BEATING PITTSPILE

[Riffer X]

@big-anders said:

It would seem to me that to actually beat the Steelers we would have to actually have players who can score and make plays.

Someone said we never used Winslow right? Please, Tight Ends, save guys like Ozzie and Gonzolez don't make a huge difference. We haven't had any real offensive weapons in many years. We don't have any punishing running backs and we sure as hell don't have WRs that keep a defense honest.

I don't see Quinn lighting anyone up, let a lone the Steelers, and we waste yet another draft on a center? A Center? Isn't that 7 centers in 6 years?

We aren't going to beat Pittsburgh in 2009, we simply don't have any weapons.

4 -12 is probably about what we are looking at and at best 2 - 4 in the division.

Fook it Soldier, let's just forfeit those games.

[ndneighbor]

@big-anders said:

It would seem to me that to actually beat the Steelers we would have to actually have players who can score and make plays.

Someone said we never used Winslow right? Please, Tight Ends, save guys like Ozzie and Gonzolez don't make a huge difference. We haven't had any real offensive weapons in many years. We don't have any punishing running backs and we sure as hell don't have WRs that keep a defense honest.

I don't see Quinn lighting anyone up, let a lone the Steelers, and we waste yet another draft on a center? A Center? Isn't that 7 centers in 6 years?

We aren't going to beat Pittsburgh in 2009, we simply don't have any weapons.

4 -12 is probably about what we are looking at and at best 2 - 4 in the division.

I notice you've written in present tense. The roster has changed significantly since the end of the '08 season.

Have you looked at it lately? Shouldn't you be suggesting that the '09 roster isn't proven as yet? Did you even notice who else was drafted?

Even the bookmakers are giving the Browns credit for 6 wins in '09 and they've been known to be too pessimistic at times.

EDIT: Anders, if you'd like to get caught up, give this a look: http://www.usaplayers.com/sports/nfl/2009-...and-browns.html

[Flugel]

@daddybull1 said:

That super bowl in Detroit still has me saying hmmmmmmmm...

One play in particular still puzzles me to this day...

The Seattle QB throws a pick them makes the tackle on the defender but gets called for tackling below the waist????? What the fook.... How is that possible, you bring down the ball carrier anyway you can...

Regardless of the teams involved, that game got me wondering if there is some crap going on in the league regarding the officiating... I believe shortly there after, the NBA uncovered cheating by their officials... The officiating in that super bowl game was the most biased I've ever witnessed...

peace

T.Dawg

The play before that Seattle got an apparent first and goal to goal at the 1 yard line of Pitt nullified was shadey as Hell. The replay showed the Pitt DE lining up opposite the Right OT was way offsides only to hear the OT had a phantom holding call on him. Here's the #1 rated Oline getting flagged for holding when they were the least penalized offensive unit all year. The next play was the INT where the QB throwing the INT got flagged for unnecessary roughness. Hard to find a shadier Superbowl than that.

- Tom F.

[Aloysius]

James Walker makes a good point about the Steelers' LB depth:

Ranchboss from Butler, Pa. is concerned about Pittsburgh's depth at linebacker and asks, "Who do you see as the top backups, and do you think they may pick up a veteran some time before training camp?"

James Walker: I'll start with the last part of the question, Ranchboss. Don't expect the Steelers to make any free-agent pickups before training camp because of the lack of cap room. As far as backups, Bruce Davis and Keyaron Fox are two candidates who could potentially fill in. Davis was very good at rushing the passer in college but hasn't displayed much in the pros to date. Fox is more of a stopgap veteran who may be able to fill in for a couple games if someone gets injured, but he isn't a long-term solution. The starters are tremendous, but it's not a very deep group.

[Spunkonmyback DPOY]

@flugel said:

The play before that Seattle got an apparent first and goal to goal at the 1 yard line of Pitt nullified was shadey as Hell. The replay showed the Pitt DE lining up opposite the Right OT was way offsides only to hear the OT had a phantom holding call on him. Here's the #1 rated Oline getting flagged for holding when they were the least penalized offensive unit all year. The next play was the INT where the QB throwing the INT got flagged for unnecessary roughness. Hard to find a shadier Superbowl than that.

- Tom F.

When Seattle's Jeremy Stevenson caught the ball, turned around, ran three full steps with full control of the ball, got tackled and dropped the ball both you and I would call it a fumble. The ref called it an incomplete pass. That's also very shady.

[Flugel]

Sivlerback DPOY said:

When Seattle's Jeremy Stevenson caught the ball, turned around, ran three full steps with full control of the ball, got tackled and dropped the ball both you and I would call it a fumble. The ref called it an incomplete pass. That's also very shady.

Don't speak for me. That Superbowl was a farce and everyone with more than 1 braincell in their head knows it.

- Tom F.

[LNC]

@dtbh said:

http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/20...rry-bradsh.html

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_328813.html

http://www.pronewsblog.com/sports/james-ha...aron-francisco/

Nevermind the links... if you can look at James Harrison, the guy who could never make a freakin' NFL squad before becoming King Kong with the Steelers, and NOT think he's on steroids 24/7, God Bless you. Willie "all of a sudden 28-inch python arms even though I was a stick-figure just a few years ago" Parker is just as suspect of it. HGH isn't findable, so there won't be proof until they make a test that can trace it.

I'll never get the "everybody was on steroids argument," I thought we were all taught in pre-school that two wrongs don't make a right. Then again, not sure Pittsburgh has that level of advanced education.

Great job comparing the Turkey Jones sack, a play on the BALL-CARRIER, vs. the James Harrison roid-rage incident, a bully classless shot on a downed player no where near the ball-carrier.

