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Defense Secretary Mattis 'retiring' at end of February

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  • So now advanced degrees are in eh? And not a lick of military exp on that resume or am i not seeing it? A boeing enginerr for sec of defense? I mean, is this for real? Did we critisize the tillerson pick for this very reason and, well, we know what happened there......

    I mean trump is lost, utterly.

    DH, all bullshit aside....are u ok with a def sec that never even went through boot camp?

  • Oh dear god he's a supply chain kunt ontop of everything else. Dear god even hillary would beat this clown show in 2020......

  • Oh dear god he's a supply chain kunt ontop of everything else. Dear god even hillary would beat this clown show in 2020......

    @clevfan4life said:

    Oh dear god he's a supply chain kunt ontop of everything else. Dear god even hillary would beat this clown show in 2020......

    Don't worry. Soon the Dems will take ove and we can send the troops back into the shithole

    WSS

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Oh dear god he's a supply chain kunt ontop of everything else. Dear god even hillary would beat this clown show in 2020......

    Don't worry. Soon the Dems will take ove and we can send the troops back into the shithole

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Don't worry. Soon the Dems will take ove and we can send the troops back into the shithole

    WSS

    The dems and the MSM would all be cheering if under Obama our military had taken back all the territory that ISIS held and then pulled our troops out.

  • This new guy has advanced degrees...and no military experience. This is all really dumb.

  • CJ was of course too much of a coward to tell Mattis that his being replaced early. He had his Secretary of State do it. To have president that is not only a moron, but a scared little bitch too. 

  • CJ was of course too much of a coward to tell Mattis that his being replaced early. He had his Secretary of State do it. To have president that is not only a moron, but a scared little bitch too. 

    @cccjwh said:

    CJ was of course too much of a coward to tell Mattis that his being replaced early. He had his Secretary of State do it. To have president that is not only a moron, but a scared little bitch too. 

    Whether or not you agree with the general and believe that we should keep troops in the Middle East indefinitely for what reason would you keep somebody for two more months who is in complete opposition of the policies you've set?

    WSS

  • @cccjwh said:

    CJ was of course too much of a coward to tell Mattis that his being replaced early. He had his Secretary of State do it. To have president that is not only a moron, but a scared little bitch too. 

    Whether or not you agree with the general and believe that we should keep troops in the Middle East indefinitely for what reason would you keep somebody for two more months who is in complete opposition of the policies you've set?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Whether or not you agree with the general and believe that we should keep troops in the Middle East and definitely for what reason would you keep somebody for two more months who is in complete opposition of the policies you've set?

    WSS

    Soldiers follow orders, it's kind of a requirement of the job. Here hoping the GOP grows some balls and only confirm a qualify person as the new SOD.

    This is why you don't elected a draft dodger of the command in chief. "A leopard doesn't change his spots"

  • @westside-steve said:

    Whether or not you agree with the general and believe that we should keep troops in the Middle East and definitely for what reason would you keep somebody for two more months who is in complete opposition of the policies you've set?

    WSS

    Soldiers follow orders, it's kind of a requirement of the job. Here hoping the GOP grows some balls and only confirm a qualify person as the new SOD.

    This is why you don't elected a draft dodger of the command in chief. "A leopard doesn't change his spots"

    @cccjwh said:

    Soldiers follow orders, it's kind of a requirement of the job. Here hoping the GOP grows some balls and only confirm a qualify person as the new SOD.

    This is why you don't elected a draft dodger of the command in chief. "A leopard doesn't change his spots"

    Apparently not all soldiers follow orders.  And neither Bill Clinton nor Barack Obama spent any time in anything close to the military. And W, just barely.

    If a soldier finds it impossible to do what the commander-in-chief has asked it's time for him to go.

    WSS

  • @cccjwh said:

    Soldiers follow orders, it's kind of a requirement of the job. Here hoping the GOP grows some balls and only confirm a qualify person as the new SOD.

    This is why you don't elected a draft dodger of the command in chief. "A leopard doesn't change his spots"

    Apparently not all soldiers follow orders.  And neither Bill Clinton nor Barack Obama spent any time in anything close to the military. And W, just barely.

    If a soldier finds it impossible to do what the commander-in-chief has asked it's time for him to go.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Apparently not all soldiers follow orders.  And neither Bill Clinton nor Barack Obama spent any time in anything close to the military. And W, just barely.

