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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @nickers said:

    Not only that... He wouldn't have the say kind of autonomy that he does now to control and recruit the talent that he does now on the roster......

    Maybe its just me, but I don't see why a NFL HC gig would be a step up from being HC at a place like Ohio State. You get paid as well, you get to recruit who you want, and because players only stick around for 3-5 years, your message has a far less chance to get stale. 

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    @dutch-oven said:

    Maybe its just me, but I don't see why a NFL HC gig would be a step up from being HC at a place like Ohio State. You get paid as well, you get to recruit who you want, and because players only stick around for 3-5 years, your message has a far less chance to get stale. 

    Absolutely nailed it. Take Lincoln Riley for example. What's he make...maybe $5 million a year plus whatever endorsements? What is he...36 years old? Jesus, you'd have to be the DUMBEST guy on the planet to leave a college football powerhouse and head to the NFL. And it's not just the money, it's being treated like a king, the notoriety, the "big fish in a little pond" effect. 

    I totally understand leaving college to coach in the pros if it is a man's dream because dreams should be pursued, but I personally think it would be an act of lunacy to leave a stable college situation. 

    $5 million a year.....do you realize how many people I could help with that money? How many lives could be touched by making $5 million a year or more during the typical tenure of a college coach? Riley is in his 30's, so how many years does he have left to coach? The money doesn't make sense. Most of my clients are on social security disability or VA disability, and their average income is around $1000 a month. Ugh....it just blows my mind. 

    Sorry for the weird tangent. Working with people in poverty just really changes the way you look at money. I mean, how much does one family really need, man. And here I am scrabbling together every loose buck from extended resources in an attempt to buy a couple Christmas presents for a few children. 

    OK, I'll stop. Mind is just racing. Back to the coaching subject. 

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    • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

      @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

      Urban Meyer? If he ever comes to the NFL, this seems like a really good opportunity...

      Is he a Browns fan?

      Have you actually watched him on the sideline this season?

      Dude might have to give up coaching for good. He's a mess medically. 

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      CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by
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      @dutch-oven said:

      Have you actually watched him on the sideline this season?

      Dude might have to give up coaching for good. He's a mess medically. 

      Fair point. I just think he’s not the type to stop because of his health scares.

      The dude is kinda relentless. 

      It would be a hell of an opportunity for a coach of his status to come to the league.

      I think Williams will keep the job though.

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        if it's working and it's not broken, don't mess with it. Let Williams run the table, if they play lights out, win out or close to it. Keep him.

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          C Chicopee John wrote on last edited by Chicopee John
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          Health problems or no health problems, I don't believe Dorsey would want to taint his organization with Meyer.

          He has always been a wolf but to those who live in OH, he simply now wears sheep clothing.

          Wouldn't be considered even if he wanted the job.

          "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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            Health problems or no health problems, I don't believe Dorsey would want to taint his organization with Meyer.

            He has always been a wolf but to those who live in OH, he simply now wears sheep clothing.

            Wouldn't be considered even if he wanted the job.

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            CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS
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            @chicopee-john said:

            Health problems or no health problems, I don't believe Dorsey would want to taint his organization with Meyer.

            He has always been a wolf but to those who live in OH, he simply now wears sheep clothing.

            Wouldn't be considered even if he wanted the job.

            I’d figure Ohio state fans to be all over the idea. Anyways, he’s from Ashtabula I believe(my late grandma had a cottage on the lake) so that’s pretty homegrown. Nothing but Browns fans there and some Steeler fans.

            I wouldn’t go so far as to say he wouldn’t be considered when you have Adam Schefter reporting that Condaleezza Rice is a potential candidate. 

            And for the record NFL head coaches make 5 million annually easy.

            Sean Payton and Pete Carroll each make 9 mills. Bellicheck over 10, and then there is Gruden.

            This is the most attractive potential HC job to be had on the market. 

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              @chicopee-john said:

              Health problems or no health problems, I don't believe Dorsey would want to taint his organization with Meyer.

              He has always been a wolf but to those who live in OH, he simply now wears sheep clothing.

              Wouldn't be considered even if he wanted the job.

              I’d figure Ohio state fans to be all over the idea. Anyways, he’s from Ashtabula I believe(my late grandma had a cottage on the lake) so that’s pretty homegrown. Nothing but Browns fans there and some Steeler fans.

              I wouldn’t go so far as to say he wouldn’t be considered when you have Adam Schefter reporting that Condaleezza Rice is a potential candidate. 

              And for the record NFL head coaches make 5 million annually easy.

