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  • There is no chance were going to land him but he is still a top 5 WR. If they cut him or are taking a late round pick I would be all over that.

    @louisville-slugger said:

    There is no chance were going to land him but he is still a top 5 WR. If they cut him or are taking a late round pick I would be all over that.

    Top 5 WR, and top 5 jackass. Former teammate pegged it. As soon as he got paid, attitude turned to shit. Who shows up for training camp in a helicopter?  

    & yup- the way the Steelers structured his contract- there's a $21 million (and any team that might trade for him) cap hit they have to deal with in 2019. Sorry he's not worth it- regardless of how good you think he is... 

  • @louisville-slugger said:

    There is no chance were going to land him but he is still a top 5 WR. If they cut him or are taking a late round pick I would be all over that.

    Top 5 WR, and top 5 jackass. Former teammate pegged it. As soon as he got paid, attitude turned to shit. Who shows up for training camp in a helicopter?  

    & yup- the way the Steelers structured his contract- there's a $21 million (and any team that might trade for him) cap hit they have to deal with in 2019. Sorry he's not worth it- regardless of how good you think he is... 

    @hoorta said:

    Top 5 WR, and top 5 jackass. Former teammate pegged it. As soon as he got paid, attitude turned to shit. Who shows up for training camp in a helicopter?  

    & yup- the way the Steelers structured his contract- there's a $21 million (and any team that might trade for him) cap hit they have to deal with in 2019. Sorry he's not worth it- regardless of how good you think he is... 

    Not worth a number one for sure so that probably makes the entire question moot.

    WSS

  • Why does he want to be traded?  

    @orion said:

    Why does he want to be traded?  

    He’s a pussy

  • I dont know the situation in Pittsburgh, but I haven't heard of Brown being a bad teammate. Hes been around for the better part of a decade and hes made big bucks before this year, so it has to be the environment. I think Tomlin may be the problem honestly

  • Look up Ryan Clark's opinion on this ... Brown has always been a me first guy, he'd rather have big stats and lose than not be involved in a win.

  • AB is the exact opposite of Baker.  Baker is about the team and winning.  AB is about his numbers and himself.

    Nope

  • @darren15 said:

    Would you make an offer ?

    Value 1 and a 3 ?

    No and hell no. His contract is stupid expensive. And as others have said, his attitude sucks. 30 years old too, we're building with a young team.

    I'll research it, but Fox Sports said the Steelers would have to eat a ton of dead money if they trade him.

    @hoorta said:

    No and hell no. His contract is stupid expensive. And as others have said, his attitude sucks. 30 years old too, we're building with a young team.

    I'll research it, but Fox Sports said the Steelers would have to eat a ton of dead money if they trade him.

    If they trade him before Jun 21, they eat the money.

    So basically they can't trade him for a draft pick for this year.  It would have to be 2020.

    There will be no trade.  He didn't "demand" a trade he "requested" a trade.  Everyone will go away for a while and it will be business as usual next year.  

  • @louisville-slugger said:

    There is no chance were going to land him but he is still a top 5 WR. If they cut him or are taking a late round pick I would be all over that.

    Top 5 WR, and top 5 jackass. Former teammate pegged it. As soon as he got paid, attitude turned to shit. Who shows up for training camp in a helicopter?  

    & yup- the way the Steelers structured his contract- there's a $21 million (and any team that might trade for him) cap hit they have to deal with in 2019. Sorry he's not worth it- regardless of how good you think he is... 

    @hoorta said:

    Top 5 WR, and top 5 jackass. Former teammate pegged it. As soon as he got paid, attitude turned to shit. Who shows up for training camp in a helicopter?  

    & yup- the way the Steelers structured his contract- there's a $21 million (and any team that might trade for him) cap hit they have to deal with in 2019. Sorry he's not worth it- regardless of how good you think he is... 

    As far as I am concerned he can stay right there...sowing dissension in that locker room,  creating resentments, acting the ass, having his teammates hate him....leading to poor on field performances by that entire team.

  • @hoorta said:

    No and hell no. His contract is stupid expensive. And as others have said, his attitude sucks. 30 years old too, we're building with a young team.

    I'll research it, but Fox Sports said the Steelers would have to eat a ton of dead money if they trade him.

    If they trade him before Jun 21, they eat the money.

    So basically they can't trade him for a draft pick for this year.  It would have to be 2020.

    There will be no trade.  He didn't "demand" a trade he "requested" a trade.  Everyone will go away for a while and it will be business as usual next year.  

    @crstphr2 said:

    If they trade him before Jun 21, they eat the money.

    So basically they can't trade him for a draft pick for this year.  It would have to be 2020.

    There will be no trade.  He didn't "demand" a trade he "requested" a trade.  Everyone will go away for a while and it will be business as usual next year.  

    He could sit out...like Bell.  Difference is that Bell sat out thinking that it would help him financially down the road.  I cannot see where Brown could be under the delusion that he can do better financially elsewhere.

  • @hoorta said:

    No and hell no. His contract is stupid expensive. And as others have said, his attitude sucks. 30 years old too, we're building with a young team.

    I'll research it, but Fox Sports said the Steelers would have to eat a ton of dead money if they trade him.

    If they trade him before Jun 21, they eat the money.

    So basically they can't trade him for a draft pick for this year.  It would have to be 2020.

    There will be no trade.  He didn't "demand" a trade he "requested" a trade.  Everyone will go away for a while and it will be business as usual next year.  

