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  • W Westside Steve

    @tiamat63 said:

    Illegal immigration has happened long before Obama took office and will be here long after Trump is gone.  

    So if Jose' slips between a crack in the wall and offs a cop,  is it the guy who poured the cements fault? 

    Yes. It always has and it always will. And again I'm not positive the wall is Going to Be an absolutely Effective deterrent because the bulk of them get in by overstaying Visa. But recently it's Obama's supporters and the left wing of the democratic party who are adamant about open borders. Elimination of ice. Sanctuary cities. And Obama is their spirit guide. So I know you would rather spread out the blame but I don't think Jack Kennedy's immigration laws have anything to do with this. ?

    WSS

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    @westside-steve said:

    Yes. It always has and it always will. And again I'm not positive the wall is Going to Be an absolutely Effective deterrent because the bulk of them get in by overstaying Visa. But recently it's Obama's supporters and the left wing of the democratic party who are adamant about open borders. Elimination of ice. Sanctuary cities. And Obama is their spirit guide. So I know you would rather spread out the blame but I don't think Jack Kennedy's immigration laws have anything to do with this. ?

    WSS

    There are more white supremacists in the GOP then there are "open border" Democratic. Right wing nut job's talking point.

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      @westside-steve said:

      Yes. It always has and it always will. And again I'm not positive the wall is Going to Be an absolutely Effective deterrent because the bulk of them get in by overstaying Visa. But recently it's Obama's supporters and the left wing of the democratic party who are adamant about open borders. Elimination of ice. Sanctuary cities. And Obama is their spirit guide. So I know you would rather spread out the blame but I don't think Jack Kennedy's immigration laws have anything to do with this. ?

      WSS

      Dont care to spread out blame.   Just curious how long before the blame is shifted and to whom. 

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      @tiamat63 said:

      Dont care to spread out blame.   Just curious how long before the blame is shifted and to whom. 

      Hard to tell. For eight years of the Obama Administration it was George W Bush. I'm not sure if you are actually Democrat but if so who and your party do you think would be ahead of Barack Obama in terms of leadership and respect in? Bill Clinton? Hilary? Cortez? 

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      • cccjwhC cccjwh

        @westside-steve said:

        Yes. It always has and it always will. And again I'm not positive the wall is Going to Be an absolutely Effective deterrent because the bulk of them get in by overstaying Visa. But recently it's Obama's supporters and the left wing of the democratic party who are adamant about open borders. Elimination of ice. Sanctuary cities. And Obama is their spirit guide. So I know you would rather spread out the blame but I don't think Jack Kennedy's immigration laws have anything to do with this. ?

        WSS

        There are more white supremacists in the GOP then there are "open border" Democratic. Right wing nut job's talking point.

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        @cccjwh said:

        There are more white supremacists in the GOP then there are "open border" Democratic. Right wing nut job's talking point.

        Well I don't think you know what you're talking about but let's assume you have stumbled onto the truth this time. Then I asked you who cares?

        How many Sanctuary cities are Sanctuary states are there compared to how many cities or states where slavery is allowed or whatever you guys are whining about today?

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        • W Westside Steve

          @tiamat63 said:

          Dont care to spread out blame.   Just curious how long before the blame is shifted and to whom. 

          Hard to tell. For eight years of the Obama Administration it was George W Bush. I'm not sure if you are actually Democrat but if so who and your party do you think would be ahead of Barack Obama in terms of leadership and respect in? Bill Clinton? Hilary? Cortez? 

          WSS

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          @westside-steve said:

          Hard to tell. For eight years of the Obama Administration it was George W Bush. I'm not sure if you are actually Democrat but if so who and your party do you think would be ahead of Barack Obama in terms of leadership and respect in? Bill Clinton? Hilary? Cortez? 

          WSS

          Well two wars and the worst recession since the great depression is a lot. About 1 million wounded warriors from the wars well take another 60-70 years to recover from. Economy is about 3/4 of the way there.

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          • W Westside Steve

            @cccjwh said:

            There are more white supremacists in the GOP then there are "open border" Democratic. Right wing nut job's talking point.

            Well I don't think you know what you're talking about but let's assume you have stumbled onto the truth this time. Then I asked you who cares?

