ANYBODY WATCH UFC 100?
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MMA rocks.
They have to find a way for all the fighters in all the leagues to face each other.
Unify the titles.
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MMA rocks.
They have to find a way for all the fighters in all the leagues to face each other.
Unify the titles.
MMA rocks.
They have to find a way for all the fighters in all the leagues to face each other.
Unify the titles.
There's not that many leagues anymore. It's pretty much the UFC a the top.
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MMA rocks.
They have to find a way for all the fighters in all the leagues to face each other.
Unify the titles.
There's not that many leagues anymore. It's pretty much the UFC a the top.
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AdaM said:
UFC IS the league. The others like pride are just.... aaa baseball basically.Pride was bought out by UFC and PRIDE fighters the UFC actually wanted, like Dan Henderson, are now part of UFC. WEC is also owned by UFC. Affliction and Strikeforce are about the bigges competition for the UFC and they don't even begin to compair...with the exception of Fedor!
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I'm a pretty big UFC fan, maybe not diehard but I appreciate it and it has overtaken boxing for me, with the exception of Kelly Pavlik.
Brock Lesnar is too damn big. I may add, he looks pretty juiced too. I thought Mir stood a chance because he's such a well rounded fighter, but the size diff was huge.
Glad to see St. Pierre is still plugging away, his ground game is tremendous right now.
Bisping has proven to be a guy who isn't as good as advertised. He won some controversial decisions he probably didn't deserve and then got wacked by old man Henderson.
Bonnar is done in the UFC, another old man in Coleman took that one too.
Somehow, someway, they gotta make a Fedor--Lesnar fight happen.
Brock Lesnar is too damn big. I may add, he looks pretty juiced too. I thought Mir stood a chance because he's such a well rounded fighter, but the size diff was huge.
lesner is an absolutely horrible fighter. he barely has any skill at all. his game is just to use his brute strength and beat the hell out of the guy. if he ever meets a guy around his weight that can actually fight he will get his ass kicked.
he definitely used steroids at one time although i don't think he is now. you would have to be an idiot to do roids in any sport this day in age. the fact is, without his chemically induced size, he is nothing.
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Brock Lesnar is too damn big. I may add, he looks pretty juiced too. I thought Mir stood a chance because he's such a well rounded fighter, but the size diff was huge.
lesner is an absolutely horrible fighter. he barely has any skill at all. his game is just to use his brute strength and beat the hell out of the guy. if he ever meets a guy around his weight that can actually fight he will get his ass kicked.
he definitely used steroids at one time although i don't think he is now. you would have to be an idiot to do roids in any sport this day in age. the fact is, without his chemically induced size, he is nothing.
lesner is an absolutely horrible fighter. he barely has any skill at all. his game is just to use his brute strength and beat the hell out of the guy. if he ever meets a guy around his weight that can actually fight he will get his ass kicked.
he definitely used steroids at one time although i don't think he is now. you would have to be an idiot to do roids in any sport this day in age. the fact is, without his chemically induced size, he is nothing.
He's not and never has been on roids. The NCAA tests, UFC tests, he's been that big since like 11th grade.
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Lesnar fought a too old Randy Coutour and Over rated Frank Mir... Mir is not an elite heavy wieght. I will be more impressed when he fights some heavy weights that are experienced and in their prime.
Fedor is a KO artist but Josh Barnett is a SERIOUS challenge in size/experience/skill set. Arlovoski looked really good against a slow Fedor and I think really Fedor was lucky he caught Arlovski jumping in when Fedor was dazed.
there are some very good heavy weights out there that will pose a serious threat like Overreem,Carwin,Barnett,Arlovski,Gonzaga etc.
I will believe the Hype once he fights another fighter more in his prime and similar size.
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Lesnar fought a too old Randy Coutour and Over rated Frank Mir... Mir is not an elite heavy wieght. I will be more impressed when he fights some heavy weights that are experienced and in their prime.
Fedor is a KO artist but Josh Barnett is a SERIOUS challenge in size/experience/skill set. Arlovoski looked really good against a slow Fedor and I think really Fedor was lucky he caught Arlovski jumping in when Fedor was dazed.
there are some very good heavy weights out there that will pose a serious threat like Overreem,Carwin,Barnett,Arlovski,Gonzaga etc.
I will believe the Hype once he fights another fighter more in his prime and similar size.
Lesnar fought a too old Randy Coutour and Over rated Frank Mir... Mir is not an elite heavy wieght. I will be more impressed when he fights some heavy weights that are experienced and in their prime.
Fedor is a KO artist but Josh Barnett is a SERIOUS challenge in size/experience/skill set. Arlovoski looked really good against a slow Fedor and I think really Fedor was lucky he caught Arlovski jumping in when Fedor was dazed.
there are some very good heavy weights out there that will pose a serious threat like Overreem,Carwin,Barnett,Arlovski,Gonzaga etc.
I will believe the Hype once he fights another fighter more in his prime and similar size.
Frank Mir is a very elite heavy. Probably the best Ju ju guys and has been very formidable with stand up.
