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  • @texasag1969 said:

    I was going Rosen's way until the concussion problems and switched to Darnold. He's starting to come around to be a pretty good QB in the long run, but Baker was truly a nice surprise for me. I'm glad we got him now in hindsight.?

    That's almost exactly how I went. Had Rosen #1, but his injury history and the nagging doubts about his leadership abilities weighed on me, and Darnold jumped him towards the end of the draft season for me. (With the idea that Darnold should sit as long as possible, since I thought he should have gone back to USC). Baker was #3 for me, intriguing somewhat but honestly I didn't know what to think of him. Josh Allen was #148 on my wish list of QBs. ?

    @dutch-oven said:

    That's almost exactly how I went. Had Rosen #1, but his injury history and the nagging doubts about his leadership abilities weighed on me, and Darnold jumped him towards the end of the draft season for me. (With the idea that Darnold should sit as long as possible, since I thought he should have gone back to USC). Baker was #3 for me, intriguing somewhat but honestly I didn't know what to think of him. Josh Allen was #148 on my wish list of QBs. ?

    Josh Allen (Ky) is on my wish list this year though.?

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I was going Rosen's way until the concussion problems and switched to Darnold. He's starting to come around to be a pretty good QB in the long run, but Baker was truly a nice surprise for me. I'm glad we got him now in hindsight.?

    That's almost exactly how I went. Had Rosen #1, but his injury history and the nagging doubts about his leadership abilities weighed on me, and Darnold jumped him towards the end of the draft season for me. (With the idea that Darnold should sit as long as possible, since I thought he should have gone back to USC). Baker was #3 for me, intriguing somewhat but honestly I didn't know what to think of him. Josh Allen was #148 on my wish list of QBs. ?

    @dutch-oven said:

    That's almost exactly how I went. Had Rosen #1, but his injury history and the nagging doubts about his leadership abilities weighed on me, and Darnold jumped him towards the end of the draft season for me. (With the idea that Darnold should sit as long as possible, since I thought he should have gone back to USC). Baker was #3 for me, intriguing somewhat but honestly I didn't know what to think of him. Josh Allen was #148 on my wish list of QBs. ?

    Nope had Darnold (protypical size) and Mayfield (crazy accurate) 1A and 1B. Glad we went with Baker. Had concerns about Rosen's concussions and durability. Thought Allen was too inaccurate, and Jackson was another Black Tarkenton.

  • I went back and watched a lot of Baker Mayfield videos (I do this once or twice a month, hehe).  I especially love the Brian Baldinger breakdowns, but there are many other videos to watch as well.  Highlights on Youtube from the games, the “Every Baker Mayfield Throw/Run” videos, and whatever else.  After watching these, there are several things that stand out from a positive (mostly), and a few aspects to work on, as you’d expect. 

    The most glaring aspect of Baker’s game that stands out when you first watch him is the rare accuracy he possesses, especially on short and intermediate ranges, and then throwing on the run, too.  The accuracy is made more noticeable due to the fact we watched so many Deshone Kizer games last year, and one of the many frustrations the team and fans faced was the glaring lack of accuracy.  I can recall 3 plays off the top of my head where Kizer missed Rashard Higgins on easy TD throws, virtually all of them variations of the “slant” route.  These 3 were either picked off or fell incomplete, and I bring these specific examples up because we know that everything is compressed in the red zone, and the margin of error is greatly reduced. 

    Before the draft, I was screaming to draft Mayfield, and the primary reason was his accuracy.  Not only did Mayfield complete a high percentage of passes, when you watched the tape, you noticed the passes were typically delivered where the receiver could acquire extra yardage.  Not to keep hammering Kizer, but how many times last year would we have a receiver open, and Kizer would complete the pass, but the receiver had to dive low, or reach back, or completely stop in order to make the catch?  I don’t have the numbers, but I’m guessing we were dead last in YAC, or close to it.  After watching a full season of virtually no yards after catch, accuracy was number 1 on my list for a rookie QB. 

    You want another example?  Do you guys remember last year how many times we tried to execute the “fade pass”?  Good grief, how many balls did Kizer throw into the stands?  To the other team?  We literally kept trying and trying it, but I don’t know if Kizer EVER got it right.  Enter Baker Mayfield.  Against Oakland, Baker tries a corner route to Landry for his first ever “fade” type route, and it was a perfect pass and a TD.  I didn’t love the playcall because we were at like the 1 yard line, and there’s no margin for error on that play.  Well, Baker threw a perfect pass and Landry tapped both feet in. 

    Go back and watch the aforementioned videos on Baker, especially the “Every Baker Mayfield Throw/Run” videos on Youtube and pay attention to where the ball typically hits receivers.  His ability to hit receivers “chin level” with the ball is uncanny, and the ball is also whistling.  I don’t think ANYBODY thought his arm was as live as it is. 