            How many Sanctuary cities are Sanctuary states are there compared to how many cities or states where slavery is allowed or whatever you guys are whining about today?

            WSS

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            @westside-steve said:

            Well I don't think you know what you're talking about but let's assume you have stumbled onto the truth this time. Then I asked you who cares?

            How many Sanctuary cities are Sanctuary states are there compared to how many cities or states where slavery is allowed or whatever you guys are whining about today?

            WSS

            It matters because you are trying to pass far left ideology for main stream. So if all/most of the left wants open borders, then the right about a bunch of racists.

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              @westside-steve said:

              Well I don't think you know what you're talking about but let's assume you have stumbled onto the truth this time. Then I asked you who cares?

              How many Sanctuary cities are Sanctuary states are there compared to how many cities or states where slavery is allowed or whatever you guys are whining about today?

              WSS

              It matters because you are trying to pass far left ideology for main stream. So if all/most of the left wants open borders, then the right about a bunch of racists.

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              Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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              @cccjwh said:

              then the right about a bunch of racists.

              Go read Lebron James' latest Tweets and get back to me on the racists remarks.

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              • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

                @cccjwh said:

                then the right about a bunch of racists.

                Go read Lebron James' latest Tweets and get back to me on the racists remarks.

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                @canton-dawg said:

                Go read Lebron James' latest Tweets and get back to me on the racists remarks.

                Read the thread and get back to me when you are able to understand the point I was making.

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                • cccjwhC cccjwh

                  @canton-dawg said:

                  Go read Lebron James' latest Tweets and get back to me on the racists remarks.

                  Read the thread and get back to me when you are able to understand the point I was making.

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                  Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                  @cccjwh said:

                  Read the thread and get back to me when you are able to understand the point I was making.

                  I read the entire thread, you obviously don't understand the point I was making.

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                  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

                    @cccjwh said:

                    Read the thread and get back to me when you are able to understand the point I was making.

                    I read the entire thread, you obviously don't understand the point I was making.

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                    cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by
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                    @canton-dawg said:

                    I read the entire thread, you obviously don't understand the point I was making.

                    I understand it. It just have nothing to do with me point. 

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                    • cccjwhC cccjwh

                      @westside-steve said:

                      Hard to tell. For eight years of the Obama Administration it was George W Bush. I'm not sure if you are actually Democrat but if so who and your party do you think would be ahead of Barack Obama in terms of leadership and respect in? Bill Clinton? Hilary? Cortez? 

                      WSS

                      Well two wars and the worst recession since the great depression is a lot. About 1 million wounded warriors from the wars well take another 60-70 years to recover from. Economy is about 3/4 of the way there.

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                      @cccjwh said:

                      Well two wars and the worst recession since the great depression is a lot. About 1 million wounded warriors from the wars well take another 60-70 years to recover from. Economy is about 3/4 of the way there.

                      Two Wars? Afghanistan? Your boy Obama kept rolling for 8 years. And the recession that began ironically the minute the Democrats took the house just like this one. Except this isn't a recession yet, just a big big dip.

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                      • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

                        @cccjwh said:

                        Read the thread and get back to me when you are able to understand the point I was making.

                        I read the entire thread, you obviously don't understand the point I was making.

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                        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                        @canton-dawg said:

                        I read the entire thread, you obviously don't understand the point I was making.

                        Theres a reason for that. Hint: its not him its you. 

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                          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          Lebron dug himself out of the ghetto inspite of whitey, and made something of himself.

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                          • W Westside Steve

                            @cccjwh said:

                            Well two wars and the worst recession since the great depression is a lot. About 1 million wounded warriors from the wars well take another 60-70 years to recover from. Economy is about 3/4 of the way there.

                            Two Wars? Afghanistan? Your boy Obama kept rolling for 8 years. And the recession that began ironically the minute the Democrats took the house just like this one. Except this isn't a recession yet, just a big big dip.

                            WSS

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                            cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by
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                            @westside-steve said:

                            Two Wars? Afghanistan? Your boy Obama kept rolling for 8 years. And the recession that began ironically the minute the Democrats took the house just like this one. Except this isn't a recession yet, just a big big dip.

