KITCHENS NEW HEAD COACH
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I've said multiple times before that I hoped the Browns would hire the right guy, and simply not the most well known guy...... Well, part 2 done < I see you there McCarthy and Arians > and now it's up to Freddie to prove he is part 1.
I can't wait to see the coaches he surrounds himself with.
I've said multiple times before that I hoped the Browns would hire the right guy, and simply not the most well known guy...... Well, part 2 done < I see you there McCarthy and Arians > and now it's up to Freddie to prove he is part 1.
I can't wait to see the coaches he surrounds himself with.
I really didn’t want another NFL retread, ya know? Although I would’ve been completely fine with Arians and Kitchens as the OC, from what I hear it’s unlikely we would have been ABLE to keep Kitchens as a coordinator, as other NFL teams would’ve likely interviewed him for head coaching opportunities. NFL teams are transitioning from hiring coaching retreads to finding the next “young offensive mind”. I want to say that virtually all of the hirings so far have been largely offensive guys, and I don’t see that trend changing any time soon.
People might remember the trick plays that Freddie implemented because some of them worked very well and they were splattered all over the highlight networks, but the only stat you really need to know about Freddie’s offense is that the Browns lead the league with the fewest number of QB hits allowed during the last 8 games, and it wasn’t even CLOSE. I’m not talking about sacks, I’m talking about just getting “hit”. Many of you already know this stat because it’s been posted in other threads, but during the last 8 games of the season, Baker Mayfield was only hit 9 times. The next closest team on the list surrendered 29 hits. Think about that disparity for a moment.
Now obviously Freddie Kitchens isn’t the ONLY factor in this mind-blowing statistic, but when he was given OC duties, he inherited the exact same players that Todd Haley had. We remember the “trick plays” and the unusual formations, but does everyone remember the variations of max-protect Kitchens used? I have never seen an OC use more varieties of max-protect, and then have the confidence to send out only two WR’s. If you want an example, take a look at the first play against Carolina. I think we sent out Landry and Perriman deep and basically kept most everyone else in to block. Baker had a GIANT pocket, and Perriman beat his man deep.
Freddie took a look at what Baker did well, and he leaned on that instead of trying to force the kid out of his comfort zone. To me, that’s what a good coach does, and he evaluates the talent at his disposal, and puts them into position to win. Even the last drive of our season against Baltimore, Kitchens put us in position to win. Heck, we COULD’VE won the game if we had a kicker that could hit from 56 yards, but on those last four plays, we had the look we wanted on three of them, and Baker just simply didn’t make the plays. Baker underthrew the first pass to Njoku by about a foot, and the defender blindly knocked it down. Baker almost always makes that throw to Njoku, he just came up a bit short. Then he had Landry open on the out pattern, but he left it inside by about two feet, and that was the throw that Baker said will haunt him for a long time. Again, it’s a throw we’re totally used to him making. The one that is likely still making him vomit is the 3rd down play (I think). Baker knew the pressure was coming and basically had to choose one side of the field to look at, and he chose the wrong side. Had he looked left, he could’ve hit Duke Johnson for a probable touchdown, and a 30 yard gain at minimum. Weddle blitzed HARD and timed the snap count perfectly. He thought Duke was blocking, but Duke slipped out as a receiver. Weddle knew he was beat and GRABBED Duke Johnson, but Duke ripped free and was so wide open that it’s still hard to watch. To be honest, I really don’t know how the refs didn’t call the holding penalty. I’m guessing it’s because Baker wasn’t even looking, but they called a similar penalty against us (Peppers) on a 3rd down when Lamar threw to someone else. Seriously, go back and watch it. I’m not exaggerating.
I’m excited to have a first time NFL coach, and I’m further excited that my young QB doesn’t have to learn a new system or new language. Instead of trying to learn all the new jargon and concepts, Baker can now work to MASTER what he already knows. That’s such a huge advantage, and you already know Baker is going to have his receivers meeting up with him in the offseason so they can get some work in together. I thought Njoku kind of had an up and down season, but he rectified the issue he had with drops, and he finished very strong. He’s also like 22 years old (if that). I’d be surprised if he didn’t take a giant leap next year in both yards and touchdowns. In just one year Njoku’s blocking increased dramatically, and he might turn into a dominant force for us.
The final thing about Kitchens that made me think we HAD to keep him was the red zone production. Depending on what metric used, the Browns finished in the top five in red zone scoring, and that’s just incredible when you think about having a rookie QB. Obviously Baker deserves a BUNCH of this credit, but Kitchens has to share in this because he just seemed to have a feel for what to do. Do I even need to tell you guys to look at our red zone offense last year? Yeesh.