              Sean Payton and Pete Carroll each make 9 mills. Bellicheck over 10, and then there is Gruden.

              This is the most attractive potential HC job to be had on the market. 

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              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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              @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

              This is the most attractive potential HC job to be had on the market. 

              If the Haslams stay out of the way, yes indeed. 

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                flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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                If the team keeps responding to this coaching staff the way it has been..... you stand pat. Sheesh! Only a damn fool would blow up a winning combination. Dorsey reminds me of anything but. 

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                  darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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                  I wonder how many head coaches would be interested in the job if the conditions of the hire are that the OC and DC remain in their posts ......basically not allowing new HC to make staff appointments in those positions ...... would leaving Kitchens and Williams as coordinators be a deal breaker for most coaches ?

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                    I wonder how many head coaches would be interested in the job if the conditions of the hire are that the OC and DC remain in their posts ......basically not allowing new HC to make staff appointments in those positions ...... would leaving Kitchens and Williams as coordinators be a deal breaker for most coaches ?

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                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                    @darren15 said:

                    I wonder how many head coaches would be interested in the job if the conditions of the hire are that the OC and DC remain in their posts ......basically not allowing new HC to make staff appointments in those positions ...... would leaving Kitchens and Williams as coordinators be a deal breaker for most coaches ?

                    Yes. 

                    Only a guy desperate to get a head coaching gig would accept those conditions, unless by some weird coincidence the candidate has prior work experience with both and would be fine with having them in those positions. 

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                    • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

                      @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                      Urban Meyer? If he ever comes to the NFL, this seems like a really good opportunity...

                      Is he a Browns fan?

                      Have you actually watched him on the sideline this season?

                      Dude might have to give up coaching for good. He's a mess medically. 

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                      FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                      @dutch-oven said:

                      Have you actually watched him on the sideline this season?

                      Dude might have to give up coaching for good. He's a mess medically. 

                      ? He meant well anyway.    But yeah, the solution to severe head aches from an inoperable tumor is not the Head Coach position for the Cleveland Browns.   Having said that, whoever does have that position when this franchise starts winning again will represent the closest thing we've seen to anybody walking on water.  Stay tuned...

                      I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                      • darren15D darren15

                        I wonder how many head coaches would be interested in the job if the conditions of the hire are that the OC and DC remain in their posts ......basically not allowing new HC to make staff appointments in those positions ...... would leaving Kitchens and Williams as coordinators be a deal breaker for most coaches ?

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                        FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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                        @darren15 said:

                        I wonder how many head coaches would be interested in the job if the conditions of the hire are that the OC and DC remain in their posts ......basically not allowing new HC to make staff appointments in those positions ...... would leaving Kitchens and Williams as coordinators be a deal breaker for most coaches ?

                        If we complete the next 5 games with a consensus feeling that Kitchens and WILL-I-AMs are GOTTA KEEP,  the only thing we're prolly losing is the word "Interim" in front of the "Head Coach" title.  I've been wrong before though...

                        New coaches, new systems, and new philosophies won't seem compatible with progress we're seeing.  When is the last time we've seen a rookie QB put together a 3 week period like Baker has?   And when have we had a defense that has had us leading the turnover differential for the length of time this team has done it before slipping to #2 overall?  Throwing out the staff - will undoubtedly have us purging out guys that we're progressing as keepers and creating way more turnover than necessary.  We've seen this sequel enough times to know exactly how it ends. 

                        I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                          Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                          Just fired by the Green Bay Packers

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                            L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                            Please. Please. NO

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                              Please. Please. NO

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                              @londonbrown said:

                              Please. Please. NO

                              I agree with you.

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                                L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                                That's another team looking for a HC, GB is always an attractive option for any HC as well, not ideal

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                                  V VikingDawg wrote on last edited by
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                                  McCarthy is heading to Cleveland, bank on it. 

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                                    McCarthy is heading to Cleveland, bank on it. 

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                                    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                                    @vikingdawg said:

                                    McCarthy is heading to Cleveland, bank on it. 

                                    Then I just may be heading on out...... 

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                                      Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                                      He’s better then any coach the Browns have had since 1999

                                      "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                        He’s better then any coach the Browns have had since 1999

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                                        @browns149 said:

                                        He’s better then any coach the Browns have had since 1999

                                        He is better then any coach the Browns have had since Paul Brown. 

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                                          @browns149 said:

                                          He’s better then any coach the Browns have had since 1999

                                          He is better then any coach the Browns have had since Paul Brown. 

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                                          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @vikingdawg said:

                                          He is better then any coach the Browns have had since Paul Brown. 

                                          Very true

                                          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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