is just a little bit off with him. His decision-making is not consistent, and he makes some bad plays with ball security. Haskins' field vision needs to improve, and he has to get faster at working through progressions. His footwork also needs improvement, and his ball placement can be off. Haskins should return to Ohio State for 2019 to improve his overall play before going to the NFL. As a first-year starter, that is understandable, and he has upside to grow.
Read more: http://walterfootball.com/draft2019QB.php#ixzz5XynroCs4
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CBS does not rate him......as I do not think that he would be coming out:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/quarterbacks/quarterbacks
Draftek has Haskins as the 4th best QB prospect.
https://www.drafttek.com/2019-NFL-Draft-Prospect-Rankings/Top-QBs.asp
He is #2 prospect in this Newsday article:
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Get back to us when he actually wins a Super Bowl legitimately and not mired in cheating scandals.
The nfl never vacated any of their titles. The only illegitimate place is between your ears. They all count and none are contested. I don’t care for them but saying they can’t win is nonsense
The nfl never vacated any of their titles. The only illegitimate place is between your ears. They all count and none are contested. I don’t care for them but saying they can’t win is nonsense
So because their handpicked GM refuses to give more than slaps on the wrist for widespread, repeated cheating in every. Single. "Win." Somehow makes them legitimate? They are cheaters and Belichump was a fucking joke before he started cheating, point blank.
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Get back to us when he actually wins a Super Bowl legitimately and not mired in cheating scandals.
Or if he ever gets close to getting to one without TB at QB.
Or if he ever gets close to getting to one without TB at QB.
Again, let's see how good Tammy Brady is without having spy footage of opposing Defenses, deflated footballs and NFL Officials in his back pocket. Whenever any of those equations have been removed #12 has looked as average as his joke of a head coach.
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I don't want him and he'd be stupid to leave the cake job he has right now unless Michigan were to move on from him which I don't see happening.
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Or if he ever gets close to getting to one without TB at QB.
Again, let's see how good Tammy Brady is without having spy footage of opposing Defenses, deflated footballs and NFL Officials in his back pocket. Whenever any of those equations have been removed #12 has looked as average as his joke of a head coach.
Again, let's see how good Tammy Brady is without having spy footage of opposing Defenses, deflated footballs and NFL Officials in his back pocket. Whenever any of those equations have been removed #12 has looked as average as his joke of a head coach.
I see that you're salty and butthurt but if you think a few PSI off the ball is responsible for almost twenty years of utter dominance that is patently ridiculous.
If Brady is suffering from diminishing skills it is because he's 41 years old. That's ancient in football years.
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The nfl never vacated any of their titles. The only illegitimate place is between your ears. They all count and none are contested. I don’t care for them but saying they can’t win is nonsense
So because their handpicked GM refuses to give more than slaps on the wrist for widespread, repeated cheating in every. Single. "Win." Somehow makes them legitimate? They are cheaters and Belichump was a fucking joke before he started cheating, point blank.
So because their handpicked GM refuses to give more than slaps on the wrist for widespread, repeated cheating in every. Single. "Win." Somehow makes them legitimate? They are cheaters and Belichump was a fucking joke before he started cheating, point blank.
Lets not forget Gregg Williams cheated too.. They ALL CHEAT!
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Or if he ever gets close to getting to one without TB at QB.
Again, let's see how good Tammy Brady is without having spy footage of opposing Defenses, deflated footballs and NFL Officials in his back pocket. Whenever any of those equations have been removed #12 has looked as average as his joke of a head coach.
Again, let's see how good Tammy Brady is without having spy footage of opposing Defenses, deflated footballs and NFL Officials in his back pocket. Whenever any of those equations have been removed #12 has looked as average as his joke of a head coach.
These takes are so played out. Every time they're supposedly cheating they just come back and won again.
Not to mention deflate gate was complete bullshit and can be easily explained with science.
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