                            WSS

                            Yes the two wars started by Bush - Commander in Chief is the guy who started the two wars. The two wars have push the VA way beyond it ability to provide quality health care to veterans. Irony <> causation. An example a causation is the GOP getting voted out because they ran the economy into the ground.

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                            • cccjwhC cccjwh

                              @westside-steve said:

                              Two Wars? Afghanistan? Your boy Obama kept rolling for 8 years. And the recession that began ironically the minute the Democrats took the house just like this one. Except this isn't a recession yet, just a big big dip.

                              WSS

                              Yes the two wars started by Bush - Commander in Chief is the guy who started the two wars. The two wars have push the VA way beyond it ability to provide quality health care to veterans. Irony <> causation. An example a causation is the GOP getting voted out because they ran the economy into the ground.

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                              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                              @cccjwh said:

                              Yes the two wars started by Bush - Commander in Chief is the guy who started the two wars. The two wars have push the VA way beyond it ability to provide quality health care to veterans. Irony <> causation. An example a causation is the GOP getting voted out because they ran the economy into the ground.

                              I hate to clue you but the VA has been having problems way before the two wars.  

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                                @cccjwh said:

                                Yes the two wars started by Bush - Commander in Chief is the guy who started the two wars. The two wars have push the VA way beyond it ability to provide quality health care to veterans. Irony <> causation. An example a causation is the GOP getting voted out because they ran the economy into the ground.

                                I hate to clue you but the VA has been having problems way before the two wars.  

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                                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                I hate to clue you but the VA has been having problems way before the two wars.  

                                And adding another 900k veterans that need care sure will make it easier to fix the problems. <-- this is sarcasm calf. 

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                                  So if the wall is built and this happens still,  who then will you blame? 

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                                  @tiamat63 said:

                                  So if the wall is built and this happens still,  who then will you blame? 

                                  dems, leftists, and illegal sombeitches. that's who.

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                                    @tiamat63 said:

                                    So if the wall is built and this happens still,  who then will you blame? 

                                    dems, leftists, and illegal sombeitches. that's who.

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                                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @calfoxwc said:

                                    dems, leftists, and illegal sombeitches. that's who.

                                    So everyone but the person responsible...

                                    Isn't this the opposite to your argument re: gun control?

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                                      @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                      I hate to clue you but the VA has been having problems way before the two wars.  

                                      And adding another 900k veterans that need care sure will make it easier to fix the problems. <-- this is sarcasm calf. 

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                                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                      @cccjwh said:

                                      And adding another 900k veterans that need care sure will make it easier to fix the problems. <-- this is sarcasm calf. 

                                      You have no clue.  I worked for the VA as a Temp between the Army and Navy tours.  Worked there from Oct 1975 to Jan 1976.  Brecksville VA was primarily a psychiatric facility.  I saw patients lying in the vending machine areas on the floors.  No one checked on them.  It's a hell of a lot better now.  I go there.  The medical staffs are quite good.  It's the admin types that are fucked up.

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                                        @calfoxwc said:

                                        dems, leftists, and illegal sombeitches. that's who.

                                        So everyone but the person responsible...

                                        Isn't this the opposite to your argument re: gun control?

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                                        @tiamat63 said:

                                        So everyone but the person responsible...

                                        Isn't this the opposite to your argument re: gun control?

                                        the people I mentioned are responsible for allowing illegals to flood here. They insist on open borders to denigrate the American voters demographic, since it's been claimed that only 33% of poor hispanics vote republican.

                                        The dems are deliberately flooding the American voter demographic. NOTE: they are trying to turn red states blue.

                                        It's about winning all elections, they can't do it now, so....

                                        and that is allowing criminal elements into our country.

                                        and, if that dangerous, unvetted illegal hadn't been able to just walk across our open border, that young father and husband and police officer would be alive today.

                                           Don't you care?

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                                          https://www.theblaze.com/news/illegal-immigrant-cop-killer-captured

                                          What else did the sheriff say?

                                          Christianson told reporters that the suspect had two prior DUIs but sanctuary laws protected him from being reported to Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

                                          "We can't ignore the fact that this could have been preventable if law enforcement would not have been prohibited from sharing any of his information with ICE," the sheriff said.

                                          Arriaga, a Mexican national, is believed to have crossed into the U.S. illegally several years ago, according to authorities.

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