It's time to be excited, boys. Heck, it’s PAST time to be excited. I’m not saying we’re going to the freaking Super Bowl or anything like that, but it’s safe to say that we’re actually going to challenge for the AFC North, and that’s the first time in a LONG time I could say THAT.
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Still nothing about Kitchens officially.
I can confirm I have one
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Still nothing about Kitchens officially.
I can confirm I have one
I can confirm I have one
I don’t see any HP sauce on the side here, can’t be an Englishman’s kitchen
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I like mine better
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Here's my barbeque:
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Here's my barbeque:
Here's my barbeque:
Jim Bob would approve.
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I've said multiple times before that I hoped the Browns would hire the right guy, and simply not the most well known guy...... Well, part 2 done < I see you there McCarthy and Arians > and now it's up to Freddie to prove he is part 1.
I can't wait to see the coaches he surrounds himself with.
I really didn’t want another NFL retread, ya know? Although I would’ve been completely fine with Arians and Kitchens as the OC, from what I hear it’s unlikely we would have been ABLE to keep Kitchens as a coordinator, as other NFL teams would’ve likely interviewed him for head coaching opportunities. NFL teams are transitioning from hiring coaching retreads to finding the next “young offensive mind”. I want to say that virtually all of the hirings so far have been largely offensive guys, and I don’t see that trend changing any time soon.
People might remember the trick plays that Freddie implemented because some of them worked very well and they were splattered all over the highlight networks, but the only stat you really need to know about Freddie’s offense is that the Browns lead the league with the fewest number of QB hits allowed during the last 8 games, and it wasn’t even CLOSE. I’m not talking about sacks, I’m talking about just getting “hit”. Many of you already know this stat because it’s been posted in other threads, but during the last 8 games of the season, Baker Mayfield was only hit 9 times. The next closest team on the list surrendered 29 hits. Think about that disparity for a moment.
Now obviously Freddie Kitchens isn’t the ONLY factor in this mind-blowing statistic, but when he was given OC duties, he inherited the exact same players that Todd Haley had. We remember the “trick plays” and the unusual formations, but does everyone remember the variations of max-protect Kitchens used? I have never seen an OC use more varieties of max-protect, and then have the confidence to send out only two WR’s. If you want an example, take a look at the first play against Carolina. I think we sent out Landry and Perriman deep and basically kept most everyone else in to block. Baker had a GIANT pocket, and Perriman beat his man deep.
Freddie took a look at what Baker did well, and he leaned on that instead of trying to force the kid out of his comfort zone. To me, that’s what a good coach does, and he evaluates the talent at his disposal, and puts them into position to win. Even the last drive of our season against Baltimore, Kitchens put us in position to win. Heck, we COULD’VE won the game if we had a kicker that could hit from 56 yards, but on those last four plays, we had the look we wanted on three of them, and Baker just simply didn’t make the plays. Baker underthrew the first pass to Njoku by about a foot, and the defender blindly knocked it down. Baker almost always makes that throw to Njoku, he just came up a bit short. Then he had Landry open on the out pattern, but he left it inside by about two feet, and that was the throw that Baker said will haunt him for a long time. Again, it’s a throw we’re totally used to him making. The one that is likely still making him vomit is the 3rd down play (I think). Baker knew the pressure was coming and basically had to choose one side of the field to look at, and he chose the wrong side. Had he looked left, he could’ve hit Duke Johnson for a probable touchdown, and a 30 yard gain at minimum. Weddle blitzed HARD and timed the snap count perfectly. He thought Duke was blocking, but Duke slipped out as a receiver. Weddle knew he was beat and GRABBED Duke Johnson, but Duke ripped free and was so wide open that it’s still hard to watch. To be honest, I really don’t know how the refs didn’t call the holding penalty. I’m guessing it’s because Baker wasn’t even looking, but they called a similar penalty against us (Peppers) on a 3rd down when Lamar threw to someone else. Seriously, go back and watch it. I’m not exaggerating.
I’m excited to have a first time NFL coach, and I’m further excited that my young QB doesn’t have to learn a new system or new language. Instead of trying to learn all the new jargon and concepts, Baker can now work to MASTER what he already knows. That’s such a huge advantage, and you already know Baker is going to have his receivers meeting up with him in the offseason so they can get some work in together. I thought Njoku kind of had an up and down season, but he rectified the issue he had with drops, and he finished very strong. He’s also like 22 years old (if that). I’d be surprised if he didn’t take a giant leap next year in both yards and touchdowns. In just one year Njoku’s blocking increased dramatically, and he might turn into a dominant force for us.
The final thing about Kitchens that made me think we HAD to keep him was the red zone production. Depending on what metric used, the Browns finished in the top five in red zone scoring, and that’s just incredible when you think about having a rookie QB. Obviously Baker deserves a BUNCH of this credit, but Kitchens has to share in this because he just seemed to have a feel for what to do. Do I even need to tell you guys to look at our red zone offense last year? Yeesh.
