Rookie of the year
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Baker should get it due to the circumstances he had to deal with
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As much as I am a baker fan...saquon has really done a helluva job.
2000 rushing yards...3rd time for a rook in nfl
Caught more balls than obj his rookie season.
Baker may get it still as a more skill position
Its close
As much as I am a baker fan...saquon has really done a helluva job.
2000 rushing yards...3rd time for a rook in nfl
Caught more balls than obj his rookie season.
Baker may get it still as a more skill position
Its close
One correction. Saquon did NOT have 2,000 yards rushing, he had 2,000 COMBINED yards, rushing & receiving (see stats below). Impressive, but not nearly as impressive as Baker's numbers at the QB position. Our kid deserves Offensive Rookie of the Year.Mike
Player Att Comp Yds Comp % Yds/Att TD TD % INT INT % Long Sck Sack/Lost Rating Eli Manning 576 380 4299 66.0 7.5 21 3.6 11 1.9 58 47 358 92.4 Kyle Lauletta 5 0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0.0 1 20.0 -- 0 0 0.0 Odell Beckham 2 2 106 100.0 53.0 2 100.0 0 0.0 57 0 0 158.3 RUSHING STATISTICS Player Att Yds Yds/Att Long TD Saquon Barkley 261 1307 5.0 78 11 Wayne Gallman 51 176 3.5 9 1 Eli Manning 15 20 1.3 7 1 Elijhaa Penny 7 25 3.6 8 0 Jonathan Stewart 6 17 2.8 5 0 Odell Beckham 5 19 3.8 11 0 Evan Engram 3 36 12.0 14 0 Sterling Shepard 3 33 11.0 27 0 Riley Dixon 1 14 14.0 14 0 Corey Coleman 1 5 5.0 5 0 Kyle Lauletta 1 -2 -2.0 -2 0 RECEIVING STATISTICS Player Rec Yds Yds/Rec Long TD Saquon Barkley 91 721 7.9 57 4 Odell Beckham 77 1052 13.7 51 6 Sterling Shepard 66 872 13.2 58 4 Evan Engram 45 577 12.8 54 3 Rhett Ellison 25 272 10.9 29 1 Bennie Fowler 16 199 12.4 26 1 Wayne Gallman 14 89 6.4 21 0 Cody Latimer 11 190 17.3 39 1 Russell Shepard 10 188 18.8 49 2 Scott Simonson 9 86 9.6 24 1 Elijhaa Penny 8 50 6.3 16 0 Corey Coleman 5 71 14.2 30 0 Jawill Davis 4 40 10.0 22 0 Spencer Pulley 1 -2 -2.0 -2 -
Baker zero question. None. 27 TD's in fucking cleveland? And not playing in 3 games? If he doesnt get it, then its more NFL who cares about clev bullshit
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Doesn't Collin cowherd get a vote?
We
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Pretty clear Baker gets it just for putting up with the Clueless One at the start of the year.
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It’s a toss up IMO both are great at there respective positions
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BTW, here are Baker's stats.....
Mike
PASSING STATISTICS Player Att Comp Yds Comp % Yds/Att TD TD % INT INT % Long Sck Sack/Lost Rating Baker Mayfield 486 310 3725 63.8 7.7 27 5.6 14 2.9 71 25 173 93.7 Tyrod Taylor 85 42 473 49.4 5.6 2 2.4 2 2.4 47 13 81 64.5 Jarvis Landry 2 1 63 50.0 31.5 0 0.0 0 0.0 63 0 0 95.8 Dontrell Hilliard 1 0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0.0 1 100.0 -- 0 0 0.0 RUSHING STATISTICS Player Att Yds Yds/Att Long TD Nick Chubb 192 996 5.2 92 8 Duke Johnson 40 201 5.0 23 0 Baker Mayfield 39 131 3.4 35 0 Tyrod Taylor 16 125 7.8 24 1 Breshad Perriman 4 2 0.5 7 0 Jarvis Landry 3 60 20.0 51 1 Antonio Callaway 2 7 3.5 15 0 0
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Took Grandson to the airport a couple hours ago to fly him back to San Antonio & looked into the gift shop at Akron Canton Airport. Staring at me was THIS shirt......
I couldn't pass it by!
Mike
IN DORSEY I TRUST -
My view on Baker.
That fateful Thursday night....playing the Jets with Tyrod as our starter....I (like the rest of us) was watching with my typical Browns long-face. We looked awful. I said to Mrs. Wife, "We're not gonna win a game all season."
AND THEN, Tyrod got hurt......and EVERYTHING changed.
When Baker took the snap in victory formation I turned my tv up to 39 volume (quite loud). I wanted to be a part of that celebration.
From there, Baker Mayfield took an 0-16 football team to 7 wins and had us in the playoff hunt until the second last week of the season. (might have made playoffs if they'd have jettisoned Hue & Haley sooner)
So, if we're talking MVP.....well, what he did for an 0-16 football team seems to be the definition of most valuable player.
What the criteria for Rookie Of The Year is, I'm not sure. But as has been said, he has set an NFL rookie TD passes record. No other rookie QB has ever thrown for as many TD's as he did.