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The UFC was looking for a big name with Lesnar, it may backfire on them though.
Someone with size and good ground skills will take Lesnar down. It depends who the UFC 'lets' him fight.
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Riffer I agree that Mir is an elite Heavy weight jiu jitsu specialist, however I dont think IMHO that he is an overall elite heavy weight. Not anymore, the game has changed and his striking/wrestling skills are not up to par with the Likes of Barnett and company.
I see the UFC now as a crooked boxing organization, I love them yet I hate them. The comment about Bout matching is on the money, for all intensive purposes the Fertitta's and White can Create champions and are doing so.
GSP was caught cheating..... yet NOTHING happened. I think GSP is god awful talented and really does not have any weaknesses but a litmus test of the validity of the organization was failed. They just are not Headlining him until time makes fans forget and not care, that is why he was a undercard in the Brock Lesnar show.
I am pulling for Josh Barnett a former UFC champion to beat Fedor because I still think Fedor was Lucky against, Hong Man Choy and Arlovski. IF Fedor is beat that will create a definate Paradox with another promotion/league which is good for fighters. Alistair Overreem is another scary talented heavy weight locked up in another division.
I am not really on the side of the UFC here more on the side that gives Fighters options so the UFC has to pay them better and compete for talent. Fighters will be treated like Cattle unless other organizations are around to keep each other honest.
Look at Brock lesnar..... Shane Carwin is a giant at 6-3 265 pounds and he is 11-0...... Brock had less than 3 fights one a loss and he got to fight for the championship? Its marketing BS from his WWE career pulling over their fans. There are fighters who it takes YEARS of fights just to get into a qaulifying fight let alone a shot at the title.
This is not denigrating the mountain that is Lesnar, I just think couture and Mir were tailored made openents for him to win. Heath Herring has never been an elite Heavy weight just a middle talent, Brock is a Created Champion not a true fighter who earned it.
Had he gone thru Carwin/Gonzaga/Slyvia/Arlovski any two of them or a myriad of other Heavy weights I could believe the hype but mysteriously he was never matched with them. He may be the next great thing but IMHO he has yet to earn the marketing hype. Dana White is pulling a Don King promoting another Scary Monster and insuring good matchups until Brock has enough experience to be a true champion.
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Good post Sev and I agree with a lot of it. I think anytime there are only a few big fights every month or so it's going to create issues with people being upset with said pairings. It's the nature of the beast.
This may sound goofy, but I think Lesnar gets a pass because of his big time wrestling experience. Don't forget that not only was he a pro wrestler with a known name, he was an NCAA Champ just like Buckeye Kevin Randleman and one other guy I forget who also held a heavy belt at one time......I think it was Coleman.....
Dana is not stupid, and right now he is creating a marketing monster with Lesnar. I almost guarantee that Lesnar is a nice guy but is putting on a show. It may be a little experiment, who knows.
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It was mark coleman that also wrestled at OSU. I agree with sev about the ufc giving brock good match ups for his style and skillset at the moment. I think he would have some trouble if they put him with a good striker/kickboxer who can peppper him up a little bit from the outside. I think that now is the time to beat lesnar. After he gets some more fighting experience and steps up his stand up game he is gonna be a monster.
Great post sev. I agree 100% about everything you pointed out about the ufc's organization especially the way the treat the fighters. Frank Mir has been around the ufc for a long time and for headlining ufc 100 he got payed either 40k or 45k i don't remember exactly. Lesnar made 400k. There really needs to be some competing organizations.
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Brock Lesnar is too damn big. I may add, he looks pretty juiced too. I thought Mir stood a chance because he's such a well rounded fighter, but the size diff was huge.
lesner is an absolutely horrible fighter. he barely has any skill at all. his game is just to use his brute strength and beat the hell out of the guy. if he ever meets a guy around his weight that can actually fight he will get his ass kicked.
he definitely used steroids at one time although i don't think he is now. you would have to be an idiot to do roids in any sport this day in age. the fact is, without his chemically induced size, he is nothing.
lesner is an absolutely horrible fighter. he barely has any skill at all. his game is just to use his brute strength and beat the hell out of the guy. if he ever meets a guy around his weight that can actually fight he will get his ass kicked.
he definitely used steroids at one time although i don't think he is now. you would have to be an idiot to do roids in any sport this day in age. the fact is, without his chemically induced size, he is nothing.
You don't know what you are talking about. His wrestling is, bar none, one of the best in the world no matter MMA, Wrestling, what have you. Did you see how he used his wrestling to keep Mir from doing anything from the bottom?
Strong guys can do well, but they are average at best unless they have some skill behind that strength.
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lesner is an absolutely horrible fighter. he barely has any skill at all. his game is just to use his brute strength and beat the hell out of the guy. if he ever meets a guy around his weight that can actually fight he will get his ass kicked.
he definitely used steroids at one time although i don't think he is now. you would have to be an idiot to do roids in any sport this day in age. the fact is, without his chemically induced size, he is nothing.