    In terms of the negatives, there really isn’t much.  Early on, Baker’s deep ball wasn’t as accurate as I’d like, and he missed Callaway for a few easy TDs.  However, that seems to be somewhat rectified, and Baker has really put some long balls RIGHT on the money.  That one to Landry in between 3 people was probably the best throw of the season (that or the Tyrod pass to Callaway in New Orleans.  That was a BOMB).  Furthermore, the uber bomb to Perriman was simply gross, and had Perriman not stumbled, he would’ve scored.  That toss was literally 60 yards in the air (almost I think). 

    Another negative could be Baker’s ball security.  He’s very elusive and he wants to extend plays, which is amazing, but there have been a handful of times where he didn’t protect the ball.  Again, I’m kind of reaching here because, frankly, Baker has had one of the best rookie QB seasons in NFL history, but there are always things to work on.  In fact, Baker really should’ve fumbled against the Bengals Sunday when he ran for that 1st down on 3rd and 8.  It was an incredible run, but as Baker extended for the 1st, a Bengal player came from behind and chopped his arm.  That ball should’ve come out because Baker didn’t see him, but Baker quickly secured it and fell for the first down. 

    The only other negative from a playing standpoint is Baker understanding the value of points before halftime.  As mentioned before, Baker has thrown 3 interceptions right before half, deep in the opposition’s territory.  Each time he had other receivers wide open, or had room to run.  It’s great to get the homerun, but sometimes all you need is the looping single to centerfield.  It’s one of the only mistakes I’ve seen him repeat. 

    I’m sorry this has been so long, but I had fun writing it and watching the videos on Mayfield.  I could fill 2 more pages with ease on this kid, but I’ll save everyone the pain and suffering.  It’s an exciting time to be a Browns fan, and that’s the first time we could say that in forever.  I don’t want people to panic if Baker puts up a rather ugly game this weekend, as the Ravens’ defense made Phillip Rivers look less than human, and we know what he did to us.  While it’s true that we beat the Ratbirds already, we didn’t beat them with Lamar Jackson, and their defense is literally taking over games.  If you live around Cleveland, I suggest you find a way to get season tickets because we have the guy now.  We have the guy that our kids will be talking about when they’re our age.  It’s a new era in Cleveland, and it’s going to be a lot of fun. 

  • Sort of OT, but didn't know where to post it. 🙂   

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  • I was NO fan of Rosen as a pick. But seriously? Josh Allen plays heroic with his legs, but the lack of talent around him,

    he isn't adapting to the pro game well. And he is still very inaccurate. Makes bad decisions.

       With more talent, going on his second year, I hope he grows and has a good career.

    I overrated him bigly.

    Mayfield - questioned his maturity, self-discipline - lack of snaps under center.

    Mayfield turns out to be the star of the draft, probable? Offensive rookie of the year...

    Dorsey is brilliant. I did really like Chubb over Sony, and Barkley.

    Just amazing how Mayfield adapted, and led this team to wins. Just brilliant.

  • I was NO fan of Rosen as a pick. But seriously? Josh Allen plays heroic with his legs, but the lack of talent around him,

    he isn't adapting to the pro game well. And he is still very inaccurate. Makes bad decisions.

       With more talent, going on his second year, I hope he grows and has a good career.

    I overrated him bigly.

    Mayfield - questioned his maturity, self-discipline - lack of snaps under center.

    Mayfield turns out to be the star of the draft, probable? Offensive rookie of the year...

    Dorsey is brilliant. I did really like Chubb over Sony, and Barkley.

    Just amazing how Mayfield adapted, and led this team to wins. Just brilliant.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I was NO fan of Rosen as a pick. But seriously? Josh Allen plays heroic with his legs, but the lack of talent around him,

    he isn't adapting to the pro game well. And he is still very inaccurate. Makes bad decisions.

       With more talent, going on his second year, I hope he grows and has a good career.

    I overrated him bigly.

    Mayfield - questioned his maturity, self-discipline - lack of snaps under center.

    Mayfield turns out to be the star of the draft, probable? Offensive rookie of the year...

    Dorsey is brilliant. I did really like Chubb over Sony, and Barkley.

    Just amazing how Mayfield adapted, and led this team to wins. Just brilliant.

    I've always said that the Browns turnaround wouldn't begin until they got a competent GM.

    Looks like Dorsey is the man.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    I was NO fan of Rosen as a pick. But seriously? Josh Allen plays heroic with his legs, but the lack of talent around him,

    he isn't adapting to the pro game well. And he is still very inaccurate. Makes bad decisions.

       With more talent, going on his second year, I hope he grows and has a good career.

    I overrated him bigly.

    Mayfield - questioned his maturity, self-discipline - lack of snaps under center.