It's time to be excited, boys. Heck, it’s PAST time to be excited. I’m not saying we’re going to the freaking Super Bowl or anything like that, but it’s safe to say that we’re actually going to challenge for the AFC North, and that’s the first time in a LONG time I could say THAT.
I really didn’t want another NFL retread, ya know? Although I would’ve been completely fine with Arians and Kitchens as the OC, from what I hear it’s unlikely we would have been ABLE to keep Kitchens as a coordinator, as other NFL teams would’ve likely interviewed him for head coaching opportunities. NFL teams are transitioning from hiring coaching retreads to finding the next “young offensive mind”. I want to say that virtually all of the hirings so far have been largely offensive guys, and I don’t see that trend changing any time soon.
People might remember the trick plays that Freddie implemented because some of them worked very well and they were splattered all over the highlight networks, but the only stat you really need to know about Freddie’s offense is that the Browns lead the league with the fewest number of QB hits allowed during the last 8 games, and it wasn’t even CLOSE. I’m not talking about sacks, I’m talking about just getting “hit”. Many of you already know this stat because it’s been posted in other threads, but during the last 8 games of the season, Baker Mayfield was only hit 9 times. The next closest team on the list surrendered 29 hits. Think about that disparity for a moment.
Now obviously Freddie Kitchens isn’t the ONLY factor in this mind-blowing statistic, but when he was given OC duties, he inherited the exact same players that Todd Haley had. We remember the “trick plays” and the unusual formations, but does everyone remember the variations of max-protect Kitchens used? I have never seen an OC use more varieties of max-protect, and then have the confidence to send out only two WR’s. If you want an example, take a look at the first play against Carolina. I think we sent out Landry and Perriman deep and basically kept most everyone else in to block. Baker had a GIANT pocket, and Perriman beat his man deep.
Freddie took a look at what Baker did well, and he leaned on that instead of trying to force the kid out of his comfort zone. To me, that’s what a good coach does, and he evaluates the talent at his disposal, and puts them into position to win. Even the last drive of our season against Baltimore, Kitchens put us in position to win. Heck, we COULD’VE won the game if we had a kicker that could hit from 56 yards, but on those last four plays, we had the look we wanted on three of them, and Baker just simply didn’t make the plays. Baker underthrew the first pass to Njoku by about a foot, and the defender blindly knocked it down. Baker almost always makes that throw to Njoku, he just came up a bit short. Then he had Landry open on the out pattern, but he left it inside by about two feet, and that was the throw that Baker said will haunt him for a long time. Again, it’s a throw we’re totally used to him making. The one that is likely still making him vomit is the 3rd down play (I think). Baker knew the pressure was coming and basically had to choose one side of the field to look at, and he chose the wrong side. Had he looked left, he could’ve hit Duke Johnson for a probable touchdown, and a 30 yard gain at minimum. Weddle blitzed HARD and timed the snap count perfectly. He thought Duke was blocking, but Duke slipped out as a receiver. Weddle knew he was beat and GRABBED Duke Johnson, but Duke ripped free and was so wide open that it’s still hard to watch. To be honest, I really don’t know how the refs didn’t call the holding penalty. I’m guessing it’s because Baker wasn’t even looking, but they called a similar penalty against us (Peppers) on a 3rd down when Lamar threw to someone else. Seriously, go back and watch it. I’m not exaggerating.
I’m excited to have a first time NFL coach, and I’m further excited that my young QB doesn’t have to learn a new system or new language. Instead of trying to learn all the new jargon and concepts, Baker can now work to MASTER what he already knows. That’s such a huge advantage, and you already know Baker is going to have his receivers meeting up with him in the offseason so they can get some work in together. I thought Njoku kind of had an up and down season, but he rectified the issue he had with drops, and he finished very strong. He’s also like 22 years old (if that). I’d be surprised if he didn’t take a giant leap next year in both yards and touchdowns. In just one year Njoku’s blocking increased dramatically, and he might turn into a dominant force for us.
The final thing about Kitchens that made me think we HAD to keep him was the red zone production. Depending on what metric used, the Browns finished in the top five in red zone scoring, and that’s just incredible when you think about having a rookie QB. Obviously Baker deserves a BUNCH of this credit, but Kitchens has to share in this because he just seemed to have a feel for what to do. Do I even need to tell you guys to look at our red zone offense last year? Yeesh.
It's time to be excited, boys. Heck, it’s PAST time to be excited. I’m not saying we’re going to the freaking Super Bowl or anything like that, but it’s safe to say that we’re actually going to challenge for the AFC North, and that’s the first time in a LONG time I could say THAT.