Then why bring it up?

Pot, meet kettle:

http://books.google.com/books?id=I7-D2jH-O...t&resnum=10

http://www.harlemlive.org/community/health...e/steroids.html

http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2007/08/c...kle_ryan_t.html

http://www.nflgridirongab.com/2007/08/29/q...-steroid-usage/

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/200906...m_than_MLB.html

[Kosar_For_President]

@lnc said:

Then why bring it up?

Pot, meet kettle:

http://books.google.com/books?id=I7-D2jH-O...t&resnum=10

http://www.harlemlive.org/community/health...e/steroids.html

http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2007/08/c...kle_ryan_t.html

http://www.nflgridirongab.com/2007/08/29/q...-steroid-usage/

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/200906...m_than_MLB.html

Are these the same Browns who won those championships in the 60's? Just a question.

[medicineman]

Fuk pittsburgh. Fuk Big Gay Ben. Fuk em all. And hell well Im at it Fuk cintucky Fuk the rat tirds too.

[Gafreleets]

@riffer-x said:

Seriously, what will it take to get Pittpukers off the roids? They've been on them for about 40 years with no end in sight. Looking at Roid Monkey Harrison gives me the creeps, that dude ain't right. I mean, there's doing some juice to be in optimal condition and then there is inhaling the roids like an underfed gorilla. What an embarrassment Roid Monk is to the Akron area.

I'm still waiting for the Yinzers to have an important game where the majority of the calls don't go their way. Lerner has the money, get those refs straight. Problem is, he doesn't have the gambling ties.

come on man, you've got to be kidding me.

there are no Steeler conspiracies there is no bribing of refs and there are no steroid users in the Steelers organization.

the NFL tests EVERY player randomly and would never put itself in a position to do any detriment to it's name to help any one particular organization win or get away with cheating.

superbowl IV was simply put......a poorly reffed game. on BOTH sides. yes, i do believe that we got a couple of calls that were questionable, but i in no way do i think it was some kind of conspiracy to elevate the steelers organization. get over it, i think only you and Holmgren are the only two that haven't.

and roids in the 70's? who cares if it is true? they were legal! i can't fault a guy for doing something that there is no rule against. not on my team or any others.

you sound very bitter.........and believe me, i can understand why.

let me guess, the NFL cheated and made sure the Pats won the superbowl in 01' cause that was the year of 9/11 and they wanted the "patriots" winning to be a symbol???

i got a bridge for sale too buddy..............prime prices!

[Riffer X]

there are no steroid users in the Steelers organization.

the NFL tests EVERY player randomly and would never put itself in a position to do any detriment to it's name to help any one particular organization win or get away with cheating.

LMMFAO, Thanks buddy Ro, that made my day.

Will the next Yinzer genius please step up to the plate?

[Spunkonmyback DPOY]

@riffer-x said:

LMMFAO, Thanks buddy Ro, that made my day.

Will the next Yinzer genius please step up to the plate?

If the league is fixed so the Browns never win and the Steelers always win, then why would you be an NFL fan?

[Riffer X]

Sivlerback DPOY said:

If the league is fixed so the Browns never win and the Steelers always win, then why would you be an NFL fan?

I like seeing stupid people justifying a stupid football team. The fact you have fans like the above genius that think the Pittsburgh Steelers have nobody that currently uses steroids is enough to keep me coming back.

Carry on Einstein's and thanks again, you guys?? are swell.

[Spunkonmyback DPOY]

@riffer-x said:

I like seeing stupid people justifying a stupid football team. The fact you have fans like the above genius that think the Pittsburgh Steelers have nobody that currently uses steroids is enough to keep me coming back.

Carry on Einstein's and thanks again, you guys?? are swell.

HaHa! You call us stupid in the same post you are unable to answer a simple question. Pot, meet kettle.

[Riffer X]

Sivlerback DPOY said:

HaHa! You call us stupid in the same post you are unable to answer a simple question. Pot, meet kettle.

Question was answered but in true hillbilly fashion you dumb dumb to grasp it.

Wonder what Roid Monk Harrison will do after football?

Maybe he could be a carnival act or fight Mike Tyson.

[medicineman]

Wow Riffer It looks like he got your number. lmao what a douche.

[Spunkonmyback DPOY]

@riffer-x said:

Question was answered but in true hillbilly fashion you dumb dumb to grasp it.

Wonder what Roid Monk Harrison will do after football?

Maybe he could be a carnival act or fight Mike Tyson.

Unlike your Browns, not a single current Steeler has tested positive or admitted to steroid use. Not to mention we get tested even more then you guys becuase our season is much longer. And all probowlers get tested before they can play. Accusing us of using roids when its your team with guilty roid users on your roster. Pot, meet kettle.

[Riffer X]

Hey Sliverdick, here's why you and Pukey fans so special..............

Here is your sig.

I have a philosphy. I will help the helpless, and just ingore the clueless....Wait, then why am I on this board?.....

Classic stuff man, classic LOL.

[Spunkonmyback DPOY]

@riffer-x said:

Hey Sliverdick, here's why you and Pukey fans so special..............

Here is your sig.

I have a philosphy. I will help the helpless, and just ingore the clueless....Wait, then why am I on this board?.....

Classic stuff man, classic LOL.

Thanks for pointing out my typo. Atleast, this means I know you have read it. I'll get right to fixing that.

[Pumpkin Eater]

Slivercock it's kind of hard to test positive for something that is untraceable at this point.

When will the Squeelfags ever win a championship without cheating?