    Mayfield turns out to be the star of the draft, probable? Offensive rookie of the year...

    Dorsey is brilliant. I did really like Chubb over Sony, and Barkley.

    Just amazing how Mayfield adapted, and led this team to wins. Just brilliant.

    I've always said that the Browns turnaround wouldn't begin until they got a competent GM.

    Looks like Dorsey is the man.

    @canton-dawg said:

    I've always said that the Browns turnaround wouldn't begin until they got a competent GM.

    Looks like Dorsey is the man.

    He duplicates 2019 with what he did in 2018, playoffs here we come.  🙂  The signs of the turnaround started immediately when the first thing he did was send Kenny Britt packing...  

  • @canton-dawg said:

    I've always said that the Browns turnaround wouldn't begin until they got a competent GM.

    Looks like Dorsey is the man.

    He duplicates 2019 with what he did in 2018, playoffs here we come.  🙂  The signs of the turnaround started immediately when the first thing he did was send Kenny Britt packing...  

    @hoorta said:

    He duplicates 2019 with what he did in 2018, playoffs here we come.  🙂  The signs of the turnaround started immediately when the first thing he did was send Kenny Britt packing...  

    Sometimes a GM has to make unpopular decisions, like trading Josh Gordon or Corey Coleman.

    Then there’s the decisions that make everyone happy...like getting rid of Kenny Britt.

    In hindsight, I can’t think of a trade Dorsey made in 2018 that will come back to haunt us.

  • @hoorta said:

    He duplicates 2019 with what he did in 2018, playoffs here we come.  🙂  The signs of the turnaround started immediately when the first thing he did was send Kenny Britt packing...  

    Sometimes a GM has to make unpopular decisions, like trading Josh Gordon or Corey Coleman.

    Then there’s the decisions that make everyone happy...like getting rid of Kenny Britt.

    In hindsight, I can’t think of a trade Dorsey made in 2018 that will come back to haunt us.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Sometimes a GM has to make unpopular decisions, like trading Josh Gordon or Corey Coleman.

    Then there’s the decisions that make everyone happy...like getting rid of Kenny Britt.

    In hindsight, I can’t think of a trade Dorsey made in 2018 that will come back to haunt us.

    I thought Corey Coleman was shit before we drafted him. However I thought we blew it with Gordon. The takeaway here is that Dorsey doesn't seem to need our bullshit to be successful. Our past GMs sucked twat balls off of bus seats.

  • Saw this on the other board- you may find it amusing- especially if you're a Lord of the Rings fan.  🙂  

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  • Frodo lives!

  • Is Colin coward related to Barnaby? (Lin Sheldon)

  • Good Video^^ #6 Baker Mayfield matches his jersey number in rotw, announced today as Rookie of the Week Vs.Bengals last week for 6th time this season..Congrats to Baker & Nick Chubb both being candidates..C.Cowherd will be accepting these awards at this point?        

  • GREAT VIDEO ! LOL

    No wonder the fans and teammates of Baker loved him so much.

    He's just a natural born leader, feisty, funny, and the TEAM is coming together.

  • Most impressive was near the end with all his OLs showing their respect for him. A player like that brings out the best in them and vice versa.?

  • I will officially take this opportunity to once again brag that I wanted Baker Mayfield since around January or February. Haha, just kidding. Nobody cares. 

    I tell ya what, the little guy sure is infectious, huh? Watching him throw the ball never gets old. He literally "whips it" and the ball comes out HOT. Remember the Jets game when Baker threw a missile to Landry and it pegged him in the chest because it got there faster than he was expecting? Lol. I'm a fan that doesn't place THAT much emphasis on arm strength, but it was very obvious early on with Baker that he had the power to drive the ball to the hashes, and it's one of his better throws. If you're in a defense susceptible to an out route, he'll hurt you. Also, Callaway, Higgins, and especially Landry have all proven adept at the sideline catch. Heck, even Perriman has made multiple, tough sideline receptions. 

    I've said it 1000 times, but Baker's attitude was one of the BIGGEST reasons I wanted him on our team. We needed a powerful force to catapult us out of the losing funk we were stuck in for years. A personality that literally would refuse to succumb to the Factory of Sadness B.S. And now we have him. Do yourself a favor and go back and watch the Jets game highlights. Down 14, national game, Baker comes in before half with 2 minutes to go. It'll give you goosebumps. 

  • Here is the full 12 minute mic up from baker during Bengals game. I think someone posted his reaction to the Landry pass and that's in here as well

  • @westside-steve said:

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25640606/baker-mayfield-cleveland-browns-fined

    Oh blow me.

    What a chickenshit fine.

    WSS

    About as bad as it gets. I bet there was a bunch of “media” influence. I’ve never even heard of the NFL fining a player this late for something involving his own coach. They couldn’t fine him for pue so they had to make up something