    @crstphr2 said:

    If they trade him before Jun 21, they eat the money.

    So basically they can't trade him for a draft pick for this year.  It would have to be 2020.

    There will be no trade.  He didn't "demand" a trade he "requested" a trade.  Everyone will go away for a while and it will be business as usual next year.  

    not exactly true....

    if traded before june, $21m million accelerates to the cap this year.  post june 7th, $7m this year and $14m next.  considering they're getting back Bell's $14m, they can do some creative accounting (which is actually why Browns cap hit is so high) and mitigate the money issue.  question is, will any team be desperate enough to throw high picks at a 31 yo dvia...

  • @crstphr2 said:

    If they trade him before Jun 21, they eat the money.

    So basically they can't trade him for a draft pick for this year.  It would have to be 2020.

    There will be no trade.  He didn't "demand" a trade he "requested" a trade.  Everyone will go away for a while and it will be business as usual next year.  

    not exactly true....

    if traded before june, $21m million accelerates to the cap this year.  post june 7th, $7m this year and $14m next.  considering they're getting back Bell's $14m, they can do some creative accounting (which is actually why Browns cap hit is so high) and mitigate the money issue.  question is, will any team be desperate enough to throw high picks at a 31 yo dvia...

    @choco said:

    not exactly true....

    if traded before june, $21m million accelerates to the cap this year.  post june 7th, $7m this year and $14m next.  considering they're getting back Bell's $14m, they can do some creative accounting (which is actually why Browns cap hit is so high) and mitigate the money issue.  question is, will any team be desperate enough to throw high picks at a 31 yo dvia...

    A.  I think that the Steelers would be smoking something if they think any team would give a #1 pick for this guy.

    B. I think Brown would be smoking something if he thought that any team would give up something that high (but then I guess that would not be his problem)

    C. What would happen with their cap space issue if they just cut him? Would it make any difference on your scenario?

  • Regarding C, the dead money is already paid, so cutting him accelerates $21m to the cap as well.

  • @crstphr2 said:

    If they trade him before Jun 21, they eat the money.

    So basically they can't trade him for a draft pick for this year.  It would have to be 2020.

    There will be no trade.  He didn't "demand" a trade he "requested" a trade.  Everyone will go away for a while and it will be business as usual next year.  

    He could sit out...like Bell.  Difference is that Bell sat out thinking that it would help him financially down the road.  I cannot see where Brown could be under the delusion that he can do better financially elsewhere.

    @the-gipper said:

    He could sit out...like Bell.  Difference is that Bell sat out thinking that it would help him financially down the road.  I cannot see where Brown could be under the delusion that he can do better financially elsewhere.

    The difference is Bell's contract was up, and the Steelers tagged him as a franchise player. Brown is effectively under contract for 2019 & 2020. He could sit out and not get paid, but Antonio is all about the money, apparently.

    There's damn few teams with the need and cap room that would want him and his contract.

  • @the-gipper said:

    He could sit out...like Bell.  Difference is that Bell sat out thinking that it would help him financially down the road.  I cannot see where Brown could be under the delusion that he can do better financially elsewhere.

    The difference is Bell's contract was up, and the Steelers tagged him as a franchise player. Brown is effectively under contract for 2019 & 2020. He could sit out and not get paid, but Antonio is all about the money, apparently.

    There's damn few teams with the need and cap room that would want him and his contract.

    @hoorta said:

    The difference is Bell's contract was up, and the Steelers tagged him as a franchise player. Brown is effectively under contract for 2019 & 2020. He could sit out and not get paid, but Antonio is all about the money, apparently.

    There's damn few teams with the need and cap room that would want him and his contract.

    OK....are you saying few teams have the need for him?  I suspect all teams would like to have his production (past)......

    But in reality, you are saying that it is really 3 things that a team needs to take him off the Steeler's hands:

    A. The need  (fairly universal likely)

    B. The cap space  (limited)

    C. The willingness to put up his selfishness in return for his potential production.  (God knows what teams that may be)

  • and D) sufficient draft picks as compensation

  • and D) sufficient draft picks as compensation

    @choco said:

    and D) sufficient draft picks as compensation

    You have to wonder after what Dallas did getting Amari Cooper,  if a team that thinks they can make the playoffs with Brown would take the plunge. But I haven't heard that Amari is a Head Case. 

  • According to Mike Tomlin today Brown did NOT request a trade.   That does not mean they should not do so anyway.

  • According to Mike Tomlin today Brown did NOT request a trade.   That does not mean they should not do so anyway.

    @the-gipper said:

    According to Mike Tomlin today Brown did NOT request a trade.   That does not mean they should not do so anyway.

    And I did hear the sound byte Tomlin isn't very happy with Antonio either. Sounds like some disciplinary action down the road. According to Cow-pie, it all started with Brown throwing a football at Ben- hitting him with it, and not in a very nice way.

  • @choco said:

    and D) sufficient draft picks as compensation

    You have to wonder after what Dallas did getting Amari Cooper,  if a team that thinks they can make the playoffs with Brown would take the plunge. But I haven't heard that Amari is a Head Case. 

    @hoorta said:

    You have to wonder after what Dallas did getting Amari Cooper,  if a team that thinks they can make the playoffs with Brown would take the plunge. But I haven't heard that Amari is a Head Case. 

    There was talk that Amari doesn't really love football... ?

  • I read that Schuster getting steeler poty bothered him, if that's true...why would any of us want this in the Browns lockeroom?