.....having said all that, Barkely's rookie season matches all of the hype surrounding him - Pre Draft. He had a phenomenal rookie season.
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Baker set the all time record for rookie TD passes, and he did that compared to having just 14 picks. Furthermore, he didn't even start the first 3 games, and he lost his head coach and offensive coordinator. And frankly, it might not be fair, but Baker did it in CLEVELAND. A place where QBs go to die. A place where nobody has succeeded. A place that evokes laughter and snickers across the world for so many painful reasons.
This is not to take anything away from Saquon, as his season was spectacular and he's also known to be a high character individual worthy of winning accolades and prestige. He's going to be exceptional for a LONG TIME. But you know what? He's still not a QB. Might not be fair, but that's how it is in the NFL. Additionally, think of the players that Baker elevated this year. Look at Breshad Perriman for example. A player cut by 2 different teams in the same year. How about Callaway having a solid rookie season, and Rashard Higgins continuing to improve? Njoku increasing his stats and so on. Baker made so many players better, and while that's a function of his position, it's still incredibly fun to see.
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Great season by Barkley, but Baker is the clear choice. Best rookie season by a QB ever.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Great season by Barkley, but Baker is the clear choice. Best rookie season by a QB ever.
Zombo
Well Z- turns out there's LOTS of different ROTY awards. Baker is almost certainly a lock for the Pepsi one considering it's based on fan voting, and he won ROTW way more than anyone else. He should get several- but if you peruse the lists, running backs have taken the honor a fair share of times...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Rookie_of_the_Year_Award
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Took Grandson to the airport a couple hours ago to fly him back to San Antonio & looked into the gift shop at Akron Canton Airport. Staring at me was THIS shirt......
I couldn't pass it by!
Mike
Took Grandson to the airport a couple hours ago to fly him back to San Antonio & looked into the gift shop at Akron Canton Airport. Staring at me was THIS shirt......
I couldn't pass it by!
Mike
Mike try copying it again... No comprendo.
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Baker set the all time record for rookie TD passes, and he did that compared to having just 14 picks. Furthermore, he didn't even start the first 3 games, and he lost his head coach and offensive coordinator. And frankly, it might not be fair, but Baker did it in CLEVELAND. A place where QBs go to die. A place where nobody has succeeded. A place that evokes laughter and snickers across the world for so many painful reasons.
This is not to take anything away from Saquon, as his season was spectacular and he's also known to be a high character individual worthy of winning accolades and prestige. He's going to be exceptional for a LONG TIME. But you know what? He's still not a QB. Might not be fair, but that's how it is in the NFL. Additionally, think of the players that Baker elevated this year. Look at Breshad Perriman for example. A player cut by 2 different teams in the same year. How about Callaway having a solid rookie season, and Rashard Higgins continuing to improve? Njoku increasing his stats and so on. Baker made so many players better, and while that's a function of his position, it's still incredibly fun to see.
Baker set the all time record for rookie TD passes, and he did that compared to having just 14 picks. Furthermore, he didn't even start the first 3 games, and he lost his head coach and offensive coordinator. And frankly, it might not be fair, but Baker did it in CLEVELAND. A place where QBs go to die. A place where nobody has succeeded. A place that evokes laughter and snickers across the world for so many painful reasons.
Fuck you, Tallahassee. Aside from this team having been so bad...what else is it that you think there is to evoke laughter and snickers about Cleveland for? I have been to Tallahassee....and I saw nothing there that gives it an edge over Cleveland.
This is not to take anything away from Saquon, as his season was spectacular and he's also known to be a high character individual worthy of winning accolades and prestige. He's going to be exceptional for a LONG TIME. But you know what? He's still not a QB. Might not be fair, but that's how it is in the NFL. Additionally, think of the players that Baker elevated this year. Look at Breshad Perriman for example. A player cut by 2 different teams in the same year. How about Callaway having a solid rookie season, and Rashard Higgins continuing to improve? Njoku increasing his stats and so on. Baker made so many players better, and while that's a function of his position, it's still incredibly fun to see.
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Zombo said:
Great season by Barkley, but Baker is the clear choice. Best rookie season by a QB ever.
Zombo
Well Z- turns out there's LOTS of different ROTY awards. Baker is almost certainly a lock for the Pepsi one considering it's based on fan voting, and he won ROTW way more than anyone else. He should get several- but if you peruse the lists, running backs have taken the honor a fair share of times...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Rookie_of_the_Year_Award
Well Z- turns out there's LOTS of different ROTY awards. Baker is almost certainly a lock for the Pepsi one considering it's based on fan voting, and he won ROTW way more than anyone else. He should get several- but if you peruse the lists, running backs have taken the honor a fair share of times...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Rookie_of_the_Year_Award
It is always easier for rookie RBs than rookie QBs. Their position is so much simpler, and with that ease, a talented one can come in and perform at a high...be it more instinctual level than a QB usually can right away.
It is far, far, far harder for a QB to excel as a rookie than it is for a RB
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