    If a soldier finds it impossible to do what the commander-in-chief has asked it's time for him to go.

    WSS

    OBAMA and BILL!!, well then that makes it OK? If a soldier finds it impossible to continue to do stupid things they resign and give the moron in chief time to get a new SOD confirmed. Because having a coward/moron, then a nerd as the two heads of the military is fucking stupid. 

  • SECDEF's take their advice from the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the intelligence agencies.  Who in turn take their advice from the Fleet commanders and Generals.  Ultimate responsiblity always is the President's.  And quite frankly, I no longer trust Trump.  If Mattis doesn't, I don't.  

  • @westside-steve said:

    http://editions.lib.umn.edu/smartpolitics/2011/04/28/how-many-us-secretaries-of-def/

    Four of these six men without military service were appointed by Republican presidents: Charles Wilson (Eisenhower), Neil McElroy (Eisenhower), James Schlesinger (Nixon), and Dick Cheney (George H.W. Bush).

    Eisenhower and Bush both had military service. What a great comparison with Nixon.

  • @westside-steve said:

    http://editions.lib.umn.edu/smartpolitics/2011/04/28/how-many-us-secretaries-of-def/

    Four of these six men without military service were appointed by Republican presidents: Charles Wilson (Eisenhower), Neil McElroy (Eisenhower), James Schlesinger (Nixon), and Dick Cheney (George H.W. Bush).

    Eisenhower and Bush both had military service. What a great comparison with Nixon.

    @cccjwh said:

    Four of these six men without military service were appointed by Republican presidents: Charles Wilson (Eisenhower), Neil McElroy (Eisenhower), James Schlesinger (Nixon), and Dick Cheney (George H.W. Bush).

    Eisenhower and Bush both had military service. What a great comparison with Nixon.

    So what?

    WSS

  • @cccjwh said:

    Four of these six men without military service were appointed by Republican presidents: Charles Wilson (Eisenhower), Neil McElroy (Eisenhower), James Schlesinger (Nixon), and Dick Cheney (George H.W. Bush).

    Eisenhower and Bush both had military service. What a great comparison with Nixon.

    So what?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    So what?

    WSS

    Well if the Commander in Chief has military experience it makes it less important for the SOD to have military experience. When you have a draft dodging coward as president it makes it even more important to have a SOD with military experience. Hey it's not like we are fighting any wars right now, oh wait....

  • SECDEF's take their advice from the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the intelligence agencies.  Who in turn take their advice from the Fleet commanders and Generals.  Ultimate responsiblity always is the President's.  And quite frankly, I no longer trust Trump.  If Mattis doesn't, I don't.  

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    SECDEF's take their advice from the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the intelligence agencies.  Who in turn take their advice from the Fleet commanders and Generals.  Ultimate responsiblity always is the President's.  And quite frankly, I no longer trust Trump.  If Mattis doesn't, I don't.  

    I think arguments can be made on either side of pulling our troops out of Syria. I respect Mattis but I haven't been on board with some of the things he has said such  as:

    1. Opposed moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem.
    2. Opposed cancelling the Iran nuclear deal.
    3. Insisted on arming and training the Hezbollah-controlled Lebanese military.
    4. Opposed transgender ban in military and supported paying for the surgery.
    5. Said Tel Aviv is Israel's capital.

    *Mattis also opposed the United States getting out of the Paris Climate Accord.

  • I'm hoping someone steps up and runs against Trump in the primaries.  Trump doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning in 2020.

  • I'm hoping someone steps up and runs against Trump in the primaries.  Trump doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning in 2020.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I'm hoping someone steps up and runs against Trump in the primaries.  Trump doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning in 2020.

    It will be a socialist / Democrat. Get used to it.

    WSS

  • I'm hoping someone steps up and runs against Trump in the primaries.  Trump doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning in 2020.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I'm hoping someone steps up and runs against Trump in the primaries.  Trump doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning in 2020.

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  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I'm hoping someone steps up and runs against Trump in the primaries.  Trump doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning in 2020.

    It will be a socialist / Democrat. Get used to it.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    It will be a socialist / Democrat. Get used to it.

    WSS

    I had 8 years of Billy Bog and 8 years of Obammy.  Mattis should run.