You don't know what you are talking about. His wrestling is, bar none, one of the best in the world no matter MMA, Wrestling, what have you. Did you see how he used his wrestling to keep Mir from doing anything from the bottom?
Strong guys can do well, but they are average at best unless they have some skill behind that strength.
You don't know what you are talking about. His wrestling is, bar none, one of the best in the world no matter MMA, Wrestling, what have you. Did you see how he used his wrestling to keep Mir from doing anything from the bottom?
Strong guys can do well, but they are average at best unless they have some skill behind that strength.
Actually he does know what he's talking about Thaak cuz it's MMA, not NCAA wrestling. Huge men laying atop much smaller men w/ a rape choke in place (and one w/ thumb on Adam's apple is undoubtedly as cheap as they come), pinning down far-side arms while trapping their head in your arm pit, and oafishly bashing them in the skull--while effective in this case--is far from what I consider "skillful".
Like his huge hammerfists, his cheap shotting to the neck/throat/nose/eyes/ears and back of head may make you look bad, maybe even like hamburger, but it's not skillful by any stretch of the imagination. His bull-charging tactics are for straight amateurs and he's lucky he's huge--he cuts weight to make 265 btw--cuz when he inevitably faces someone equally humongous w/ legit strikes or jitz he's curtains.
sev the UFC didn't specifically arrange those matchups for Lesnar, Couture and Mir were the current belt holders, but I do agree they were good opponents for Lesnar. It was just coincidence though and he still beat both belt holders so you can't ignore the results. Also to comment on what you also wrote Lesnar would absolutely annihilate Tim "Stilts" Sylvia and Overeem would be much too small to give Lesnar any kind of trouble, he'd bull rush them both, ride them, and oafishly bludgeon them both to ref Tko as well. Probably same for Arlovski too, Brock has at least 30 lbs advantage on him too. I don't even know if Fedor is big enough but my $'s on him anyway, predicting he'd step within range quickly and score the KO, like he somehow always does. If you can stuff the takedown/bull rush long enough to slip inside you can score on his huge, fat head.
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It was mark coleman that also wrestled at OSU. I agree with sev about the ufc giving brock good match ups for his style and skillset at the moment. I think he would have some trouble if they put him with a good striker/kickboxer who can peppper him up a little bit from the outside. I think that now is the time to beat lesnar. After he gets some more fighting experience and steps up his stand up game he is gonna be a monster.
Great post sev. I agree 100% about everything you pointed out about the ufc's organization especially the way the treat the fighters. Frank Mir has been around the ufc for a long time and for headlining ufc 100 he got payed either 40k or 45k i don't remember exactly. Lesnar made 400k. There really needs to be some competing organizations.
Frank Mir has been around the ufc for a long time and for headlining ufc 100 he got payed either 40k or 45k i don't remember exactly. Lesnar made 400k. There really needs to be some competing organizations.
I've seen it printed several places that Lesnar made over 3M for that fight, which makes it even worse. Mir seriously needs to promote himself better if that's really all he made. For UFC 100 I find that hard to believe and haven't heard of pay that low for fighters in a while, much less for the main event.
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It was a good card; Lister Jr and I watched it again last night. Lesnar is a complete jerk / showman and I will assure you that Fedor will kick the living crap out of him
GSP is simply incredible
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Sumo vs Bruce Lee was cool back in the mid-90's of UFC but they are currently attempting to evolve the sport beyond the brawling beasts who can dominate simply due to immense size alone.
I'd love to see a 240lb-ish weight class put in there. That would allow skilled fighters like Cro-Cop and Mir to fluorish while matching Lesnar up against much more suitable opponents.
Mir suffered the same fate as BJ Penn when he challenged GSP...just a little too small for the elite level that now exists in the upper-echelons. BJ could probably mop most of the rest of the welterweight division but with these guys weighing in the day before the fight and cutting 10, 20, even 30 pounds or more in cases there is a limit to how much size skill can overcome.
Btw, anybody want a good link so they don't have to buy?
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lesner is an absolutely horrible fighter. he barely has any skill at all. his game is just to use his brute strength and beat the hell out of the guy. if he ever meets a guy around his weight that can actually fight he will get his ass kicked.
he definitely used steroids at one time although i don't think he is now. you would have to be an idiot to do roids in any sport this day in age. the fact is, without his chemically induced size, he is nothing.
He's not and never has been on roids. The NCAA tests, UFC tests, he's been that big since like 11th grade.
AdaM said:
He's not and never has been on roids. The NCAA tests, UFC tests, he's been that big since like 11th grade.how about the wwe? vince mcmahon spoon feeds those guys roids
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AdaM said:
He's not and never has been on roids. The NCAA tests, UFC tests, he's been that big since like 11th grade.how about the wwe? vince mcmahon spoon feeds those guys roids
how about the wwe? vince mcmahon spoon feeds those guys roids
Well considering he looks the same Pre WWE as post, what's your point?
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how about the wwe? vince mcmahon spoon feeds those guys roids
Well considering he looks the same Pre WWE as post, what's your point?
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