Well, Freddie's not the only one who's going max protect and sending out only two wrs. There was a Bucky Brooks article on NFL.com- Frank Reich is doing the same thing in Indy to keep Andrew Luck in one piece.
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Here's my barbeque:
Here's my barbeque:
Stick a 'Merican flag on it and it gets my seal of approval. What the hell did I pay Home Depot for when I coulda jus' kept on walkin' with a cart.?
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I trust Dorsey's instincts way more than I do DePo's "analytics". If it came down to Baker's choice I think & hope he made the right one. Freddie is a known quantity- the other guy- not so much. and his play calling with the Vikings was sort of underwhelming...
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Seems Haslam listened this time ...
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Still nothing about Kitchens officially.
Still nothing about Kitchens officially.
Presser will be Monday. The hold up on the official announcement was due to ironing out contract details. No time given yet but sounds pretty sure of the day
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Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet 9m9 minutes ago
Ian Rapoport@RapSheetAt long last, after three days of work, the #Browns and Freddie Kitchens are close on a deal to solidify his hire as the next head coach, source said. While they’ve worked to hire coaches, their biggest hire hasn’t been announced, but it all should be done soon.MoreAt long last, after three days of work, the
#Browns and Freddie Kitchens are close on a deal to solidify his hire as the next head coach, source said. While they’ve worked to hire coaches, their biggest hire hasn’t been announced, but it all should be done soon. -
Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet 9m9 minutes agoIan Rapoport@RapSheetAt long last, after three days of work, the #Browns and Freddie Kitchens are close on a deal to solidify his hire as the next head coach, source said. While they’ve worked to hire coaches, their biggest hire hasn’t been announced, but it all should be done soon.More
At long last, after three days of work, the
#Browns and Freddie Kitchens are close on a deal to solidify his hire as the next head coach, source said. While they’ve worked to hire coaches, their biggest hire hasn’t been announced, but it all should be done soon.At long last, after three days of work, the
#Browns and Freddie Kitchens are close on a deal to solidify his hire as the next head coach, source said. While they’ve worked to hire coaches, their biggest hire hasn’t been announced, but it all should be done soon.If what I saw (courtesy of London) on @ Browns on Twitter was correct, Freddie signed his contract. Been hearing his agent is a Drew Rosenhaus type, that apparently was the hangup on the presser.
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https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/freddie-kitchens-named-browns-head-coach
...finally. Onward & Upward.
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https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/freddie-kitchens-named-browns-head-coach
...finally. Onward & Upward.
https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/freddie-kitchens-named-browns-head-coach
...finally. Onward & Upward.
that didn't take long....
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click here on browns sbnation twitter feed https://www.sbnation.com/2019/1/9/18175307/browns-head-coach-freddie-kitchens-baker-mayfield "Let's Roll" good enough for we..Congrats Freddie his wife Ginger & his 2 daughters that love that Hoodie..
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So now it's disagree politely and get a week off? Jesus...
Tour, it's one thing to disagree politely. But to disagree from a POV that's totally outlandish is another. Yeah, we don't have a crystal ball to predict the 2019 season- but to say you like every other 1st round QB- and maybe even a third stringer like Mason Rudolph better than Mayfield is living in a fantasy world, and you know it.
I saw it as borderline flamebaiting, and apparently the rest of the guys agreed. Zombo's kicked folks like that off after a post or two. Oh, and he really digs Collin Cowherd? Well, it takes all kinds but.
I see very little difference in what he's posting between that and the departed Ghoolie's spew "Art Modell is a great Man" & "the Ravens are the real Browns." Just to piss people off- to get a response. It may not be intentional, and he may really believe that- but if he does he needs serious psychiatric help. And sorry it's so freaking dumb it is pissing people off.
Tour, it's one thing to disagree politely. But to disagree from a POV that's totally outlandish is another. Yeah, we don't have a crystal ball to predict the 2019 season- but to say you like every other 1st round QB- and maybe even a third stringer like Mason Rudolph better than Mayfield is living in a fantasy world, and you know it.
Well... since I agreed with his take, where's my ban?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Tour, it's one thing to disagree politely. But to disagree from a POV that's totally outlandish is another. Yeah, we don't have a crystal ball to predict the 2019 season- but to say you like every other 1st round QB- and maybe even a third stringer like Mason Rudolph better than Mayfield is living in a fantasy world, and you know it.
Well... since I agreed with his take, where's my ban?
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Tour, it's one thing to disagree politely. But to disagree from a POV that's totally outlandish is another. Yeah, we don't have a crystal ball to predict the 2019 season- but to say you like every other 1st round QB- and maybe even a third stringer like Mason Rudolph better than Mayfield is living in a fantasy world, and you know it.
Well... since I agreed with his take, where's my ban?
Well... since I agreed with his take, where's my ban?
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